Deadlift Weight??

CROWLER · 01-07-2005, 07:24 PM

DAMN we got some jacked bros on our board.

With only a couple of exceptions I have never seen anyone even go to 315 on dead lifts.

Except of course me

**BigVrunga** · 01-07-2005, 10:34 PM

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i held the powerlifting record for deads in 98, 1 max rep for 485, and I was 5'11, 175

That's awesome!!!

**BigVrunga** · 01-07-2005, 10:34 PM

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DAMN we got some jacked bros on our board.

With only a couple of exceptions I have never seen anyone even go to 315 on dead lifts.

I hardly see anyone deadlifting or doing heavy squats at my gym...

meathead1987 · 01-08-2005, 02:13 AM

I have 2 squatters at my gym, I spoted a big guy doing 310x2 once.

There is a female wjho does box squats, and a wierd guy that uses 300+ for quarter squats. Its funny to watch!.

I have still yet to see anyone doing Deads/SLDL

**BigVrunga** · 01-08-2005, 02:13 PM

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I have 2 squatters at my gym, I spoted a big guy doing 310x2 once

A big guy, huh?

exnihilo · 01-08-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by meathead1987

I have 2 squatters at my gym, I spoted a big guy doing 310x2 once.

There is a female wjho does box squats, and a wierd guy that uses 300+ for quarter squats. Its funny to watch!.

I have still yet to see anyone doing Deads/SLDL

Fearsome!

sarge · 01-12-2005, 10:32 AM

5/11--235-- squat 550 ,410 bench,deadlift 575 -- 51 years old.have pulled 800 out of the racks top of kneecap.

jjjd · 01-12-2005, 11:09 AM

210 lbs 5'10

525 lb deadlift, 485 lb squat (ass to grass no belt), 310 lb clean and jerk

b-boy · 01-12-2005, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BigVrunga

I hardly see anyone deadlifting or doing heavy squats at my gym...

wow if your ever in Paducah Kentucky just stop by energy fitness(gay name, I know..LOL) but i promise you will see some strong bro's in there, we have a lot of competitve body builders, and a couple of power lifters, the funny thing is no one give's a **** about "how much you bench" it always..."well how much can you squat and deadlift?" not to say there aren't some damn good benchers in there, its just it's all about sqatting and deadlifting in there! I just wish the owners of the gym weren't such uppidy *******s!

ironviking · 01-12-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by b-boy

wow if your ever in Paducah Kentucky just stop by energy fitness(gay name, I know..LOL) but i promise you will see some strong bro's in there, we have a lot of competitve body builders, and a couple of power lifters, the funny thing is no one give's a **** about "how much you bench" it always..."well how much can you squat and deadlift?" not to say there aren't some damn good benchers in there, its just it's all about sqatting and deadlifting in there! I just wish the owners of the gym weren't such uppidy *******s!

I'll have to visit next time I go to see family.

My DL just went up to 350x5 since I started using straps, oh wait 395 if you count the bar.

At my gym there is a bunch of guys that do the 1/4 squat and there is only one other person I've seen doing deads and he does them every freakin day. He's pretty strong at em but that is all I've seen him do.

**BigVrunga** · 01-12-2005, 12:39 PM

Wow - deads every day? That's overkill...

jjjd · 01-12-2005, 02:10 PM

that's very "pavelesque"

deads don't have a significant eccentric movement, so you can easily do them every day

when i was doing solely olympic lifting training, we did pulls every day (and squats) and pulls are basically speed deadlifts, kind of

it's not an optimal plan for hypertrophy, but it's very "grease the groove" and it works to get your deadlifting weight up

ironviking · 01-12-2005, 02:28 PM

Heck yea but he's strong at em. He'll do rack deads one day then full deads the next, non-lockout deads, I think I saw him doing singles one day. Dude must weigh about 180 but I've seen him do over 400 for reps.

**glenihan** · 01-12-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjd

that's very "pavelesque"

deads don't have a significant eccentric movement, so you can easily do them every day

when i was doing solely olympic lifting training, we did pulls every day (and squats) and pulls are basically speed deadlifts, kind of

it's not an optimal plan for hypertrophy, but it's very "grease the groove" and it works to get your deadlifting weight up

i couldn't disagree more, deads put a TREMENDOUS stress on your CNS, you need time to recover from them, not to mention the back is a huge muscle that needs time to recover

jjjd · 01-12-2005, 03:47 PM

well you can disagree all you like. i know enough people who do deads every day/workout (louie simmons notwithstanding) and continually make progress.

doing deads every day is not the problem. you just have to adjust your loading parameters to take into account the greater frequency

but you are using a bber paradigm "the back is a huge muscle that needs time to recover".

people who do deads every day are using a suboptimal routine for hypetrophy (obviously), and are not working under the muscle group paradigm (generally) but under the movement paradigm.

all muscles need time to recover, but recovery is not linear, and as the bulgarians et al clearly prove, muscles can be worked out before they are "fully recovered" as a bber would think

i also suggest you look at a korte routine, where lifters work the bench, squat and deadlift every day they workout. it's very effective

the proof is in the results

**glenihan** · 01-12-2005, 03:54 PM

well i'll take a look at the "korte routine" as you suggest, it just goes against most everything i've read and learned from the likes of DC and ironaddict, but i always like to learn

jjjd · 01-12-2005, 04:16 PM

fair enough. from what i see (and to paraphrase "not that there's anything wrong with it"), this forum has a very bber oriented viewpoint. i doubt you will find many, if ANY bbers who deadlift (or squat) every session, whereas i know plenty of strength athletes who workout in that manner.

and of course what is optimal for strength is often suboptimal for hypertrophy and vice versa.

strength athletes generally find (especially with more neurologically complex movements - like the snatch) that greater frequency brings greater results.

that's why the bulgarians, poles, etc. squat every day (sometimes multiple times per day) and ditto for the clean and jerk, etc.

these people are also not interested (in fact, try to avoid) sarcoplasmic hypetrophy

and of course, the body has amazing capability to adjust. i would not suggest stampeding towards such a frequency heavy protocol, but the body adjusts to these protocols

when i first started OLing, the idea of squatting every day filled me with dread.

you get used to it