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    Ok thanks for clarifying, just wanted to make sure I have it all down pat! I might have to slightly adjust my schedule and try to workout a little earlier in the day so I have time to get in the 2 doses of support and other does of pros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MavGoose View Post
    Ok thanks for clarifying, just wanted to make sure I have it all down pat! I might have to slightly adjust my schedule and try to workout a little earlier in the day so I have time to get in the 2 doses of support and other does of pros.
    no worries and once you get it down to a routine, it'll become second nature and don't be afraid to take them with you and take em in public, their technically vitamins right hahah.
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    ok I'll try not to overthink it... hahaha i gotcha, I'm always carrying around pillboxes and poppin em so it'll be a natural look for me anyways takin this stuff around with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MavGoose View Post
    ok I'll try not to overthink it... hahaha i gotcha, I'm always carrying around pillboxes and poppin em so it'll be a natural look for me anyways takin this stuff around with me.
    There ya go and if you have to take liquids around, just make sure to take off the sticker and you're g2g. I've dosed torem before in mcdonalds on the road and although the many times I've done it, only one person asked what it was, it's a special anti-bacterial mouthwash.

    A heads up with forma (don't worry about application yet, until the time comes) don't go over the recommended amount of pumps, otherwise it'll become an anabolic agent; during PCT that's a major no no. Also, be sure to taper down from it and use it 2 weeks after your last dose of serm, so make sure you have enough for 6 weeks (the last two are pretty much 1-2 squirts am/pm).

    You may or may not get headaches/increased BP when starting HB so once those fade away then drop down during cycle (3x 565 HB before cycle starts and then when cycle starts 2x HB and that could go with MT since you already have the assist you're good).
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    yeah no worries, but haha that is brilliant!

    okay I will remember that for forma PCT

    I'm totally lost on the last paragraph, sorry. HB and MT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MavGoose View Post
    yeah no worries, but haha that is brilliant!

    okay I will remember that for forma PCT

    I'm totally lost on the last paragraph, sorry. HB and MT?
    Forma is also good on hand just in case you notice any extra bloat, etc and start that off lightly until you notice improvement; last week of my hella/sd cycle I was going off and on it, before I was on it fully during PCT followed by 2 weeks when I finished PCT.

    HB = Hawthrone Berry and MT = Milk Thistle, although you have cycle support, I think it would be a bit better of an option to use those two + joint supp for pre-load, then when you hit cycle take the assist and when you're taking the assist you could either take an extra pill of both (you have to get a feel for your body).

    For example when I was deep into my stack, I felt it was hard to urinate at times, my pee would be darker, so I upped my water and extra MT on top of a probably well under dosed supp and felt much better. If my headaches would be too intense, I'd increase my HB; that's also a double edged sword, because depending on how much you take and when, it could help or very well exacerbate your headaches and BP. So once you get a good gauge on how your body reacts, you'll be able to adjust a few things here and there and that'll make a world of difference.
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    Makes sense, I should have the forma on hand by the end of the week.

    Okay thanks, sorry about that, I have MT and will pick up some HB and start loading up today. I will definitely keep all of this in mind, watching how my body reacts to everything closely. Hopefully keeping everything in check will keep sides at a minimum. Decreased libido shouldn't be a concern tho?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MavGoose View Post
    Makes sense, I should have the forma on hand by the end of the week.

    Okay thanks, sorry about that, I have MT and will pick up some HB and start loading up today. I will definitely keep all of this in mind, watching how my body reacts to everything closely. Hopefully keeping everything in check will keep sides at a minimum. Decreased libido shouldn't be a concern tho?
    Sounds good and no need to apologize at all bro; anytime you have a second doubt just post it up and we got cha here. Just listen to your body, no need to drive yourself crazy like I used to do, by checking every lump and trying to link everything together; be natural and relaxed and if something comes out of left field, be cool check it for a bit, don't over think it, try to come to a conclusion through research or post it here/ask someone.

