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  1.  01-23-2013  01:37 AM
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    SUPERDROL LOG (APN SUPER PRO)


    Superdrol log (apn super pro)
    Hello world,
    This is my first PH that i am running. I am running this solo as such. Here are my stats.
    Age:22 (23 a month from now)
    Weight: 167-175 lbs (scale is acting up im usually 175 but today it said 167)
    Height: 5'10
    I have been working out a few years off and on, during the past 2 years i have taken a little less than 5 months off. (not consecutively)

    starting tomorrow this is what my cycle looks like:

    APN Super Pro (SD! scientific name: 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol , comes in 10mg capsules)
    Kre-Alkalyn Creatine
    Omega-3 Plus
    Animal Pak
    Isolate Matrix (whey)
    Casein Protein

    i will dose everyday at 6am and 4pm 10mg every time for a total of 20mg a day. so im looking at running a 4 week cycle at 20/20/20/20

    For my PCT i will be using (which i have already purchased)

    Clomid (thinking of running it 100/100/50/50 but i am open to suggestions)
    Casein Protien
    Whey Isolate
    Creatine
    Omega 3 Plus
    Animal Pak
    and i was thinking about adding a test booster like p6. I also have a full bottle of Letro in case of emergencies.

    I have spent months researching prohormone use. i understand SD is a designer steroid and the effects that it will/might have on my body, both positive and negative. By purchasing a serm i am hoping to eliminate most of the least desirable side effects (gyno) and maximize retention of my gains.
    I plan on eating like a beast and i am running the exact same cycle with my brother (who is also the same age as I). I will upload before and after pictures at the end of my cycle and at the end of my PCT.

    I am open to all suggestions about my PCT and my on cycle stack. I start tomorrow and will document day by day the effects and results of superdrol.
    LETS GO TO WORK.



  2.  01-23-2013  08:49 AM
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    Since this is your first ph run ad first ride with SD maybe start at 10 mg the first week. Also, you're gonna want something in pct to combat estro as well as cortisol. Test booster as well

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  3.  01-23-2013  09:04 AM
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    Ok. Would you recommend arimidex during pct? And would p6 be a good test? I just took 10mg of SD an hour ago...so don't take any the rest of the day? I thought the point was to keep the anabolic in your system constantly? Wouldn't the half life 'expire' before I take it again tomorrow? Thanks for your help man I appreciate theguidance

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    Day 1

    I took the sd at 6 and 4 as well as all my other supplements as scheduled.
    I felt hot flashes a lot during the day and I sweated a little bit more than usual. I don't know if it was the niacin in the animal pak but I was definitely hotter than usual. Nothing untolerable though. No pain. I went to the gym and it seemed like I could go harder than usual. Maybe just all in my mind. I did wake up twice during the nighteach time a few hours apart but when I woke I felt refreshed not tired.

    Day 2

    My endurance is definitely up. My body, especially my abs, feels a little bit harder. My hammer curls went up 10 pounds. This stuff might be the real deal. I look pretty swole after I hit the gym but nothing more than usual. I haven't checked my weight I still think it is too early. I have been eating like a beast. Heard if u up carbs on cycle you get better gains and feel better. I am excited to see how the rest of the cycle goes. I'm training on a three day split, legs-shoulders/arms/back chest.I've never did a split like that before and I wanted to change it up. I have had no hot flashes or flush feelings today. I did take a thirty minute nap today. When I go to sleep I feel so brand new and not groggy.

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    I don't think animal pak is going to cut it for cycle support.

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    Ill keep a watch. Doing my sd cycle in two weeks.
    "It never gets easier, you just get stronger"

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    Are you not running any cycle/liver support ??

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    Animal pak won't do it? I looked up the things u need to take while on cycle and they were all on the animal pak nutritional ingredients. So which liver support should I take (brand name). Your help and advice is appreciated. Also how will I know if my liver is messed up? Yellow eyes and back pumps right? Do you think I could last until next Friday (when I get paid) without liver support? I know that sounds extreamely irresponsible for my body but this is my first prohormone and I am not a heavy drinker...? Any and all knowledgable opinions are appreciated.

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    AI cycle support covers you in many angles. Nope! Don't start cycle without it, sd is very harsh buddy.
    "It never gets easier, you just get stronger"

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    Tudca or udca for liver support

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    I thought that since sd doesn't aromitize, no ai is needed. I also thought that an ai would be detrimental while running sd...

