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    ok so i have 9days left on sd. i started breaking out a little bit on my face but nothing major. still stronger than ever. benched 295today. strength in all lifts is still up and my legs look bigger. so tomorrow imma go get erase to add to my pct. so my pct looks like...
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    is there anything else i need? also dosage for clomid and erase and liver support is needed. thanks guys

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    I would start erase during the third week. Maybe throw in daa also
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    This is my current pct
    Clomid 50/50/25
    Nolva 50/50/25
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    Erase 0/3/2
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    But I'm only running a 3 week pct then starting another cycle.
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    ^sorry buddy but that's a bad pct (meaning to short as well) and at that bad advice especially that your saying you running another cycle after pct? I don't agree with that my man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    ^sorry buddy but that's a bad pct (meaning to short as well) and at that bad advice especially that your saying you running another cycle after pct? I don't agree with that my man.
    It's a very mild cycle that isn't hard on the the liver. That pct was set up by 2 different guys with lots of pct experience. I agree it is a week short but this isn't a pct from sd it's a pct from m-sten RX
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post

    It's a very mild cycle that isn't hard on the the liver. That pct was set up by 2 different guys with lots of pct experience. I agree it is a week short but this isn't a pct from sd it's a pct from m-sten RX
    My bad. Thought it was for SD. Oppps lol. But your going into a cycle right after pct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    My bad. Thought it was for SD. Oppps lol. But your going into a cycle right after pct?
    Ya I got picked to run IMLs 1-Andro RX, and they asked me to start on February 20th. No biggie bro I should've explained what I was coming off of, It was a pretty vague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post

    Ya I got picked to run IMLs 1-Andro RX, and they asked me to start on February 20th. No biggie bro I should've explained what I was coming off of, It was a pretty vague.
    That's cool. It's all good big man. Running it solo? How many weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    That's cool. It's all good big man. Running it solo? How many weeks?
    Ya solo for 4 weeks. If you haven't tried M-Sten RX check it out. I had great results and almost no sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post

    Ya solo for 4 weeks. If you haven't tried M-Sten RX check it out. I had great results and almost no sides.
    That's wassup. Yea I'll def look into it. Right now I'm on SD. Third day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    That's wassup. Yea I'll def look into it. Right now I'm on SD. Third day.
    Cool bro good luck with your run
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post

    Cool bro good luck with your run
    I appreciate it brotha.
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    so the pct above is sufficient for sd??? or is mine ****?
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    I'd throw some d-aspartic acid in at 3g/day like Reggie said, can't hurt. Reggie's is shorter than normal because he's just giving his body a quick reboot 75% or so before he dives into another lil cycle; if he were coming off completely for a bit most ppl would run at least 4wks pct. Some ppl get by fine how he has it anyway tho, everyone's different. But if you're not sure best to be on the safe side.
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    ok. i will pick up daa today too. can you guys give me the dosing for everything?or can i use the dosing posted above? i would really like to run another cycle of something else because this was amazing but i dont want to do it too soon. so i am going to pct for 4weeks. if anyone has any suggestions for another cycle after this one i would love to hear it and how soon i could start after pct
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    ok so today i picked up erase. i will start taking it tomorrow. does it matter when i take it? what time should i take it? so my pct looks like
    clomid
    erase one cap a day
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    omega 3
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    myogenix liver support...
    damn i got to go back to the store i forgot the daa and i need to reup on multi vit. im also going to get a cell volumizer. ****. i totally blanked out now i got to drive back.

    i went to the gym yesterday and my strength is still going up. this stuff is truely incredible.
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    0/0/3/3/2/2/1 run your erase like that. What brand daa do you get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    This is my current pct
    Clomid 50/50/25
    Nolva 50/50/25
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    Dpol 1/1/1
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    But I'm only running a 3 week pct then starting another cycle.
    What do you mean by dpol 1/1/1?That you are using only 1 tablet daily,or 1 dose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack411 View Post