    With stano, decreased libido/lethargy shouldn't be a problem at all, I mean unless your diet sucks and don't do any cardio with little to no water/carb intake, but I highly doubt that those are a factor here. Try to hump a bit of time after pumping, eat certain foods/fruits and you'll be golden. That was one of my biggest concerns about hopping on, the oh **** I can't perform for my girlfriend (well, ex now, but still) and other broads; I know a few things I did were overkill, but for a cycle like this, I wouldn't sweat it. Even my next joint, I'll still be a bit nervous at first, because I'm going back out again and one of the last times I got laid during PCT last week, first time was like a min hahaha and after that slowly getting back to normal; sorry for sharing that, but it's all about experiences to go by for me.
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    Ok well I appreciate it! I understand I'll be chill about everything and not overthink.

    My diet has been on point for some time, and now that I'll be on a cycle that just gives me motivation to keep it even more in check. high proteins. veggies, fruits, good fats, lower on carbs but enof to fuel my body. And hahaha don't have to be sorry bro it makes sense, glad that shouldn't be a concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MavGoose View Post
    Ok well I appreciate it! I understand I'll be chill about everything and not overthink.

    My diet has been on point for some time, and now that I'll be on a cycle that just gives me motivation to keep it even more in check. high proteins. veggies, fruits, good fats, lower on carbs but enof to fuel my body. And hahaha don't have to be sorry bro it makes sense, glad that shouldn't be a concern.
    no doubt sounds very good; that's prob one of the best motivations to eat cleaner as well, I mean, a cheat meal here and there is completely understandable for putting on weight. I'm just suggesting to lay off certain foods that are harsh/will put your organs under stress. Don't forget fiber is key, fast or slow metabolism, constipation at it's true form ****ing sucks. Here I was thinking chheeaaahhh gonna keep that all in, get the most outta my vitamins and keep all my weight, after a few days of not going [but feeling like I had to], I was ready to kill someone. For good source of natural sugars/energy: cherries, banana (potassium is very important here), blueberries (great for libido as well), etc. Speaking of cherries, once you pop this (triple pun intended) you'll be ready to move onto the next and really you won't look back after this.
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    For sure I prlly do a cheat meal once every week or 2. I have some fiber tabs I take on days when I feel like I don't get enof so that should help. Ok I'll remember those fruits. Hahaha very clever there, I'm very excited, sounds great!

    PS had to stop by Best Buy today and saw all of the Die Hard movies there, thought of you. Don't hate me for this but I can honestly say I haven't seen any of them lol. I'll have to in the future tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MavGoose View Post
    For sure I prlly do a cheat meal once every week or 2. I have some fiber tabs I take on days when I feel like I don't get enof so that should help. Ok I'll remember those fruits. Hahaha very clever there, I'm very excited, sounds great!

    PS had to stop by Best Buy today and saw all of the Die Hard movies there, thought of you. Don't hate me for this but I can honestly say I haven't seen any of them lol. I'll have to in the future tho.
    Yeah once a week is perfect and on top of fiber tabs, also get in a good source of pineapple.

    Word? Damn, when you have a day of nothing to do or wanna watch movies you definitely gotta check em all out, google movie2k and you're g2g. The first 2 are real Die Hard and the others are adopted stories, but it's all about McClane, well, the third one is all about McClane and Samuel L, so fckin loose. Loved the first three (second was my least), then the fourth and fifth, not sure what happened but for a good turn off your mind action flicks those two are good. I saw the recent one in theaters with a few friends when it came out, I don't care what anyone says I liked it and look forward to a sixth. Between the Die Hards and Batman (old to new school), plus a few other things and I'll go into straight geek mode hahah; by the way thanks for all the reps bro I appreciate that.
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    Ok sounds great.

