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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Lol what do they have to do with each other? One is a great cortisol control , stim enhancer and sleep aid...and the other is a good GDA...Relationship pweze?
    In addition to Cortisol control, Ergobolic contains Bitter Melon extract which I believe is one of the ingredients that does what Coop was saying:

    "There are ingredients that can preferentially enhance muscle insulin sensitivity while not affecting insulin sensitivity of adipocytes; however, they are not in SSv2."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Lol man don't have that attitude . There are ingredients that can preferentially enhance muscle insulin sensitivity while not affecting insulin sensitivity of adipocytes; however, they are not in SSv2.
    Those ingredients are? Berberine and bitter melon? HCA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa View Post
    Those ingredients are? Berberine and bitter melon? HCA?
    No, no, no.Culture evidence is not sufficient with those compounds given pharmacodynamic issues (i.e. berberine). Here is one example:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20522594
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post
    Thoughts on using SSv2 (or any GDA for the matter) post workout? I have heard a mixed response to whether it is a waste to use or not (assuming you are already planning on having a carb meal post workout)
    Post work out insulin sensitivity is already on a favorable state. That's the main reason not using it post work out. Save it for another meal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I wouldn't do it personally. Based on Jiagulan (sp?)'s effects on glycogen loading, preworkout would be the best time to take SSv2. Plus, I'd like to keep my Na-R-ALA away from the periworkout period.
    Personally, I wouldn't either... I'm still not exactly sure why companies suggest using a GDA PWO, no matter the ingredients. And I'm also the same way when it comes to antioxidant dosing as far as timing is concerned. Then again, I really only use SS for general health to dampen my carb/gluten sensitivity, so I don't particularly use it around my training.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    IThe effects are generally not tissue-selective.
    Thank you! We were somewhat naive in our advertising of the skeletal muscle selectivity in our SSv1 marketing, but have since moved far away from that approach. While there is some evidence that banaba is selective, we can't and won't rely purely on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MM11 View Post
    Post work out insulin sensitivity is already on a favorable state. That's the main reason not using it post work out. Save it for another meal.
    Yup, never done post workout, have always done pre so will continue with that. I have seen of late several suggestions of using post with other GDAs which is why I asked


    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty77 View Post
    Personally, I wouldn't either... I'm still not exactly sure why companies suggest using a GDA PWO, no matter the ingredients. And I'm also the same way when it comes to antioxidant dosing as far as timing is concerned. Then again, I really only use SS for general health to dampen my carb/gluten sensitivity, so I don't particularly use it around my training.
    Regarding antioxidants, should you not be dosing too close to your workout? I usually have a carb meal + SSv2 about 30 minutes pre, but seems that you guys are suggesting to keep antioxidants away from the general workout window?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post
    Yup, never done post workout, have always done pre so will continue with that. I have seen of late several suggestions of using post with other GDAs which is why I asked
    And I don't quite understand their logic in suggesting that.

    Oh, well.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post
    Regarding antioxidants, should you not be dosing too close to your workout? I usually have a carb meal + SSv2 about 30 minutes pre, but seems that you guys are suggesting to keep antioxidants away from the general workout window?
    Pre-WO, it's not that big a deal; the benefits of the other ingredients will somewhat negate the concerns with the ALA... I find post- to be a crucial time, however, as it allows for some level of oxidative stress, which is actually beneficial to the body.
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    Question? Does any one dose it with a protein share filled with fruits? I'm curious to know. Because at times I have a shake with blueberries and bananas which are high in carbs. Ik it's supposed to be for complex carbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Question? Does any one dose it with a protein share filled with fruits? I'm curious to know. Because at times I have a shake with blueberries and bananas which are high in carbs. Ik it's supposed to be for complex carbs.
    I'm sure you'll get a mixed bag of answers, but, personally, I'd rather take a capsule before a lesser amount of CHO than others in here have mentioned. A banana is actually perfect for me because I find that I'm more energetic/alert after 20-50g. It's for any type of CHO, really. The formula is rather comprehensive in what it can accommodate.

    Comparatively, after higher amounts of CHO, I find that I'm still a little lethargic, but I'm not grouchy/itchy/asleep on the couch.
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    i will only say that last weekend i experimented with ssv2 for my supercomp. and used it in the same fasion i have used ssv1 in the past.
    every 4 hrs. noteworthy tho i start 2 hrs after the first carb up drink. wich is usually something quick like karbolyn/ waxy or dextrose depending on whats on hand. no problems were noted. so far so good with the new version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    i will only say that last weekend i experimented with ssv2 for my supercomp. and used it in the same fasion i have used ssv1 in the past.
    every 4 hrs. noteworthy tho i start 2 hrs after the first carb up drink. wich is usually something quick like karbolyn/ waxy or dextrose depending on whats on hand. no problems were noted. so far so good with the new version.
    Every 4 hours? Very interesting, what was your carb intake that day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    i will only say that last weekend i experimented with ssv2 for my supercomp. and used it in the same fasion i have used ssv1 in the past.
    every 4 hrs. noteworthy tho i start 2 hrs after the first carb up drink. wich is usually something quick like karbolyn/ waxy or dextrose depending on whats on hand. no problems were noted. so far so good with the new version.
    Thanks for the review. How many caps a day does your scheme put you at?
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    Any difference between slimsane and need2slin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1 View Post
    Any difference between slimsane and need2slin?
    There are few ingredients to overlap sedges NA R ALA and has the same L Norvaline dose. Slinsane has other ingredients that are much more specific to its purpose. it seems that need to Slinn is an all-around product aiming at recomp rather than specifically being a GDA. I am not sure why synephrine HCL is in there. Personally i wish it wasn't.

