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    Phera and Epi log by nycste


    Hello everyone i have decided to run AX phera-plex and possibly include Epistane or Epidrol

    I am 25 years old and have been working out semi hardcore for the past 3 years. I have had a few injuries along the way as well as just recently getting sick for 2 weeks which really destroyed the progress i was making. This progress was approaching PR status among all lifts while having a much stronger core then ever before but i lost it all and now starting over again for this past month.

    My body measurements are

    HEIGHT 6FT
    Weight= 202 ISH not measured in morning

    Neck 17.5 relaxed
    Around Shoulders 48 relaxed (2 less then ALRI log)
    Chest 45.75 flexed 47.5
    waist at bellie button 38
    forearms 12.25 flexed 13.10
    Bi/Tri 14.5 flexed 16 (.5 bigger flexed)
    Low Thigh 21.25
    High Thigh 25
    Calve 16 (+.5 from start)


    Just an update.

    Wk 1 PherPlex 20mg
    Wk 2 PherPlex 20/30mg (3 days at 20 then 30 for 4)
    Wk 3 PherPlex 20mg Epi 10mg
    Wk 4 PherPlex 10mg Epi 20mg
    Wk 5 Epi 30/40mg
    wk 6 Epi 40mg
    Wk 6 Toremifene 120mg(2ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 7 Toremifene 90mg(1.5ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 8 Toremifene 60mg(1ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 9 Toremifene 30mg(.5ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 10 Restore
    wk 11 Restore
    wk 12 Restore
    wk 13 Restore

    Support Supps Used Daily
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    Liv 52
    Fish Oil
    Hawthorne Berry
    Red Yeast Rice
    dandelion root
    artichoke Extract
    NAC
    Multi
    Grape Seed Extract

    Epistane or Epidrol might be joining this log along with a bumpage in the phera !

    GOALS - Stay safe while increasing some mass.

    This is why i have chosen a new routine known as "Prilepin's Hypertrophy Gains"

    Day 1 - chest, shoulders, back (higher intensity)
    Day 2 - OFF
    Day 3 - Legs and Arms (higer intensity)
    Day 4 - Off
    Day 5 - Chest, Shoulders, triceps (lower intensity)
    Day 6 - Back, Legs, Biceps (lower intensity)
    Day 7 - Off and then cycle repeats

    Enjoy the log i will be as honest as can be no one is paying me to do anything nor was anything free. Time to grow!

    Pictures will be posted soon.
    Last edited by nycste; 07-15-2007 at 05:54 PM. Reason: adding supplement

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    Day 1 - JULY 4th. NO DRINKING NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT.

    2 20mg down.
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    Day 2 Phera plex started Prilepin's Hypertrophy Routine
    Weight 202ish was 210 at gym

    Also joined new gym!!!! i now have a cage to squat in


    Day 1 - low 80percent range, no more then 85percent. Sets on 4/1/2/1 tempo

    Flat barbell benching
    155x6
    155x6
    155x6
    were hard sadly 90s rest per set

    inc db presses
    60x6
    60x6
    60x5
    hard again 90s rest per set

    low pulley cable rows standing up
    90x6
    90x6
    90x6
    not hard but my body was burning

    -well this has to be one of the smallest workouts i have ever done and yet i really liked it. i was faily full body feeling and my chest and lats/back were fairly spent on such little work simply amazing.

    -Phera comments. i wanna say i feel diff although i have been snacking all day real food was not good today yesturday was great but gotta do it everyday dammit !

    Off on Friday. with workout planned for sat.
    legs + arms

    low 80percent range, no more then 85percent. Sets on 4/1/2/1 tempo

    squats 5reps x 4sets x 120sec rest
    SLDL 6reps x 2 sets x 120sec rest
    underhand close grip pulldowns 6reps x 3sets x 90sec rest
    dips elbows in 6reps x 3sets x 90sec rest
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    Day 3 Phera plex started Prilepin's Hypertrophy Routine
    Weight 203(+1) was 213 (+3) at gym

    Also joined new gym!!!! i now have a cage to squat in

    Supplements today.
    2 phera
    4scoops xtend
    1scoop purple wrath
    1scoop green magnitude
    milk thistle 10 or more
    red yeast rice 1-2
    hawthorn berries 4
    pwo shake 40protein 25-50 carb


    low 80percent range, no more then 85percent.
    Sets on 4/1/2/1 tempo

    squats 120sec rest
    135x5
    185x5
    185x5
    185x5 (only last rep/2 of set 3/4 were hard)

    Sumo SLDL x 120sec rest overhand grip
    185x6
    185x6 semi hard but not really

    underhand close grip pulldowns x 90sec rest
    100x6 too easy
    150x6 too easy
    200x6 not to hard

    dips elbows in x 90sec rest
    bwx6
    +15x6
    +30x6 (using dbs bah to ez)


    -new routine for me im not used to limiting myself in reguards to reps most of the things tonight were too ez but i wanted to make sure i could do the number of reps and would rather just make it heavier next week.