    Sounds like a plan, I def will. I'm a big fan of old school action films myself, so sparks my interest. Sly is my hero tho, haha, that's what I'm going for here, the Rocky IV/ Rambo III look. So badass. I agree with you on the batman films they are so sick. Saw the newest one in IMAX with my girl but the only seats left were in the very front row, had a sore neck by the end of the night lol... and np with the reps you've seriously helped me so much I appreciate all the detail and time you've taken to help me maximize my cycle so not only will I get the most results but also do it with minimal sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MavGoose View Post
    Ok sounds great.

    Sounds like a plan, I def will. I'm a big fan of old school action films myself, so sparks my interest. Sly is my hero tho, haha, that's what I'm going for here, the Rocky IV/ Rambo III look. So badass. I agree with you on the batman films they are so sick. Saw the newest one in IMAX with my girl but the only seats left were in the very front row, had a sore neck by the end of the night lol... and np with the reps you've seriously helped me so much I appreciate all the detail and time you've taken to help me maximize my cycle so not only will I get the most results but also do it with minimal sides.
    no doubt yeah Sly is up there for me too, rambo's are the ish as well, so intense. Off subject, those hot shot (1 and part deux) movies with Sheen are also classics; proper spoof action flicks, those are classics to me, plus you know Sheen was definitely on a cyc on top of the crazy ass **** he was pullin back in the day. Well, I think this is a good path heading towards your goal and as long as you make the best of it (even sh1t days), you'll be able to etch something inside of you and as you read around what I write, you gotta make the worse days the best for motivation.

    The advice I give is based on my experiences and others; I mean before I did anything and even on cycle, I would search, cross reference, link others positives, negatives and used what went great/horrible for them and had to do both. I had to find things out on my own that although it sucked for me at the time, thank God that I recovered perfectly and wherever I went wrong I would make sure others knew about it.

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    "How will you live, John?" haha. I haven't seen those but Sheen is def one crazy and entertaining mofo... And thanks man, I will undoubtedly stay focused and remember to keep it together in the tough times.

    Its really cool how people like you and others are so willing to share advice/ info based on your own research and also trial and error. I def wanna give back as much as possible by keeping a log once I get started. And I'll def check out those boards too.
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    So I got a couple packages in the mail today and I am officially g2g!!! The slated start date for my cycle is Sunday.

    Like I said before, I will be trying to keep a log that updates on how things are going, I will also post info regarding training, nutrition, and supplementation regimen for those interested. I will try to also give weekly updates on quantitative values such as weight, body measurements, bf, etc... So I can see the change from where I started and my current progress. As a note for my supplementation other than the pros and cycle support, I am going to be buying single ingredients separate and mixing them (ex: BCAAs, glutamine, etc) rather than buying cocktail items like pre/ intra workouts. Just trying to do my body a favor and stay away from all of the artificial dyes and fillers in them since I am already putting enof stress on it from my cycle. My meals will be on point with whole, non-processed foods. Ik for BP reasons I need to keep my stim usage as low as possible, however I don't think I can get out of the bed in the morning without a little caffeine haha. So I'm going to take a little bit P/W but def keep it as low as possible and monitor it. I will keep those along for the ride up to date, thanks again everyone who has helped!
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    Thanks to cycle assist (HB) and CoQ10, my BP has barely increased and I'm almost into my fourth week of an SD/Stano run. Which is pretty amazing considering I'm a smoker and use anywhere from 1/2 to a full scoop of Muscle Marinade (which has 1, 3 in it). I'm only dosing 100mg of CoQ10 daily, which is on the lower end. I'd definitely recommend it if you're planning on using any stims.

    Also, Panasonic makes a pretty accurate BP monitor. Goes for about $40 on Amazon.

    Good luck man! I'm in! You logging it on this thread or starting a new one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aevarts91 View Post
    Thanks to cycle assist (HB) and CoQ10, my BP has barely increased and I'm almost into my fourth week of an SD/Stano run. Which is pretty amazing considering I'm a smoker and use anywhere from 1/2 to a full scoop of Muscle Marinade (which has 1, 3 in it). I'm only dosing 100mg of CoQ10 daily, which is on the lower end. I'd definitely recommend it if you're planning on using any stims.

