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    Is there fenugreek in either of those two? Will definitely cause syrup smells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinggrommet
    Is there fenugreek in either of those two? Will definitely cause syrup smells.
    One of the main actives in slintensity.. 80% 4-OH isoleucine (from fenugreek) ---45mg

    This must be a serious extract!!!! Im one pungent smelling mr buttersworth
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga

    One of the main actives in slintensity.. 80% 4-OH isoleucine (from fenugreek) ---45mg

    This must be a serious extract!!!! Im one pungent smelling mr buttersworth
    That's def it buddy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinggrommet

    That's def it buddy!
    Thank you sir. Big help! Needed reassurance, read a bunch of threads/answer/questions on google pointing towards fenugreek as well! Needed a fellow bro to validate lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga

    Thank you sir. Big help! Needed reassurance, read a bunch of threads/answer/questions on google pointing towards fenugreek as well! Needed a fellow bro to validate lol
    No problem, glad to help.
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    11/27/12

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    Breakfast
    255g taters o'brien
    3 whole jumbo eggs
    12 oz milk

    Snack
    Colby jack cheese

    Lunch
    6oz ribeye
    56g stuffing

    Snack
    Colbyjack cheese (two sticks)

    Post workout
    1 scoop glycomyx
    1 scoop protein
    5g creatine
    5g leucine
    5g glutamine

    Postworkout meal
    235g chipolte pasta
    4oz chicken

    Snack
    Mozzarella cheese (two sticks)
    2 tbsp pb

    Prebed
    8oz milk

    Thats the last time im posting my meals lol you all see i nail calories. No need to fill my log up with my daily food consumption. I will continue to put my kcalories up though.

    Ok now ill post my workout..

    Db one arm rear delt- 15x10 25x10x3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine
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    You had some awesome progress with osta, i saw your thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga

    Welcome!

    You had some awesome progress with osta, i saw your thread.
    Thanks man. I'm interested in this thread for sure. Osta is the truth no doubt and my next stack will be with the S4 as I have not tried it yet.

    I'm starting my 2nd run sometime next week and I have included a topical test booster this time.

    Any sides from the S4?
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    lol op is bulking on stuffing too. isnt that the greatest carb right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderHumper
    lol op is bulking on stuffing too. isnt that the greatest carb right now?
    Bro, ty has stuffing with every other meal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine

    Thanks man. I'm interested in this thread for sure. Osta is the truth no doubt and my next stack will be with the S4 as I have not tried it yet.

    I'm starting my 2nd run sometime next week and I have included a topical test booster this time.

    Any sides from the S4?
    Yea, trouble with my adjusting from light to dark. Ive went as has as 75mg before and as low as 25mg in previous runs. And, the mg made no difference in when the vision side kicked in. 30mg seems to give me the muscle hardness, so i decided to go with that mg again.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderHumper
    lol op is bulking on stuffing too. isnt that the greatest carb right now?
    Hell yea. Chicken flavor lol
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    Bro, ty has stuffing with every other meal
    Yessir
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    Tyga what's your PCT look like with this stack? Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine
    Tyga what's your PCT look like with this stack? Just curious.
    SARMs require pct? I thought the suppression was mild, if at all present.
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    I think osta dosed over 20mg can be mildy suppresive not serm required supressive tho. This isnt facts just broscience tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick

    SARMs require pct? I thought the suppression was mild, if at all present.
    I'm asking because above 20mg you might experience a little suppression... S4 I'm almost positive is suppressive. Then throwing the topical in on top of that, I would think so...PCT that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4
    I think osta dosed over 20mg can be mildy suppresive not serm required supressive tho. This isnt facts just broscience tho
    Agreed. Maybe a SERM in this particular stack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine

    Agreed. Maybe a SERM in this particular stack?
    I wouldn't assume a SERM would be needed. If the suppression is as mild as I suspect ( and as you guys are leading me to believe) then ITC should work fine...

    That's just a guess though, my understanding of SARMs is limited as they don't interest me as much as other compounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    I wouldn't assume a SERM would be needed. If the suppression is as mild as I suspect ( and as you guys are leading me to believe) then ITC should work fine...