    -squats are right around 80percent as of now. sldl were hard so they are just about right on myhammies were burnt afterwards. underhand cg pulldowns were way to easy gotta go heavier machine maxes at 300 could be a prob. dips i really need to buy a belt
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    I'm gonna kickstart a test-p/tren-a/masteron cycle with PheraPlex soon! I'll be watching this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier View Post
    I'm gonna kickstart a test-p/tren-a/masteron cycle with PheraPlex soon! I'll be watching this.
    good gawd son!! PP is awesome stuff tho, you both will like it.
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    Day 4 Phera plex

    Weight wakeup and pee 204/205 (+1-2)

    -no workout today going to a friends house in NJ. no drinking for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    Day 4 Phera plex

    Weight wakeup and pee 204/205 (+1-2)

    -no workout today going to a friends house in NJ. no drinking for me.
    where in NJ?
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    PCT you can run the DIESEL TEST hardcore solo without the restore. You dont need to stack DTH with another herbal test booster or anti-estrogen during PCT. U can just run the restore after the DTH. Also restore has chasteberry which lowers prolactin and increase LH, but in males it also lowers testosterone....dont really know why its in test boosters (maybe i will find the study and post it). If anything stack the DTH with Raw Test, but def. not a product with an anti-estogen compound, its not nec. with DTH.
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    What kinda of results should I ecpect useing CEL's M-Drol???
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    Can Novedex XT Be a good PCT for M-drol (superdrol clone)
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    Quote Originally Posted by One and Only View Post
    Can Novedex XT Be a good post cycle therapy for M-drol (superdrol clone)
    No. Get a SERM, like present loggers Toremifene. Or Nolva/Clomid. M-drol is a PH and will shut you down. Ya need a SERM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    post cycle therapy you can run the DIESEL TEST hardcore solo without the restore. You dont need to stack DTH with another herbal test booster or anti-estrogen during PCT. U can just run the restore after the DTH. Also restore has chasteberry which lowers prolactin and increase LH, but in males it also lowers testosterone....dont really know why its in test boosters (maybe i will find the study and post it). If anything stack the DTH with Raw Test, but def. not a product with an anti-estogen compound, its not nec. with DTH.
    thanks Chuck Diesel
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    Day 5 Phera 20mg Sunday

    Day 6 Phera 20mg Monday
    -weight 205ish. not directly after wakeup.


    Update to Cycle. Adding Epistane or Epidrol on Weds.

    Wk 1 PherPlex 20mg
    Wk 2 PherPlex 20mg Epi 20mg
    Wk 3 PherPlex 30mg Epi 30mg
    Wk 4 PherPlex 40mg Epi 40mg
    Wk 5 Epi 40mg
    Wk 6 Toremifene 120mg(2ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 7 Toremifene 90mg(1.5ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 8 Toremifene 60mg(1ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 9 Toremifene 30mg(.5ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 10 Restore

    Tonights workout.
    all sets done with a 3/0/2/0 tempo

    flat bb bench press 70percent 10reps x 3sets x 75sec rest
    seated db press 70percent x 10reps x 3 sets x 75sec rest
    lying ez bar tricep ext 70percent x 10reps x 3sets x 75sec rest
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    Still day 6 Phera
    Weight at gym was i think 214 (+4)

    70Percent 3 sets 10reps 75seconds

    Flat BB
    135x10
    155x10
    155x10
    155x9

    Seated DB
    45x10
    45x10
    45x5 GRRR

    Lying EZ
    85x10
    85x10
    85x10
    were hard

    -well i feel so crappy moving around such girly weights my ego is dying inside of me but i still do my best knowing im lifting what was once super ez warmups.

    -overall feelings during workout was a really nice pump in my triceps, chest, shoulders. arms were really pumped and to the sides as if my lats were huge but they werent really worked.