    Also slinsane and decimate is still cheaper and would be a much better profile in my opinion for a recount or cut

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    ^^great deal there
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    ^^great deal there
    Thanks, decimate + slinsane v2 itself is very effective in itself. Personally I was very impressed it exceeded my expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1 View Post
    Any difference between slimsane and need2slin?
    A lot:

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    You can see, firstly, that we elected to not include any type of stimulant (synephrine). Our banaba is a full-spectrum plant extract and not only the leaf. While the norvaline in N2S is double, you might scroll up and find a post by MrCooper citing that more isn't necessarily better with norvaline (though I'm sure he was alluding to amounts in excess of 200mg).

    In comparing evidence between jiaogulan and gymnema, we were also far more impressed with jiaogulan's overall benefits in relation to general health, far beyond a (and I've used this before) one-trick pony like gymnema. Had we elected to include ALCAR, it would most likely be at a more efficacious dose, and we entertained no intention on including a low dose of forskolin.

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    Actually that is 200 @ 2 caps. Ssv2 is a 1 cap dose @ 100. Both have 100mg per cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MM11 View Post
    Actually that is 200 @ 2 caps. Ssv2 is a 1 cap dose @ 100. Both have 60 caps per bottle. But ssv2 is a 1 cap dose.
    Good catch... Didn't even see that.

    So, comparatively, cap v. cap, there's less Na-R-ALA (SSv2 contains 100mg of ALA/capsule) and much less banaba (and that doesn't factor in a very minute amount of ALCAR).
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    I supplement with ALCAR @ 2g a day to put into retrospect the dosage. ALCAR is not very expensive. I love it for its Nootropic effects, but as a fat loss / recomp ingredient I personally would have gone PLCAR myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MM11
    I supplement with ALCAR @ 2g a day to put into retrospect the dosage. ALCAR is not very expensive. I love it for its Nootropic effects, but as a fat loss / recomp ingredient I personally would have gone PLCAR myself.
    Interesting as I find alcar better for fat loss personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Interesting as I find alcar better for fat loss personally.
    A L CAR makes my brain feel like it supercharged. I love it for what I use it for. it's just funny how different people can be I've never seen any effects of fat loss from it. Very interesting indeed.
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    plcar is one of my favorites but alcar is awesome for keto dieting.
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    ALCAR may exert fat loss effects through its intimate relationship with glycemic control, possibly via AMPK stimulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MM11

    A L CAR makes my brain feel like it supercharged. I love it for what I use it for. it's just funny how different people can be I've never seen any effects of fat loss from it. Very interesting indeed.
    I've actually used it and stacked it with decimate and enjoyed it. I think it helped results
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    ALCAR may exert fat loss effects through its intimate relationship with glycemic control, possibly via AMPK stimulation.
    Key word may. And can you break that down into more lamens terms? Are you saying its possible it has effects on blood sugar via AMPK?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MM11 View Post
    Key word may. And can you break that down into more lamens terms? Are you saying its possible it has effects on blood sugar via AMPK?
    "For instance, the first report showing the anti-diabetic effect of ALC was published by Giancaterini et al 10 years ago.79 On different days, 18 T2DM patients received both a primed-constant infusion of ALC (5 mg/kg body weight priming bolus and either 0.025, 0.1, or 1.0 mg/kg body weight/min constant infusion) and a comparable placebo formulation. Tissue glucose uptake was significantly increased by the administration of ALC, in a dose-dependent manner, and was related to increased glucose storage rather than increased glucose oxidation.79More recently, new data continue to point to the likely effectiveness of ALC administration in the clinical management of T2DM. Bloomer et al conducted a double-blind clinical trial in which pre-diabetic men and women (with fasting blood glucose: 100–125 mg/dL) were randomly assigned either 3 g/day of ALC or placebo for 8 weeks, resulting in slight improvements in fasting glucose, HbA1c and HOMA-IR after ALC treatment.80 Further, when ALC was administered chronically for 24 weeks to 36 non-diabetic patients (2 g/day) with insulin resistance and hypertension at increased risk of cardiovascular disease, the treatment resulted in an increased glucose disposal rate and improved glucose tolerance in ALC-treated patients. Additionally, higher values of glucose disposal rate were accompanied by higher decreases of systolic blood pressure.81 The results of this pilot study may provide the basis on which to set up randomized, double-blind clinical trials to formally test the effects of ALC compared with placebo on blood pressure and metabolic profile in T2DM and hypertensive patients."Source: Critical update for the clinical use of L-carnitine analogs in cardiometabolic disorders
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    Thanks! Seeing how I already use 2g a day for focus this is a welcome benefit. I personally still had much better fat loss effects from P L CAR. great interesting read though.
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    Oh man.Wish ya the best. Awesome deal though lol. Will be getting two bottles
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    That is unfortunate. Hopefully it is only temporary, but good luck with future developments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
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    Oh man.Wish ya the best. Awesome deal though lol. Will be getting two bottles
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    Alan thx for the SlinSane v2 hook up!

    Got your business card too, bad ass last name haha.




    What in the baggies though & how to dose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Alan thx for the SlinSane v2 hook up!

    Got your business card too, bad ass last name haha.




    What in the baggies though & how to dose?

    Thats how we roll with Genomyx in the Escalade lol


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