Iron's Phera Log

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  1. Excellent Log bro.. You worked hard and reaped the benefits.. nice work


  2. When are you planning to start your SD cycle?
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  3. Mullet, I'm not sure, I want to start it in 4 weeks, but I really don't know if that's going to the best idea...Right now I'm reading into different ideas about how long you should stay off...

    It sucks though, cuz I really want to keep growing, but I want to make sure I'm healthy too...you know?

    I'll let you guys know what I decide.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron
    Mullet, I'm not sure, I want to start it in 4 weeks, but I really don't know if that's going to the best idea...Right now I'm reading into different ideas about how long you should stay off...

    It sucks though, cuz I really want to keep growing, but I want to make sure I'm healthy too...you know?

    I'll let you guys know what I decide.
    Ohh man, do I ever know...I have all these supps burning a whole in my cabinet but am waiting till I am 185-190 @ 5'10 to do a cycle..I sit around the same BF as you, around 8-10%...Well. I think most people on here would tell you to wait time on+pct till your next cycle, so essentially 8 weeks..I think you could probably get away with six, just get some blood done, as long as your tests/bp/lipids are good to go I'd say give 'er after six..You aren't doing the same complex twice in a row so I don't think it will effect your gains, but health is always first..

  5. hell ya just startre pp 4 days ago
    start weight 160
    im at 164 this morning an have been sleeping great
    great post
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
    Ohh man, do I ever know...I have all these supps burning a whole in my cabinet but am waiting till I am 185-190 @ 5'10 to do a cycle..I sit around the same BF as you, around 8-10%...Well. I think most people on here would tell you to wait time on+pct till your next cycle, so essentially 8 weeks..I think you could probably get away with six, just get some blood done, as long as your tests/bp/lipids are good to go I'd say give 'er after six..You aren't doing the same complex twice in a row so I don't think it will effect your gains, but health is always first..
    yea man...I think I'm going to get the bloodwork done sometime within my PCT, since I just recently got out of college (dropped from my rents insurance) and got my own, I really don't think that they are going to question my reasoning for it at all...so it sohuld be a free test, plus phsyical and the whole nine...

    but there are so many things out there that I want to try...like i mentioned before, SD (I'm a little weary of the sides), a Phera/Pro Stack, a MTST/MTRN stack...but mostly I just want to keep growing...haha

    you said you're waiting until youre 185-190, what are you at now? and what are you thinking about running?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by eleazar17
    hell ya just startre pp 4 days ago
    start weight 160
    im at 164 this morning an have been sleeping great
    great post
    nice, best of luck man...

  8. Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron
    yea man...I think I'm going to get the bloodwork done sometime within my PCT, since I just recently got out of college (dropped from my rents insurance) and got my own, I really don't think that they are going to question my reasoning for it at all...so it sohuld be a free test, plus phsyical and the whole nine...

    but there are so many things out there that I want to try...like i mentioned before, SD (I'm a little weary of the sides), a Phera/Pro Stack, a MTST/MTRN stack...but mostly I just want to keep growing...haha

    you said you're waiting until youre 185-190, what are you at now? and what are you thinking about running?
    Right now I am sitting at 170-175, right in the middle of a really good bulk, still about as lean as my avy (I am only 158 in that pic) . And I kinda want to do that TST/TRN stack as well, but seeing as it will be my first cycle, I am going to do either an SD or TRN standalone...

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
    Right now I am sitting at 170-175, right in the middle of a really good bulk, still about as lean as my avy (I am only 158 in that pic) . And I kinda want to do that TST/TRN stack as well, but seeing as it will be my first cycle, I am going to do either an SD or TRN standalone...
    So i take it you don't want to hinder any future gains by not maximizing your body pre-AAS? Makes sense to me. I was just about as big as I've ever gotten before I did this cycle...195. I think my peak weight in life (other then right this second) was around 200...and I never try to go above 10% BF, so it was really hard to get myself to that point...

    but ****, im itchin to start that SD cycle...haha

  10. wow - great log

    let us know how the pct goes.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron
    So i take it you don't want to hinder any future gains by not maximizing your body pre-AAS? Makes sense to me.
    but ****, im itchin to start that SD cycle...haha
    Yeah exactly, I think I can resist the temptation, if not I will start it when I hit 180..Maybe in the summer.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by ripped_monkey
    wow - great log

    let us know how the pct goes.
    Well the first three 2mL shots of TC went down like a dirty ass crack...i knew there was bound to be something that tasted bad when you cycle...you can never get around any kind of supplementation without something that tastes horrible...I think tomorrow i'm going to start chasing it with either cranberry or orange juice instead of water and propel.