    -thoughts on this training routine. seems still interesting its hard doing slower reps and really hard not knowing what weight to use due to not knowing my maxes and recovering all my strength that i lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synicus View Post
    No. Get a SERM, like present loggers Toremifene. Or Nolva/Clomid. M-drol is a PH and will shut you down. Ya need a SERM.
    good advice.

    Day 7 Phera
    Weight 204 (+2)

    TUT 3-0-2-0

    Leg Press TUT 3-0-2-0
    540 x10 high narrow
    540 x10 high narrow
    540 x10 low wide
    540 x8 low wide

    -were pretty hard only got 8 on last set

    Front Pulldowns to chest (still not sure what this is. i did a lat pulldown basically) TUT 3-0-2-0
    100x10
    100x10
    90x10
    90x9
    -was hard, grip was weak.

    DB Curls no cheating no swinging NUTIN TUT 3-0-2-0
    30x10
    30x10
    30x10

    -this workout kicked my ass. felt great. im really feeling sore from these TUT workouts and i hope this Prilepin's Hypertrophy routine is working because my body is telling me it is.

    -weight is up 2 lbs from day 1. nothing to brag about. i tend to lose 3-4 lbs from the time i go to bed till i wakeup if there is no bathroom breaks. how do i lose 3-4 lbs while sleeping thats a lot. doesnt help thats its 90-100 degrees i guess.

    -comments about the phera. honestly i dont feel any different at all. no headaches no back pumps no nothing. just slower recovery in general. My triceps are rocked from yesturdays workout as i was putting on sun lotion today and my triceps were pooped haha.
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    -comments about the phera. honestly i dont feel any different at all. no headaches no back pumps no nothing. just slower recovery in general.
    I felt Phera the 1st day, felt very good/euphoric pretty much all cycle, 5 + wks. I began to notice strength increase w/in 3 days. Get a ReliOn BP monitor from Wallyworld, and ramp up the dosage. I went as high as 50mg. Depending on BP I think 30-40mg is prob safe. I'd ramp up the Phera before I added Epistane esp if you haven't run Epistane before. 7 days into cycle I think you'd be safe at 30-40mg but monitor BP, ramp to 30 for 2-3 days monitor BP, then go to 40 if BP is ok and see if you start to see strength increase.

    Complex is not necessarily better, ie Phera + Epistane. That's what I've learned from present cycle I'm on, Ergo Max LMG + Havoc + Mega TRN. Mega TRN is only one that's really agreed w/ me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synicus View Post
    I felt Phera the 1st day, felt very good/euphoric pretty much all cycle, 5 + wks. I began to notice strength increase w/in 3 days. Get a ReliOn BP monitor from Wallyworld, and ramp up the dosage. I went as high as 50mg. Depending on BP I think 30-40mg is prob safe. I'd ramp up the Phera before I added Epistane esp if you haven't run Epistane before. 7 days into cycle I think you'd be safe at 30-40mg but monitor BP, ramp to 30 for 2-3 days monitor BP, then go to 40 if BP is ok and see if you start to see strength increase.

    Complex is not necessarily better, ie Phera + Epistane. That's what I've learned from present cycle I'm on, Ergo Max LMG + Havoc + Mega TRN. Mega TRN is only one that's really agreed w/ me.
    Hey bro, I'm contemplating using Phera on my cutter coming up, with Test Prop/Tren Ace/Masteron Prop. You think it's a good idea? I keep hearing "too wet", "too dirty" for a cutter....what do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier View Post
    Hey bro, I'm contemplating using Phera on my cutter coming up, with Test Prop/Tren Ace/Masteron Prop. You think it's a good idea? I keep hearing "too wet", "too dirty" for a cutter....what do you think?
    i was more vascular on PP.... go figure. I could have been holding water but hell, i was still cut the fck up!
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    hey guys thanks for stopping by

    Today Day 8 week 2. OFF DAY

    Weight after morning pee 210 ??? WTF +8lbs i know this isnt muscle haha its impossible but still glad its weight even if its only water

    gonna go to grandpas and help them move some **** in this 100degree weather OMG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier View Post
    I keep hearing "too wet", "too dirty" for a cutter....what do you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by nycste
    Weight after morning pee 210 ??? WTF +8lbs i know this isnt muscle haha its impossible but still glad its weight even if its only water
    Yeah, my personal opinion is that Phera is wet. I remember even my fingers were swolen big-time, nothing like I had ever experienced. Loved the freaking strength gains, though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    NYC, what cycle plan did you decide to go with?
    still not sure haha.

    i created this thread Phera + EPI. looking for advice and its created some interest. wish i did this 2 weeks ago but i didnt o well.

