Dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden...
- 06-05-2007, 09:02 PM
- 06-05-2007, 09:03 PM
I can't believe in a god that would allow all the suffering of innocent people and animals to continue. Humans have been torturing each other for thousands of years, when is enough, enough?
Once again. It has nothing to do with God, we chose to not follow God's rules and this is why we suffer! When enough is enough? When everyone on Earth realize we are all one, learn to love each other, get along and follow God's rules again and bring Heaven here on Earth.
At some point long ago, this god would have shown it's self and put a stop to everything.
He did that already two thousand years ago, people refused to follow Him.
Right now, in my mind, this god is not all loving and/or simply just doesn't care what we do to each other.
You are wrong about Him. If you ever ask for His help He will answer you.
06-05-2007, 09:06 PM
06-05-2007, 09:19 PM
Hebrews 11:6 (New International Version)
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
I wish you all the best and this was a good discussion but we will all know for sure when we draw our last breath and then it will be too late to change our minds.We'll have to live with the decision weve made for eternity.
Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths . Proverbs 3:5-6
06-05-2007, 09:21 PM
At some point I may believe in him, but I will not love him or believe he loves us. Right now, if he exists, then he's indifferent to us, not caring one way or the other what we do to each other. That is what I bleieve.
06-05-2007, 09:23 PM
06-05-2007, 09:28 PM
06-05-2007, 09:36 PM
You can make a difference in this world yourself by helping other's and trying to follow God's advice. You can use your free will by doing something good and making differnce in your and your loved ones life. And if everyone would do that, world would be a better place.
06-05-2007, 09:37 PM
06-05-2007, 09:40 PM
I do try to help people every day. I make it a point in my life to be a good person with the people that I come in contact with.
06-05-2007, 09:44 PM
06-05-2007, 09:51 PM
06-05-2007, 10:02 PM
Someone appearing to people 2000 years ago, said people then claiming they witnessed miracles, means nothing.
All powerful here, right? Ok, so materialize and cast all doubt aside. Thereafter, we can choose to be good or not just the same as we can now, correct?
Also, still waiting on that non-contradictory description of the qualities of the supreme being. Anyone?
Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
06-05-2007, 10:04 PM
He needs to give us a new book to live our lives by. One in his words, and his words alone. Nothing that been touched by man. Faith is not working and god or jesus needs to accept this. Man has screwed up, millions have suffered needlessly and continue to. Put it to a stop.
06-05-2007, 10:09 PM
06-05-2007, 10:21 PM
06-05-2007, 10:24 PM
That's just it, it COULD be that easy. It's god's choice, and he's choosing to let us continue to hurt each other. He's wrong and I can't love him even if he does exist.
06-05-2007, 10:27 PM
06-05-2007, 10:36 PM
We will have to respectfully disagree.
I feel man does not have the ability to make the right choice, that's proven every day. God and Jesus need to accept this and change it. It's their choice to let things continue.
06-05-2007, 10:50 PM
06-05-2007, 10:55 PM
[QUOTE=CRUNCH;847295]That's just it, it COULD be that easy. It's god's choice, and he's choosing to let us continue to hurt each other. He's wrong and I can't love him even if he does exist.[/QUOTE
you are talkin here about a perfect world!wich is teh heave after we die after all ppl who get heaven are purified from lal teh bad in them " like hate, jealousy...ec" it s not like that in earth ,if so it ll be easy to belive in god if , god interact directly and dont allow any harm,! happen like to blast evry killer ! or burn it..ect
how can god judge us after that ! he lets bad stuff happen that doesnt mean he likes it!
that whol secret of faith good test us when and innocent got hurt
like a baby ...ect , god let it happen for many reason like to keep teh evidence and test teh parents althro that!
and tahts all about a test i can feel its hard to understand but after teh bad the good come!
06-05-2007, 10:57 PM
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06-06-2007, 12:52 AM
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06-06-2007, 01:02 AM
06-06-2007, 01:12 AM
Darwin had written "If my theory be true, numberless intermediate varieties must assuredly have existed". However evolutionists, who have been doing excavations all over the world, have been unable to uncover even a single intermediate form.Living species emerge very distinctly in the fossil record. There is no trace of the "intermediate forms" that were expected to link these species
06-06-2007, 01:17 AM
The theory of evolution holds that living beings differentiated from each other over a very long period of time with linked, gradual modifications. If this theory were true, then numerous "intermediary species" should have lived in history linking different living species. For instance, if birds had indeed evolved from reptiles, then billions of half-bird/half-reptiles should have lived in history. Darwin knew that the fossil record ought to be full of these "intermediate transitory forms". Yet he was also well aware that no transitional form fossils were available. That was why he asked these troubled questions in his book The Origin of Species: "
06-06-2007, 01:23 AM
Trilobites, one of the oldest living species, appeared 530 million years ago. Their eyes represent the first visual system in the world. These eyes, with their extremely sophisticated and flawless design, deal a fatal blow to the claim of the theory of evolution that "Life evolved from primitive to advanced forms".
One of the living species that appeared suddenly in the Cambrian Period was an invertebrate sea-dwelling creature called the "trilobite". The eye of the trilobite had a "compound eye design". It consisted of hundreds of tiny eyes. Moreover, each of these tiny eyes had two different lenses. It is reckoned that this structure called the "doublet structure" allowed the trilobites to see underwater perfectly, without distortion. A professor of geology from the University of Harvard, David Raup says: The trilobites used an optimal design which would require a well trained and imaginative optical engineer to develop today. This perfect eye structure was brought into being 530 million years ago all of a sudden in its perfect form. No doubt, the sudden appearance of such a wondrous design can by no means explained by chance, all the more proving creation. Additionally, the compound eye system of the trilobites has survived to our day without a single change. Some insects such as bees and dragonflies have the same eye structure as did the trilobite. This situation disproves the evolutionary thesis that living beings developed from the primitive to the complex.
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