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    Originally Posted by phxofgrn View Post
    I thought that since sd doesn't aromitize, no ai is needed. I also thought that an ai would be detrimental while running sd...
    Who said to run a AI? Lol. My bad. AI (anabolic innovations) the company for cycle support
    "It never gets easier, you just get stronger"

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    Ahhh roger that. That makes a lot more sense now lol. Will do asap...but I honestly dnt know when that could be. I think I got a week before I could get some, so that's pretty much 12 days on cycle without ai 0_0. That doesn't sound good

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    Originally Posted by phxofgrn View Post
    Ahhh roger that. That makes a lot more sense now lol. Will do asap...but I honestly dnt know when that could be. I think I got a week before I could get some, so that's pretty much 12 days on cycle without ai 0_0. That doesn't sound good
    Nope it doesn't buddy lol. Your suppose to pre load it as well for two weeks. SD is no joke my man. Better be safe than sorry.
    "It never gets easier, you just get stronger"

  15.  01-26-2013  05:52 PM
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    Day 3Did not work out today. No side effects yet to report. Does it hurt to take rest days while on cycle? I don't plan to during day 5-12 because I heard that's when its really starting to kick in.Day 4Went to the gym and did chest and back. Felt EXCELLENT. I could have kept on going. Also, I noticed that my abs are looking a little more defined and my body in general looks like it has a little pump effect to it. But my abs are definitely noticeable. I have heard sd can lean u out. I've been eating pretty good. Chicken breasts for the win. Potatos and eggs, stuff like that. No candy or bs food. I've been taking my whey isolate twice a day and casein before I go to sleep. I think this cycle might be a huge success...now if things keep going like they are, my only concern is keeping these gains. I do have a question... Can I work out more than once a day while on cycle? It just makes me feel so good that I want to go back. Also how long should I be staying in the gym? I usually go from like an hour to an hour and thirty minutes depending on what time of day I go. Usually a little bit over an hour. But I feel like I could go 2 maybe more. I wonder how I will look at the end of cycle...

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    Letro may help suppress gyno if it shows indirectly, but I can't see it being a direct solution. SD gyno is prolactin-based and Letro crushes estrogen. So Cabergoline or Prami might be a safer gyno-fixer should the need arise. Do your research if you get one of these research; sounds like there's more bunk stuff out there from RC sites than legit ones. Prolactrone from BLR is one otc supp that should help prevent it, but if you get gyno I doubt any otc supp is gonna be strong enough to reverse it. At the very least start poppin' some B6 from the local vitamin store or supermarket. L-dopa is even better, but again it won't stand a chance if gyno does arise, just maybe help prevent prolactin accumulation.

    Get on some TUDCA and Himalaya's Liv52 and a good cycle support IMMEDIATELY or get off SD now. And no drinking or ibuprofen/aspirin/etc obv.

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    I understand. I will asap. I know its irresponsible but I'm already in too deep. Also, I have heard from several sources that I would be alright without since its my first cycle that's the whole reason I didn't buy it first. Would omega 3 be considered liver support? And I haven't had any signs of gyno or any other side effect other than hot flashes and waking up in the middle of the night which only happened once. I will read up tho.

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    That's like saying well our housecat has 9 lives so it'll be cool if we just cash out a few and toss it out the second story window since we're too lazy to let it out the door downstairs. It'll survive.

    That's the dumbest bro-logic I've ever heard. Not hating on you, but just asking you to prioritize your health here brother to live to cycle another day. Get on it asap if you continue the cycle. Sdrol is dimethylated and will test your liver hard even with all the suggest supports. They just make it doable. Not easy on you at all.

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    no offense but at your age and the fact that this is your first cycle you made a bad decision using SD, what exacly did you research to lead you to a sub par cycle layout?

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    Originally Posted by phxofgrn View Post
    I understand. I will asap. I know its irresponsible but I'm already in too deep. Also, I have heard from several sources that I would be alright without since its my first cycle that's the whole reason I didn't buy it first. Would omega 3 be considered liver support? And I haven't had any signs of gyno or any other side effect other than hot flashes and waking up in the middle of the night which only happened once. I will read up tho.
    this proves my previous post

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