    That's just a guess though, my understanding of SARMs is limited as they don't interest me as much as other compounds.
    From my experience it really depends on how high a dosage you run.
    My personal experience with it was great the first week in strength, pumps, and joint relief. Really quite outstanding that first week. Then a gradual decrease untill by week 3 I felt sub-par from my "normal". So I stopped, got on anabeta and within three day was back to normal.
    Personally I don't think I will run Sarms again. I am going to follow this thread though because of the great way I felt in that first week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thills

    From my experience it really depends on how high a dosage you run.
    My personal experience with it was great the first week in strength, pumps, and joint relief. Really quite outstanding that first week. Then a gradual decrease untill by week 3 I felt sub-par from my "normal". So I stopped, got on anabeta and within three day was back to normal.
    Personally I don't think I will run Sarms again. I am going to follow this thread though because of the great way I felt in that first week.
    My experience was the polar opposite. It didn't kick in till week two and I dropped about 5-6% body fat conservatively in 8 weeks. I got strong and built some great lean body mass. I was actually quite amazed at how much my body comp changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine View Post
    My experience was the polar opposite. It didn't kick in till week two and I dropped about 5-6% body fat conservatively in 8 weeks. I got strong and built some great lean body mass. I was actually quite amazed at how much my body comp changed.
    That is wild. The compound most certainly has my attention. Did you notice a dip when coming off, or take anything else while on it. After that first week my t was in the tank, strength down, workouts poor. It was actually dissapointing because like I said that first was amazing, but I am am one of those that feel any substance right away, my system if very sensitive in that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thills

    That is wild. The compound most certainly has my attention. Did you notice a dip when coming off, or take anything else while on it. After that first week my t was in the tank, strength down, workouts poor. It was actually dissapointing because like I said that first was amazing, but I am am one of those that feel any substance right away, my system if very sensitive in that way.
    Right around the last week I noticed I had plateaued and libido was down a bit. The highest I went was 18mg the last couple of weeks. But as soon as I started PCT I was straight.

    I took DAA with the Osta and support supps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine
    Tyga what's your PCT look like with this stack? Just curious.
    Havent decided yet honestly. I wont go a serm route though, ive ran a similar cycle and used DAA and testopro and "felt fine" obviously no bloods to prove it.
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick

    SARMs require pct? I thought the suppression was mild, if at all present.
    S4 is what id watch out for. Its suppressive period.

    Im using the bromo to offset any estrogen raise the osta may cause. Ill probably go with endosurge and daa as my "pct" no serm, personally think thats overkill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine

    I'm asking because above 20mg you might experience a little suppression... S4 I'm almost positive is suppressive. Then throwing the topical in on top of that, I would think so...PCT that is.
    Topical or transdermal formestane isnt suppressive at the dose i was doing, you have to get formestane relatively HIGH before it becomes 4-hydroxy test and suppressive. (If i remember correctly)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga

    Topical or transdermal formestane isnt suppressive at the dose i was doing, you have to get formestane relatively HIGH before it becomes 4-hydroxy test and suppressive. (If i remember correctly)
    Tyga is a AI nessessary in my scenario running Rs Transaderm and Osta?

    Or is the Chrysin, benzo and resveratrol ingredients in the transaderm enough to battle the slight increase in estrogen the Osta will cause above and beyond the Transaderm itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine

    Tyga is a AI nessessary in my scenario running Rs Transaderm and Osta?

    Or is the Chrysin, benzo and resveratrol ingredients in the transaderm enough to battle the slight increase in estrogen the Osta will cause above and beyond the Transaderm itself?
    Youll be fine. You paid all that $$ for transderm?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga

    Youll be fine. You paid all that $$ for transderm?!
    Lol...some else said that. All the reviews said this was the best. Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine

    Lol...some else said that. All the reviews said this was the best. Haha
    Lol nate jacks the prices wayyyy up on his RLS line. BPS dermacrine the exact same but a lot more price friendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga

    Lol nate jacks the prices wayyyy up on his RLS line. BPS dermacrine the exact same but a lot more price friendly.
    Good to know. Dermacrine from what I read doesn't absorb at all and stays greasy on your skin all day and the other goes away some what. Also it's 60 days worth instead of 30.

    Ill take you word for it though and go the other route if i like the results this first go around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine

    Good to know. Dermacrine from what I read doesn't absorb at all and stays greasy on your skin all day and the other goes away some what. Also it's 60 days worth instead of 30.

    Ill take you word for it though and go the other route if i like the results this first go around.
    That was the old dermacrine BPS has a NEW carrier, it's gel just like transderm.

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