    Currently im just sticking with 20mg phera for 4weeks untill i change it otherwise.

    todays an offday but i did a bunch of lifting couches and stuff at grandparents.
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    Hey bro, I'm contemplating using Phera on my cutter coming up, with Test Prop/Tren Ace/Masteron Prop. You think it's a good idea? I keep hearing "too wet", "too dirty" for a cutter....what do you think?
    Not to hijack this log but....

    I've seen logs w/ it primarily for cut. I ate 4000-5000 cals on my PP cycle, gained 10lbs, kept all, I was lean hardly any bloat. Present cycle has been Ergo Max LMG + Havoc + Mega TRN, cals @ 3000 more or less, I'm up 10-16lbs, I'm "dry" but "bloaty." Go figure.... Most people seem to feel good on Phera so I'd consider that than doing something like Superdrol where you might get dry gains but feel like sh#t. The "wetness" I think is overrated. I just felt really good on Phera which is why I got some Pheravol coming.

    I think present loggers cycle should be:

    wk1 20
    wk2 30
    wk3 30 (40)
    wk4 40
    wk5 ?

    but then it aint me, just make sure you monitor BP.
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    tonight did 2+ miles outside nice slow jog. legs are feeling the run for sure it was also like a billion degrees.
    came back downed 20g bcaas and cold shower bath. damn it was cold felt amazinng when i turned it warm again


    Just an update.

    Wk 1 PherPlex 20mg
    Wk 2 PherPlex 20/30mg (3 days at 20 then 30 for 4)
    Wk 3 PherPlex 20mg Epi 10mg
    Wk 4 PherPlex 10mg Epi 20mg
    Wk 5 Epi 30/40mg
    wk 6 Epi 40mg
    Wk 6 Toremifene 120mg(2ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 7 Toremifene 90mg(1.5ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 8 Toremifene 60mg(1ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 9 Toremifene 30mg(.5ml) / Diesel Test Hardcore
    Wk 10 Restore
    wk 11 Restore
    wk 12 Restore
    wk 13 Restore

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    -Today was day off again did some moving.
    -weight before bed, before last pee or poop and protein shake is 214 (+12) clearly not muscle but whatever
    -my body feels these TUT workouts its really kicking my tush, recovery has been taking longer compared to my previous workout routine
    -tomm i will take 30mg PP due to it being a workout day and my split will look like
    low 80percent range, no more then 85percent. Sets on 4/1/2/1 tempo

    Flat DB Bench Press 6reps x 3sets x 90sec rest
    High Inc BB Press 6reps x 3sets x 90sec rest
    Low Pulley cable rows 6reps x 3sets x 90sec rest
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    today day 9. weight after morning bathroom activites 209. (+7) from start

    as posted directly above my next workout will be done tonight and i cannot wait for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    You sure you don't want to drop the phera on week 4 and take higher dose epi? Or just drop this cycle and start injecting like me and we can have comfort in each others pain
    no way. i enjoy LOLing at you reading your daily wahhhs. ill just keep swallowing my pills and LOLing at your needles of joy
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    no way. i enjoy LOLing at you reading your daily wahhhs. ill just keep swallowing my pills and LOLing at your needles of joy


    although i am HIGHLY considering pins...................
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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post


    although i am HIGHLY considering pins...................
    hey i have enuff LOLs for u too. i dont think there is anything wrong wtih pinning yourself. i just have no idea how to do it and wont go near it till i totally understand it. gluck brotha
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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post


    although i am HIGHLY considering pins...................
    I'm seriously thinking thats a better idea than most of the designers really. some test enan alone would do the trick probably for me
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    Sup nycste. Looks like you've been making some pretty good gains. To me PP isn't such a "wet" compound. Last time I ran it I got much more striated and cut and I was eating DIRTY (i was in college).

    Hopefully my current cycle will give me similar results to what you're seeing. Good luck bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    Sup nycste. Looks like you've been making some pretty good gains. To me PP isn't such a "wet" compound. Last time I ran it I got much more striated and cut and I was eating DIRTY (i was in college).