    Everything else is looking good, I'm going to start throwing cardio into my normal routine again to help get rid of a little excess fat quicker. But the bloating has already subsided. I took the day off from the gym yesterday to goto the 76ers game (yea i know they suck but they blew out the hawks last night and it was AI's first game back and my office had a luxury box and I got to meet up with a bunch of the players after the game, so it was worth it)...

    But I'll update you guy on any strength increase/decrease next week...

  13. Good job Iron. I'm having about the same sides/gains/ect on my PP/Fini cycle. I was reading back on some of the posts higher up in this page and was noticing the similarities in the two cycles. You're right about the extra 10lbs of mass. It really DOES make a diff. Clothes fit differently, people look at you differently, more glances....just little things like that. I'm really diggin' it so far! Keep up the good log!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by eleazar17
    hell ya just startre pp 4 days ago
    start weight 160
    im at 164 this morning an have been sleeping great
    great post
    I am glad you are doing so well...
    Keep up the good work !!!

  15. Quick update after day 4 of my PCT, strength is static. My weight has not changed and is still 205.

    The beginning of my workout yesterday sucked because I was so tired from the basketball game the night before, but it ended up being a really great workout...5th set of military DB press of 95 x 6 with two negative and then immediately jumping down to 45 x 6 with no rest in between and a my 5th set of shrugs of 455 x 6 then two drop sets with no rest of 315 x 8 and then 225 x 8 where the highlights of the day...

    But i did cramp up at the end when i was doing some ab work on the swiss ball. It wasnt a water problem, since i still drink about 2 gallons a day, i had a bannana about an ohur before my workout so it wasnt a potassium definciency, so it must be the Phre cycling thru or out of my system.

    But still, its awesome how some of your worst workouts can turn into your best.

  16. You are going with a three week protocol for PCT right?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
    You are going with a three week protocol for PCT right?
    Thats the plan...

  18. I think that is a pretty fair call, it doesn't look like you have had anything suspect on this cycle, and you already have the Novla on hand..Just wondering...

  19. PCT Day 6:

    Just got back from the Docs...just a routine checkup everything was great, minus a very slightly elevated BP of 134/77, which my doc tells me not to worry about because its early in the morning. A friend of mine took is yesterday and it was 124/69 so thats a fair assessment.

    My weight is sitting pretty at 204lbs. Today is my last day at 40mgs Nolva/ 3 Retain/ 75mgs Rebound. Tomorrow the break down will be 30/3/50.

    No signs of gyno, my BF has gotten slightly lower. Any kind of shrinkage my boys may have sustained has already been alleviated...

    Quick side note, its easier to take the nolva nowadays...you get used to that acidic whole grain alcohol taste quickly...

  20. Yeah, you can always cap them too..It takes like twenty minutes to do a whole bottle, after I smelt mine I capped two bottles for my upcoming cycles

  21. You can cap the nolva? I just figured that was pretty impossible because of the alcohol? Did you use a cap em quick? And what type of shell did you use?

  22. I bought extra thick gelatin caps, not the cheesbag skinny ones...I didn't use a cap quick, didn't have to the dropper is small enough it fits right in there...Make sure you buy a syringe/baby dropper with cc's on it so you know how much is going in each pill..The caps I bought were pretty large so they held quite a bit, and I just put different amounts in each one..

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
    I bought extra thick gelatin caps, not the cheesbag skinny ones...I didn't use a cap quick, didn't have to the dropper is small enough it fits right in there...Make sure you buy a syringe/baby dropper with cc's on it so you know how much is going in each pill..The caps I bought were pretty large so they held quite a bit, and I just put different amounts in each one..
    This is genius. Make capping Tamoxifen a sticky. Reps son, I say reps to yooooou.

  24. Yep, just put it up in the post cycle therapy section...

  25. PCT DAY 9:

    Weight is down to 203, a little depressing since I have lost 3lbs, but the strength is still there, which is great. I think the big test on the strength keeping factor for myself will be friday and saturday since they are my chest and leg day, respectively.

    No signs of Gyno, still.

    I think the reason my weight is decreasing is because I'm firming up, no more bloatedness at all. I also added in minor amounts of cardio post w/o and things seem to be coming along well. I'm just praying that i don't have to mess with my diet much to keep myself above 200...I still stick to what I posted at the beginning of this log.
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