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    Originally Posted by thestein1016 View Post
    I was in such a rush, i just through the packet of soup in a blender bottle, added the water and jugged.
    Wasnt that bad!!!
    What?!? Wasn't that bad? OMG that was worse than opening my mouth while swimming in the Atlantic Ocean.
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    Originally Posted by thestein1016
    I was in such a rush, i just through the packet of soup in a blender bottle, added the water and jugged.
    Wasnt that bad!!!
    Cold or hot water
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    Hey, just wanted to say thanks to criticalbench, I gave this a try and it worked awesome! Thanks for the tip!

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    I am writing this because I secretly discovered a trick to making my hemavol
    better, not that it isn't good enough, but because we are always looking for
    something better! I know feel obligated to help others and expose my trick
    that I have used prior to training, and prior to stepping on stage for a show;
    a little more personally modified for the on stage application, but you get
    the point.

    INGREDIENTS
    2 Scoops Protein
    1 Tbsp Canolda Oil
    5-10g Creatine Monohydrate
    200mg R-ala (Can use ALA or NA-RALA depending on your preference)
    1 Pack Lipton Chicken Noodle Soup (40g Carbs, 1g Sodium) with 2 cups water
    2 Scoops or 10 tabs hemavol with 16oz water
    20g sugar Candy (Sweet tarts, nerds, cotton candy, sour patches, etc)


    HOW I DO IT

    1 Hour Pre-Workout
    -2 Scoops Protein Powder with 1tbsp Canola Oil

    45 Minutes Pre-Workout
    -200mg NA-Rala

    30 Minutes Pre-Workout
    -1 Packet Lipton soup with 2 cups water
    -2 Scoops hemavol with 16oz water
    -5-10 (I use 10) grams of creatine mono mixed with hemavol

    5 minutes Pre-Workout
    -20g sugar from Candy (I use sweet tarts, a handful of em or cotton candy.
    My training partner uses nerds, just any pure sugar, no fat candy)


    No science backing this, just personal experience. The sodium in the soup
    with the 10g of creatine mono and hemavol with 32oz of water total really
    helps bring out the fullness and vascularity by way of water retention
    and with the carbohydrate supersaturation with the R-ala. R-ala is also known
    to make creatine monohydrate work much better. The rush from the sugar I feel
    brings out the pop in the veins. The rest brings the fullness, but the end
    with sugars brings the pop IMO. To me, this is a cheap addition that makes
    pre-workout with out without hemavol a hell of a lot better. I have
    personally been doing this for a year now since discovering it, used it
    pre-contest for the 2011 NPC Pittsburgh Championships and had an explosion of
    veins in my body. I notice a drastic difference from when I use this, to when
    I don't. Many times I use it without hemavol and it is good, but with
    hemavol, it is CRAZY!

    You can manipulation the protein/fat intake however you want, that is what I
    choose pre-workout as it sits with me best. I have a stomach disorder that
    allows food to sit and pool in my stomach for much longer than the average
    person, so whole foods just sit there and will make me feel sick during a
    workout.

    I apologize in advance if you try this and it doesn't work. We are all
    different, what works for me may not work for you. I am just sharing this
    because this has been one of the greatest discoveries for me since I started
    bodybuilding.


    ****NO CLUE WHY M COMPUTER TYPED IT WITHOUT IT GOING ACROSS THE WHOLE LINE!?!
    [/QUOTE]

    Couple Questions:

    -How much water is in this total between the protein powder, hemavol, and the water for the soup/and you don't feel like the extra water affects subQ water for competitions? Or do you plan it into to your total water intake for contest day?

    -Would any carb intake suffice to be substituted for the soup to go along with the salt? Say 40g of carbs worth of white potatoes along with the gram of salt?

    Thanks for sharing a very unique and promising trick!

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    Originally Posted by uvawahoowa View Post
    I am writing this because I secretly discovered a trick to making my hemavol
    better, not that it isn't good enough, but because we are always looking for
    something better! I know feel obligated to help others and expose my trick
    that I have used prior to training, and prior to stepping on stage for a show;
    a little more personally modified for the on stage application, but you get
    the point.

    INGREDIENTS
    2 Scoops Protein
    1 Tbsp Canolda Oil
    5-10g Creatine Monohydrate
    200mg R-ala (Can use ALA or NA-RALA depending on your preference)
    1 Pack Lipton Chicken Noodle Soup (40g Carbs, 1g Sodium) with 2 cups water
    2 Scoops or 10 tabs hemavol with 16oz water
    20g sugar Candy (Sweet tarts, nerds, cotton candy, sour patches, etc)


    HOW I DO IT

    1 Hour Pre-Workout
    -2 Scoops Protein Powder with 1tbsp Canola Oil

    45 Minutes Pre-Workout
    -200mg NA-Rala

    30 Minutes Pre-Workout
    -1 Packet Lipton soup with 2 cups water
    -2 Scoops hemavol with 16oz water
    -5-10 (I use 10) grams of creatine mono mixed with hemavol

    5 minutes Pre-Workout
    -20g sugar from Candy (I use sweet tarts, a handful of em or cotton candy.
    My training partner uses nerds, just any pure sugar, no fat candy)


    No science backing this, just personal experience. The sodium in the soup
    with the 10g of creatine mono and hemavol with 32oz of water total really
    helps bring out the fullness and vascularity by way of water retention
    and with the carbohydrate supersaturation with the R-ala. R-ala is also known
    to make creatine monohydrate work much better. The rush from the sugar I feel
    brings out the pop in the veins. The rest brings the fullness, but the end
    with sugars brings the pop IMO. To me, this is a cheap addition that makes
    pre-workout with out without hemavol a hell of a lot better. I have
    personally been doing this for a year now since discovering it, used it
    pre-contest for the 2011 NPC Pittsburgh Championships and had an explosion of
    veins in my body. I notice a drastic difference from when I use this, to when
    I don't. Many times I use it without hemavol and it is good, but with
    hemavol, it is CRAZY!