    Also, Panasonic makes a pretty accurate BP monitor. Goes for about $40 on Amazon.

    Good luck man! I'm in! You logging it on this thread or starting a new one?
    Okay thanks for the info! My cycle assist should keep me good then! I'll be checking mine fairly routinely at my local wal-mart. I've heard of Muscle Marinade but nvr used it, might have to check it out.

    Thanks brutha I'll give it my best! I was planning on logging this one unless consensus is that I should start another.
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    I hear you man, I'm a certified caffeine junkie lol just keep an eye on BP issues. Whenever you walk in a store or supermarket, sit down at one of those free BP machines. They're not accurate enough to use in a hospital or anything but should be plenty good enough for a free monitor.

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeySon View Post
    I hear you man, I'm a certified caffeine junkie lol just keep an eye on BP issues. Whenever you walk in a store or supermarket, sit down at one of those free BP machines. They're not accurate enough to use in a hospital or anything but should be plenty good enough for a free monitor.

    Good luck
    Thanks Joey I'm pretty stoked for this! Glad you can feel me on the caffeine haha life is rough without it. I'll def be hitting those up.
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    Made my weekly grocery trip today. Got the usual muscle meals, lean meats, veggies, etc. Got some extra fruits, mainly bananas as increased potassium was recommended for my cycle.

    Protein consumption has nvr been a problem for me, also done a minimum of 300g and that can go anywhere near 350. So i'll stick to the same concept here with chicken, pork, turkey, fish, eggs, greek yogurt, occasional red meats etc. I'm really trying to limit carbs (not including veggies in this) to only pre and post. This will help fuel me for my lifts and help me replenish glycogen but not give me any excess that will detriment my cut. As for fats I have been trying to increase my intake to get ready for the cycle. I got some almonds, peanut butter, and olive oil to give me some good fats to throw in as it has been recommended I consume fats when taking my anabolics. But yeah I feel like I got all the bases covered both nutritionally and with everything else.

    Tomorrow morning the fun begins!
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    excellent advice from the last two posts and I really like using Coq10 in high doses as well, and if you wanna go the extra mile get folic acid, some odorless garlic and that combo is gonna help out greatly with your heart/circulation/bp. Im a caffeine addict as well hahah, but I know it's tough ppl claim to be to get off it a month before cycle, pppfftttt can't do that and instead I just slowly taper down or use it when I really need to and space it (can of coke, cup of coffee, sips here and there) out so I don't crash through the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinX View Post
    excellent advice from the last two posts and I really like using Coq10 in high doses as well, and if you wanna go the extra mile get folic acid, some odorless garlic and that combo is gonna help out greatly with your heart/circulation/bp. Im a caffeine addict as well hahah, but I know it's tough ppl claim to be to get off it a month before cycle, pppfftttt can't do that and instead I just slowly taper down or use it when I really need to and space it (can of coke, cup of coffee, sips here and there) out so I don't crash through the day.
    Yeah I do not see how thats possible I wouldn't be able to function ha. I'll definitely keep it as low as possible and this sipping sounds smart.
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    Here we go gents, took my pros first thing this morning. My first cycle has begun!

    Day 1


    Started my cycle this morning, just finished up a killer chest/back workout. Will be returning to the gym tonight for some abs/ cardio.

    I will be keeping a log almost every day, and updating my progress with quantitative values every week or so. Here's where I'm starting from:

    Ht: 72.5" (don't plan on that changing since this isn't an HGH cycle haha)
    Wt: 203 lbs
    BF%: 13.1
    Shoulders: 46"
    Chest: 40.5"
    Arms: 14.5"
    Waist: 34.75"
    Thighs: 24"
    Calves: 16"

    Lets hope I can really get that BF and waist size down!!! Wouldn't complain with some added lean mass either!