    What do you mean by dpol 1/1/1?That you are using only 1 tablet daily,or 1 dose?
    1 dose 3 pills I guess that was kind of vague
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    Dpol kinda messes with my GI tract
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    1 dose 3 pills I guess that was kind of vague
    Ok,just making sure!I thought you knew better but just looking out in case!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack411 View Post

    Ok,just making sure!I thought you knew better but just looking out in case!
    Haha thanks for looking out brother!! Thinking about doing test powder next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    Haha thanks for looking out brother!! Thinking about doing test powder next time.
    Good product,it gave me some GI issues though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack411 View Post

    Good product,it gave me some GI issues though!
    Eating a meal tends to help but I prefer to workout on an empty stomach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    Eating a meal tends to help but I prefer to workout on an empty stomach.
    I know it does,but it still gave me GI issues where as similar products do not as long as I eat with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack411 View Post

    I know it does,but it still gave me GI issues where as similar products do not as long as I eat with them.
    I was saying eating helps me with the dpol. I don't have much experience with other daa but if it doesn't help with test powder I won't go that route. Any recommendations?
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    allmax daa. its a powder. i just ook one tab of erase just now.its a 30cap bottle. so here is my full and final pct. hope this is good enoug because im broke lol

    clomid 50/50/25/25
    erase 1cap a day for 30days starting today
    daa 1teaspoon a day for 30days in the morning before breakfast starting tomorrow
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    myogenix liver support max serving it says on bottle
    creatine
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    keep eating like i have been and work on intaking even more water.

    is this good with everyone??? i have 5days left on cycle before pct. love my gains. i will put my final results on the thread on the very last day on cycle. i will need even more guidance through pct. im thinking make a part two new thread. i appreciate everyone helping me out. i dont think i would have got this kind of assistance anywhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phxofgrn View Post
    allmax daa. its a powder. i just ook one tab of erase just now.its a 30cap bottle. so here is my full and final pct. hope this is good enoug because im broke lol

    clomid 50/50/25/25
    erase 1cap a day for 30days starting today
    daa 1teaspoon a day for 30days in the morning before breakfast starting tomorrow
    animal pak multi vit
    omega 3
    myogenix liver support max serving it says on bottle
    creatine
    whey isolate
    casein

    keep eating like i have been and work on intaking even more water.

    is this good with everyone??? i have 5days left on cycle before pct. love my gains. i will put my final results on the thread on the very last day on cycle. i will need even more guidance through pct. im thinking make a part two new thread. i appreciate everyone helping me out. i dont think i would have got this kind of assistance anywhere else.
    Keep Clomid at 50 every day.

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    0/0/3/3/2/1

    DAA 3g a day for 6 weeks , not just a month...

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    Clomid can be run a lot of different ways, like anything else it depends on end user. I agree w/ Celorza though, sdrol is suppressive and 50/50/50/50 is a pretty tried and true dosing.

    I like Erase at 1/2/3/3/2/1 with Clomid as estro rebound is faster off a short oral cycle without a test base and Nolva/Torem isn't being used here (which are more potent SERMs but inferior hpta stimulation). Just how I'd run it.

    D-aspartic is cheap and can be run for 2 months if you like even but 4 wks is prob sufficient. I like LGI's cuz it's a 45 day supply of pills for dirt cheap; Nutra has the cheapest powder.
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    so i should start taking erase tomorrow at 1cap a day for a week? or should i starrrt it after i finish my sd?
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    and i heard if you use nolva for sd pct then u will get rebound gyno bad. is there any truth to that? this is why i went with clomid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phxofgrn View Post
    so i should start taking erase tomorrow at 1cap a day for a week? or should i starrrt it after i finish my sd?
    The day after sd is fine.