    Hopefully my current cycle will give me similar results to what you're seeing. Good luck bro.
    thanks for stopping by. gluck to the both of us. we are doing a similar dosage and hopefully both see some great results. im doing this all for size i dont care about strength right now. i left my ego back home and it doesnt come to the gym anymore.

    alright Day 9. weight in morning after bathroom was 209.
    Pheraplex 30mg TODAY as it being a workout day

    weight after my workout as im typing this is 211 and todays diet was HORRIBLe spent 6 hours trying to find me a freaking suit that fit most just didnt. i aint a big guy but jesus im afraid to know how hard it is for most of you big guys to find one thats not over 300bucks. then again NYC sucks for finding stuff cheap sometimes.

    workout. the weights used tonight was horrible. i forgot my notepad and forgot what to use but nonetheless what i did tonight was hard. the low cable rows was stupid and easy but very annoying and the bench work sadly was really hard .

    Flat Bench 3x6 4-1-2-1
    135x6
    135x6
    145x6

    Inc DB bench 4-1-2-1
    50x6
    50x6
    50x6

    Low cable rows 4-1-2-1
    100x6
    120x6
    120x6

    well thats it folks. the flat and inc bench work was hard sadly and last week i used slightly heavier weights. but the good news is i left my ego at home so who cares about what weight is moving up and down i care about the mirror and one of the guys said im looking bigger. thats all that counts right now.
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    Today Day 10.
    bodyweight 209 wakeup
    phera 20mg today
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    still day 10.

    did 2 miles run with .5 mile sorta sprint work

    and lots of walking today at least 5miles

    -i felt actually kinda weird earlier today i forget how it felt but i didnt like it. i wanted to blame phera but it went away so who knows what it was.

    and lastly anyone reading this explain to me what are
    Front Pulldowns to chest

    i consider these basically lat pulldowns. but if they were lat pulldowns they wouldnt be called Front Pulldowns to chest .
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    Day 11 i believe
    Weight in morning 209ish
    Phera 30mgs today and a workout in by 4 will post later
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    Day 11 30mg phera

    Squats 4x5 4-1-2-1 120s
    135x5 warmup
    185x5
    185x5
    205x5
    205x5
    happy i was able to bump up to 205

    SLDL 2x6 4-1-2-1
    185x6
    185x6 or 7
    lost grip on last rep lost count too heh

    Underhand Close grip pulldowns 3x6 90s
    200x6
    200x6
    200x6
    was hard

    Dips elbows in 3x6 90s
    50x6
    60x6
    75x4 grr
    used dbs btw my feet barely had any room and im guess semi pleased but i really need a dip belt

    -overall workout felt good. i was able to increase weight alittle on squats and still get 5reps although it was hard but not impossible.

    -sldl were hard but felt greati really do SL i barely bend my knees at all not sure if this is good or bad.

    -underhand cg pulldowns fried my biceps but not really my back maybe im doing it slightly wrong or something but felt good was hard

    -and dips are just annoying using dbs btw your feet with no room to fully extend, must get a dip belt and powerbelt for squats and deads
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    Thats a lot of sets of dips man, you're gonna hurt your elbows doing that many sets.
    there was a typo about howmany reps i did i had 3x9 which meant 3 sets of 9reps.

    but i really did 3 sets of 6 reps with last set being 2 reps short cuz i bumped up weight to much.

    doing 3 sets of dips is gonna hurt my elbows hehe? i think you read something wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    Ohhhh, i read that as you did 3 sets with 90s, then a set with 50, 60, and 75. Thats how I interpreted that.
    ur so silly

    Day 12 Phera OFF DAY. weight in morning 209
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    how tall are you fool
    grrr this dum bass didnt say his height but i swear its in all my other logs. im 6ft. first post updated :P

    so sorry masta gixxer82
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    just was wondering if been taking my phera sometimes with meals, before meals, after meals, etc etc. when should i be taking this and when should i take EPI once i start that in a few days.

    cant believe i didnt ask this before.

    ive been drinking water nonstop lately and peeing 1-2 times an hour hehe makeing sure everythings working
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    just was wondering if been taking my phera sometimes with meals, before meals, after meals, etc etc. when should i be taking this and when should i take EPI once i start that in a few days.

    cant believe i didnt ask this before.

    ive been drinking water nonstop lately and peeing 1-2 times an hour hehe makeing sure everythings working
    I've taken them BOTH with and without meals...........i would just spread them out evenly..........I found epi was best RIGHT before bed and RIGHT after waking up then in the middle.

    Phera, i would just spread out evenly through the day.

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