    Also for those interested here is my full supplementation plan including pros suppt for today and will be continued in the future unless noted otherwise.

    Upon waking/ hr before w/o:
    Halo - 50g
    Stano - 400g
    Fish Oils - 4
    SuperCissus - 3200mg
    BCAAs - 5g
    Taurine - 3g
    Glutamine - 5g
    Arginine - 5g
    Citrulline - 2g
    GPLC - 1.5g
    Creatine HCL - 1.5g
    B Vitamins
    Caffeine - 200mg
    Synephrine - 20mg
    Iso-100 - scoop
    Glyco-Maize - 2/3 scoop

    Intra-Workout:
    BCAAs - 5g

    Post-Workout:
    BCAAs - 5g
    Glutamine - 5g
    Iso-100 - 2 scoops
    Glyco-Maize - 1 scoop

    Mid-Day Meal:
    BCAAs - 10g
    Advanced Cycle Support - 1

    Early Evening/ Hr before w/o (abs and cardio):
    Halo - 25g
    Stano - 200g
    Fish Oils - 2
    Super Cissus - 3200mg
    BCAAs - 5g
    Iso-100 - 1 scoop
    Glyco-Maize - 1/2 scoop

    Post-Workout:
    BCAAs - 5g
    Iso-100 - 2 scoops

    Near Bedtime:
    Advanced Cycle Support - 1
    Casein Protein - 35g
    Glutamine - 5g

    Well there's an overview obviously tentative to change based on my schedule. At the time of this post its about a little over an hr away from my mid-day meal. This week I'll have more time so trying to break it up cardio/abs in the evening so I can really get a metabolic boost.
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    Can't wait to see how this cycle works out for you! What did you decide on the doses?

    Halo 75/75/75/75/75/75/0/0
    Stano 6/6/6/8/8/8/1k/1k

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    Thank you!!

    Halo 25/25/25/25/25/25/x/x
    Stano 600/600/600/600/800/800/1000/1000
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    25!? Why so low?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aevarts91 View Post
    25!? Why so low?
    Sorry I meant 75!!!
    I think i typed that cuz I was thinking of Halo-25, dumb@$$ attack, my bad!
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    Haha no worries man! Just double checking.

    This cycle is extremely well thought out and should give you some awesome results. I spent 3x in support supps than on the PH/DS, looks like you spent the same or more!

    It could have been in one of your earlier posts and I missed it, but what are your planned macros going to look like for the cut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aevarts91 View Post
    Haha no worries man! Just double checking.

    This cycle is extremely well thought out and should give you some awesome results. I spent 3x in support supps than on the PH/DS, looks like you spent the same or more!

    It could have been in one of your earlier posts and I missed it, but what are your planned macros going to look like for the cut?
    Thanks! I've spent alot of time plotting and researching but owe a big thanks to all the help I got from the board, without them it wouldn't have been put together near as well.

    I'll be doing high protein, moderate fats, and low carbs. My protein will be 300-350 range to help with lean mass. Really watching the carbs to help with my cut and will only consume them pre and post (other than veggies). As always I'll be keeping a close track and adjust different macros if need be. Considering this is my first cycle I don't know how my body will react to the anabolics, but I will just feel it out and make whatever adjustments are needed for success.
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    completely agree with aevarts, I've spent 3x in support and pct compared to cycle, but better safe than sorry and I know you got a very good handle on research, putting it all together and now it's time to apply it practically and rip ish up.

    sounds like you're ready to embark upon your new journey, keep us updated along the way and we got ya
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinX View Post
    completely agree with aevarts, I've spent 3x in support and pct compared to cycle, but better safe than sorry and I know you got a very good handle on research, putting it all together and now it's time to apply it practically and rip ish up.

    sounds like you're ready to embark upon your new journey, keep us updated along the way and we got ya
    Yeah def have spent way more on support/ pct. But from the advice I've received it will be well worth the benefits.