    Not sure on the Nolva issue but I've only ran Clomid/Erase/DAA based pcts so far w/ various t boosters and they've all worked great. If Clomid works for you I'd stay with it as your SERM unless you were using an aromatizing compound that also wasn't a progestin.
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    and why no running on cycle? i dont have a problem with it but how could that hurt me during pct?
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    ok. i will take it starting then. i took one cap today because i heard it makes your pct go faster...? i heard it twice, the second time was from my supplement guy. he said it makes my natural test come back sooner
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    Quote Originally Posted by phxofgrn View Post
    ok. i will take it starting then. i took one cap today because i heard it makes your pct go faster...? i heard it twice, the second time was from my supplement guy. he said it makes my natural test come back sooner
    Your natural t production isn't going to begin to return as long as there's an exogenous source of hormones (sdrol) in the body. Ppl running erase on cycle are using it as a means of curbing bloat and/or gyno issues. DAA is sometimes begun before cycle ends since it takes time to build in the body to efficacious levels. I never do this with DAA fwiw. But smoke it if you got it right?

    Don't believe everything the guy at the supp shop says. My local supp guy is cool as hell, and he recommends a steroidal compound (Gonadz) for an otc pct all the time to ppl. Just shuttin ppl down harder. He doesn't know jack about cycling, really. Awesome guy, but he's out to make money. He doesn't bother to learn about what he's selling, he just has to sell it.
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    ok. i will start daa tomorrow. yea i know what you mean too about salesmanship. i research everything now. i researched sd and other ph/ds supps too but i didnt really understand the entire process until i did this cycle. still learning too.
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    ok so i have two days on sd left starting tomorrow. i went to the gym well rested but a little hungry and i was disapointed. i couldnt lift 295to save my life. it kinda scared me. i could take it off the rack but pushing it up was impossible. this is my chest day btw...i tried to lift 305at first because i did 295so easily last time i did chest. i could rep out 9 of 225but 295was owning me. i dont know im really bummed out by this, i know lifting your max is not the highlight of going to the gym but i really thought i was going to hit a new personal best. anyone have an idea of why this happened? because i was hungry? i dont know...my brother hit 305which is his max like how i had hit 295 last week. need some guidance...it scares me a little to think all this strength could just fly away like that...my brother says it might just have been a bad day, but a bad day on SD??? i didnt think that was possible
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    Drugs aren't the same thing as magic pills brother; there could be a lot that could have went wrong. A max effort lift is just that...meaning if every star doesn't align and 100% isn't there it ain't happenin'. Haven't you already put like 20lbs on your max bench in 4 wks? Why go for 305 when you've yet to try 300? 5lbs in a week would still be brutal strength gains on flat bench. My bench hasn't broke 275 in a longer period of time than I care to admit.
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    5'10"  182 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    58
    Rep Power
    1003
    Level
    7
    Lv. Percent
    7.57%

    eh idk. but your right. ive still made good gains. it will come in time. i will work hard and try to maintain as much of my gains as possible. either way im still bigger and stronger than before which is the entire point - progress.
  40. New Member
    phxofgrn's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  182 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    58
    Rep Power
    1003
    Level
    7
    Lv. Percent
    7.57%

    final results!!!!!
    i weigh 182.6and thats up from 167.
    mt lifts have increased in every exercise and endurance is through the roof. i start my pct tomorrow. some side effects from sd that i have just not incurred within the past two days is a little acne on my chest, back pumps when im not in the gym and these horrible splitting leg pains. i cant walk long distances without it hurting. but this just started and my cycle is over. i have incredible and visible gains. my before and after pictures are really amazing. such a long way ive come all with sd and training. i would definitely like to thank you all (someone pm me on how to rep everyone because bi will do it if i can) i found that i cant post pictures because i havent made enough posts yet. but really guys your advice guided me through this cycle with my health intact and my liver still working lol. i am definitely happy with my gains and will continue to train hard during and after pct. i also love this site and will remain active during my pct and afterwards. i can definitely say the advice i have recieved on this site has been better than any other forum on the net. its like having a bunch of nutritionists and personal trainers a click away. so im gonna browse the forum i will see u guys around....oh and everyone please chedck out my pct log that im going to make right now. its not over yet....LETS GET TO WORK
  

  
 

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