Epistane doesn't work !!
- 06-09-2010, 11:47 PM
- 06-10-2010, 12:17 AM
You're body is in an anabolic state atm, but you aren't feeding it enough to grow. Wasted Epi IMO
- 06-10-2010, 10:16 AM
You can't expect your body to grow if you're not feeding it anything for the Epistane to work with. It's not labeled as a "fat burner". Get your diet up to par and Epi at the right doses and you will see results.
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06-10-2010, 01:15 PM
I have researched a lot before to start and most of the people says for a first cycle don't go over 40 mg per day.. even on the IBE website for an hardcore cycle the dosage is 40 mg per day, I'M at 50 mg per day and losing strenght when i didn't take EPISTANE and worser diet I WAS still gaining strenght..
If the Epistane worked, i should have any side, but the only side i had till now are a little better libido and from last night a little of pain on my nipple..
These are facts, and YOU should have read better before saying something..
One more thing, you're an IBE rep, thank you for erase my thread from your forum after i gave you the Lot # ..
06-10-2010, 11:06 PM
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06-11-2010, 09:45 AM
06-12-2010, 11:01 PM
good luck bro..really hope it does something...i've got two more weeks left on my epi cycle and i have to admit that the gains have been less than stelar..decent strength gains..but size wise..nothing to write home about yet. i am hoping the remaining two weeks will add a bit more lean mass...
06-15-2010, 05:12 PM
Today i upped the dose to 60 mg..
Review till now :
I think Epistane is a weak steroid, and need to be dosed around between 40 and 60 mg or higher ( depend on cycle's experience and sides )..
It needs higher calories to be efective so if you're after a cut or a recomposition i wouldn't waste the money and i would go at least for a lean bulk or a bulk ( but i think there are better ph or ds out there for these goals )
Sides till now :
Lost of strenght, yes sadly true :-( , small headaches ( just add water and hawthorn berry ) from yesterday light back pump, lethargy ! ( sometime bad ! )
I don't wanna insert the better libido on the sides ! ( very good week ends... )
Let's see the last 10 days at 60 mg
06-15-2010, 06:50 PM
Well that's you experience with it...Many, many other people say otherwise and sup companies can't keep it stocked for very long because it always sells out. Maybe your next PS/DS cycle will treat you better...I personally love Epi and it's very very close to anavar, as far as strength gains with very little sides are concerned.
06-15-2010, 08:02 PM
Keep us updated on how your body reacts to a week at 60mg/day even if you still don't see a difference by the time the bottle is empty.
From reading tons of Epistane logs, I 've come to the conclusion that you really have to focus the most on your diet instead all of it on the way you train. Sure, you still have to lift very hard and get plenty of rest, but diet is what's really gonna take the PH to a whole different level.
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06-15-2010, 08:29 PM
06-15-2010, 08:37 PM
06-15-2010, 08:58 PM
I read of LOT of people having good results in adding lean muscle while losing fat and i've chosed to go whit epistane for all this reasons ( because i also have 1T and i was going for it but lot of people told me the epi was better for my goal )..
You talk as i'm the first moron here, but you don't know me.. I'm 30 years old and i train since i was 16.. here my stats : 184 cm, 92 kg deadlift 220 kg squat 190 kg bench 135 kg
This was the first time i took anabolics
Defenitely i spoke in my case and not in general as someone said before..
06-15-2010, 09:33 PM
Something is not right with your experience here. Even a slight calorie deficiency, you should at least see some strength gain even if minimal. The whole lot about lowering your calories causing you to lose strength while on cycle does hole merit however if you are slightly lowering calories, say 500-1000, then that should not be enough to KILL your strength gains.
There is a world of difference between losing some strength and KILLING YOUR STRENGTH GAINS and SIZE.
This, especially since you have HAD STRENGTH gains with less food and no steroidal compounds.
Either you are pulling everyone's leg, do not have a clue to what you are doing or you have a bunk batch, end of story.
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06-15-2010, 11:58 PM
hey chief...hows 60mg's treating ya?? i've managed to put on 40lbs on my flat bench over the course of this cycle...pretty good..got one more chest workout next week and then my cycle is over.
06-16-2010, 12:50 AM
I like IBE alot, and have alot of there products. But if this guy is a non-responder. Let him be that.
He isnt hating, he is giving feedback. That IMO, is his right.
There are non-responders to all compounds, even test. Unreal machine for instance.
Again Judd, sorry epistane didnt do it for you. Almost all reviews are very good. Especially dosed at 30-50mg ED.
Good lifts btw.
06-16-2010, 01:12 AM
06-16-2010, 09:32 AM
I upped the calories since day 17th more or less..
I'm defenitely ABOVE maintenance and still losing strenght..
How can someone explain to pass from 34 kg x 6 to 27 kg x 8 in seatead dumbell shoulder press ( just for example ) ? I call it lost of strenght..
The sizes are good, maybe little bigger, but strenght really sucks !
I've checked my work out book and i saw i did this weight years ago..
06-16-2010, 09:36 AM
I've just started 60 mg yesterday.. today day off i'm not going to run this week because i wanna have more calories ABOVE maintenance this last days ( i'm thinking to go till 40 days )..
You lucky 40 lbs on bench, i'm losing strenght instead !
06-16-2010, 09:42 AM
One more thing for everyone..
I'M NOT saying Epistane doesn't work for everyone ( lot of logs say it works well ), i'm just writing my experience on it..
No offence for anybody.. I apreciate every single opinion here in this thread just because i like to hear everyone's opinion..
I'm not making fun of anyone anyway, maybe sometime my english is not very good i'm sorry for that..
06-16-2010, 12:18 PM
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06-16-2010, 11:19 PM
06-17-2010, 11:18 AM
06-18-2010, 10:29 AM
Well just like all compounds you will have some people that respond great and others who don't respond to well. We are sorry that this compound did not work for you, BUT has worked for many others.
I personally have great strength gains from Epi, but mild weight gains...However my years of lifting have taught me to focus on the mirror and not the scale.
Anyhow good luck in the future man.
06-18-2010, 01:20 PM
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