    Thanks I'm excited for this stuff to start kicking in!
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    ​Day 2

    Day 1 was a good day. Killed cardio last night after work. Today I have/ will be following the same routine with my ph/support. Did Shoulders/Bis/Tris/Forearms in the gym this morning. Will be going back tonight after work for some abs/ cardio to burn off anything in my stomach before bed. I'm really motivated in my lifts just knowing I'm taking this stuff, can't wait to start feeling the effects haha.

    Figured I'd post my splits just to keep everyone up-to-date:

    Sunday - Chest/Back/Abs/Cardio
    Monday - Shoulders/Biceps/Triceps/Abs/Cardio
    Tuesday - Legs/Abs/Cardio
    Wednesday - Chest/Back/Abs/Cardio
    Thursday - Shoulders/Biceps/Triceps/Abs/Cardio
    Friday - Legs/Abs/Cardio
    Saturday - rest and recover

    When my schedule allows, I will be doing my lifts in the morning then returning to the gym in the evening for abs/cardio to maximize metabolism. This won't always be plausible however and in those cases I will do everything at once. If I feel the need I will take Wed as an off day and start back with chest/back on Thurs. Gotta keep an eye on overtraining. Figure with the phs though my recover time will be alot better.
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    Day 3
    Leg day was nice, quads are already decent size so not really looking to put on a ton of mass on those guys. More or less just harden up and wouldn't complain with strength gains. Calves could use some work though. Drove home to visit family and did some abs/cardio in my basement when I got home at midnight.

    Day 4
    Then I woke up and it was time to do it all over again, chest and back. Did some one-armed pullups cuz I was feelin good haha and noticed slightly more vascularity in chest and shoulders, don't know if these are PH related its prlly too early. Just finished up some bag work for cardio before posting this. Gave abs the night off they've been worked hard this week. Diet has been near perfect, super low carb, feel like I'm starting to lean out already. Really excited to see what the PHs have to offer!
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    Very good stuff so far bro, keep killing it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinX View Post
    Very good stuff so far bro, keep killing it!
    Thanks bro I'm tryin!
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    Day 7
    The end of my first week of PH use is concluding this evening. I was out of town in Chicago the past couple of days so didn't have time to update. Stuck with the same basic schedule for all supps even tho I was on the go. The change obviously made it challenging for me to stick to my diet/training regimen but I'm the type that believes excuses are for *******. Allowed my self one cheat meal the first day I figured if I was gonna do it I might as well while I'm going to be able to have some real good food. Pool at the hotel made for a nice twist to my cardio. Gonna be good to be back in the regular routine of things though.

    As for the PH effect on me I'm not sure what all is real and what all is mental at this point. I do sometimes feel this "who the hell are you looking at?" attitude on occasion and it comes and goes. When something pisses me off I feel a little more rage than usual but generally I'm pretty chill. Libido is def great, almost feel like its higher than before. Excited to see where I go from here. Gonna have bodystats posted in the next day or two.
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    Day 9
    A little over a week in the books, took some measurements this morning to check my progress. These were the only changes:

    Weight: 202 lbs (-1)
    Waist: 34.5" (-.25)

    Had another killer chest/back day last night, tonight will be arms. Had to flip flop things a little based on the schedule but sticking to the same basic format.
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    Day 10

    Still killing it in the gym, diet on point. Had some wack *** dreams last night that might be PH related. Also noticed my piss smelled weird last night, like SinX mentioned would happen.

    As far as strength/size/hardness from the PH, there hasn't been any to speak of so far. Hoping to start seeing something real soon. Also gonna drop calories down even further today to cut more... Ready to crush legs tonight!
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    Day 11

    Also forgot to mention joints have had some mild discomfort the past couple of days, nothing major though. Gonna finish off my bottle of glucosamine/chondroitin, then prlly up my cissus intake after that runs out. Tonight is chest/back. Always stoked for that!
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