    You can manipulation the protein/fat intake however you want, that is what I
    choose pre-workout as it sits with me best. I have a stomach disorder that
    allows food to sit and pool in my stomach for much longer than the average
    person, so whole foods just sit there and will make me feel sick during a
    workout.

    I apologize in advance if you try this and it doesn't work. We are all
    different, what works for me may not work for you. I am just sharing this
    because this has been one of the greatest discoveries for me since I started
    bodybuilding.


    ****NO CLUE WHY M COMPUTER TYPED IT WITHOUT IT GOING ACROSS THE WHOLE LINE!?!
    Couple Questions:

    -How much water is in this total between the protein powder, hemavol, and the water for the soup/and you don't feel like the extra water affects subQ water for competitions? Or do you plan it into to your total water intake for contest day?

    -Would any carb intake suffice to be substituted for the soup to go along with the salt? Say 40g of carbs worth of white potatoes along with the gram of salt?

    Thanks for sharing a very unique and promising trick![/QUOTE]

    Are you trying to use this for pre-contest? If so, I change a few things. I really don't drink any extra water besides 12oz right when I wake up. Between the protein, soup, hemavol, i get enough water I think. No issues with water retention.

    Mike
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  6.  05-18-2012  09:26 AM
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    Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Couple Questions:

    -How much water is in this total between the protein powder, hemavol, and the water for the soup/and you don't feel like the extra water affects subQ water for competitions? Or do you plan it into to your total water intake for contest day?

    -Would any carb intake suffice to be substituted for the soup to go along with the salt? Say 40g of carbs worth of white potatoes along with the gram of salt?

    Thanks for sharing a very unique and promising trick!
    Are you trying to use this for pre-contest? If so, I change a few things. I really don't drink any extra water besides 12oz right when I wake up. Between the protein, soup, hemavol, i get enough water I think. No issues with water retention.

    Mike[/QUOTE]

    Yes, going to try for a contest in June. I have one this weekend, but no hemavol to work with and I haven't given it a test run so I can't do it 100%, but I'm going to try and work it in in some capacity tomorrow. Going to try it w: 200mg na-r-ala & 5g creatine 45 mins prior; .5g sodium, 2g agmatine, 50ml veg glycerin, 4oz red wine, 8oz water 30 mins prior (typically do the red wine/glycerin anyways); 20g sugar (nerds) 5 minutes prior. Thoughts?

    But that's maybe 48oz water total for the way you normally do it for prejudging (16oz each for hemavol, protein, & soup)?

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    Originally Posted by uvawahoowa View Post
    Are you trying to use this for pre-contest? If so, I change a few things. I really don't drink any extra water besides 12oz right when I wake up. Between the protein, soup, hemavol, i get enough water I think. No issues with water retention.

    Mike
    Yes, going to try for a contest in June. I have one this weekend, but no hemavol to work with and I haven't given it a test run so I can't do it 100%, but I'm going to try and work it in in some capacity tomorrow. Going to try it w: 200mg na-r-ala & 5g creatine 45 mins prior; .5g sodium, 2g agmatine, 50ml veg glycerin, 4oz red wine, 8oz water 30 mins prior (typically do the red wine/glycerin anyways); 20g sugar (nerds) 5 minutes prior. Thoughts?

    But that's maybe 48oz water total for the way you normally do it for prejudging (16oz each for hemavol, protein, & soup)?[/QUOTE]

    Doing this for pre-judging is hard, and honestly you have to play it by ear. You don't want to drink more, if you are already full. You may need to drink more, or eat more salt, if you are still flat. I don't know how you load, so it is hard to say.

    Are you a **** loaded, a slow loaded? Do you salt load?

    I would avoid glycerin if using hemavol.. I would not do both. 500mg of salt, is very very low. For a show, I use 2+ grams min. R-ala, if you are eating carbs with it as i am sure you are, I'd bump the dose to 400-500mg. Pre judging is a whole different story than pre-workout.

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    Bumping this for new people.. i have gotten a ton of PM's from people saying how well this worked, want to help out the most people I can!
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    UPDATE

    Just so you guys are aware, I have updated a few things, the basic concept is the same, just changed a few food choices and such, that I use, which I will post up soon how I have augmented this plan. The current setup though, works just fine

    I am also open to hearing what specific carb, candy choices you guys have chosen!

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    I like using lemonheads :-)!

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    Epic thread Mike, thank you!!!


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    Originally Posted by StackedCop View Post
    Epic thread Mike, thank you!!!

    yea yea.. anytime
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    Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    yea yea.. anytime
    Yes Mike, Thank You
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    Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    Yes Mike, Thank You


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    Trying a version of this.

    (did it with stuff on hand)

    1 g Sea Salt
    1 scoop Jacked Micro
    1 cup juice (18g Carbs)
    1 cup water
    1 scoop bcaas
    5 g creatine
    1 pill astravar sample from TSN

    Mind you I also had my preworkout meal 2 hours ago, (90 carbs)

    Will post results

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    I can give the salt a try but the rest is just too much work!
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    I had the best pump of my life... No joke

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    Originally Posted by bmftisftw
    I had the best pump of my life... No joke
    Haha your protocol was very different then mine but glad it set you up!
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    Originally Posted by kingjameskjf
    I can give the salt a try but the rest is just too much work!
    Salt and candy bro
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    Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Salt and candy bro
    Much easier, I can do that!
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