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    How often do you dead heavy?

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    Well that is not a simple question to answer lol . . . I do a 4 week progression so once a month but it goes like this . .

    Week one: 3x8
    Week two: 3x5
    Week three 3x8
    Week four: 3x3

    and today was to be 3x5 but UGH!!!! not happening . . . 340 felt like my MAX at a competition . . just a bit lazy today its raining and ugly outside but on a positive note the rest of the workout is going great
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    Yawn and morning everyone . . . well it the fun day in The Pit . . Arm Day . . but first I'll do a quick update.

    OK so this week I upped my cals a bit, another 500 so I'm eating like a mofo lol . . I feel good and people are talking at work so maybe its working.

    My body is adjusting to the increase cals with a slight bloat but maybe its in my head as my BF is still exactly the same and I'm up a total of 4 pounds.

    Still no strength increase . .

    No side that I can speak of and my boys still seem full and I have nooo problem wanting to do the do with the GF

    I know it should matter what time you take your PH but I may try and take it during one of my piss breaks during the night say like at 7 AM with my usually fish oil to see if it helps at all during my workouts . . . I know your supposed to take it with food but so I'm reluctant to do this but it is a thought because now I only have 2 hours after I pop the PH before I do my training.

    Still getting great pumps so that department is great . . . and if I ever get even the slightest head ache and its more like a quick ping its usually close to a feeding and more from hunger than any BP issue or side so no worries but I check my BP every week and last week it was lower than it was before I started the cycle lol.

    so for now that is about it . . oh wait:

    My current cals are at 5100 and gosh that is a ton of food and for those following my breakfast issues lol . . I now have a smoothie:

    1 scoop protein
    half a banana
    yogurt
    oats
    peanut butter
    taurine
    flax seed oil
    egg whites

    and MAN its yummy!!!!!!

    Again for this cycle if needed I'll allow myself to clip at 14 so a 2% increase in BF during the cycle and then cut after. . .keep in mind that I am an old school powerlifter and have no problems taking my BF high like into the 18 - 20 % range Off Season then cutting for a competition but for this cycle my limit will be 14% tops.

    OK time to do the do . . .training that is . . .not the other lol
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    OK well after a totally crap leg workout yesterday I came back with a totally amazing, freaky pump chest workout . . when I flexed my chest it was like a second ass on my chest lol . . I had no neck and shoulders were nice and full . . . still ZIP increase for strength but again this is OK as I want more mass and at the end of week 2 I'm sitting at 5 pounds so I'm happy.

    I still don't have any sides that I know of . . I thought I was getting back pumps last night BUT since my squats didn't go well I did this high rep thing that I do and it always kills my lower back later on. . . remember powerlifters go allllllll the way down pick up a marble with our ass and the go back up lol . . so I'm sure that is what it was but if not . . . I'll up my Taurine but for now 3 g is doing fine.

    Oh and today during chest I notice some new veins trying to pop out lower on my pecs to this was cool.

    I was taking a lot of phsylium husk (yup spelled wrong lol) with my diet but I found it was bloating me a bit so I cut back and all is fine now and no more bloat.

    Well other than that all is good
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    Quote Originally Posted by j05441 View Post
    Scale wise i only gain 3 but i was much leaner and stronger. Not as strong as on cycle but stronger than before forsure. Mirror is where it counts anyway.
    Exactly
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    Excellent log bro. I am plotting my first ever cyle with Halodrol after 14 years natural training. That's a boatload of cals for your height/weight. Im the same way though, and I expect to be downing mass quantities of clean cals at cycle time. I know it's still early in cycle, but no cosmetic sides to report?
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    Ok first let me say I like the mirror as well except after a cold shower lol!!!

    Thanks for the log complement. Like I said changed a few things from the original diet pill popping schedule but all is good at 4800 cals a day currently and all clean except on the weekend??

    As for side nope nada! But when I start filling glasses with milk I'll let u know.

    As for natural lifting. I'm with u on that but have u beat in the years clean department??
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    MASS MONKEY SPEAKS OUT . . MY THREAD . . MY FEELINGS . . TY if anyone reads the whole thing

    OK so Saturday is my official weigh in day . . . drum roll please . . . HuYeah Baby 163 and before preload I was 156.6 so I'm happy.

    Now last night I had my usual insomnia but then finally got to sleep and OMG my allergies kicked in full throttle at 7:30AM and I have been suffering ever since. . .if this keeps up I will have to break down and take something . . grrr!

    So as I suffer here, my original plan was to do a quick leg workout seeing I didn't really do one this week . . well sort of . . unless I kill myself in the rack I don't feel like I did legs . . its a PL thing however based on the way I feel right now with my allergies I'm thinking NOT.

    SO . . I have a theory on some of the side that people get from PH's in general so my thread my feelings right so here it is . .

    1. Lethargic I think comes from peoples general addiction to caffeine so when they cut it out during the cycle they go into withdrawals making them lazy and giving them a headache . . . so my suggestion cut all caffeine out one month prior to cycle . . you will find your lazy and in general lethargic and will get headaches on and off but once you detox yourself all is good and cycle hopefully will be fine.

    Now before someone chimes in and educates me on lethargic is cause by low test and all that. . yup this is true but to some extent we all have a caffeine addiction and even cutting out one coffee can make a difference and you will feel it.

    2. Diet: You should get your base caloric intake before you start your cycle . . . so again start one month prior and stick with a diet at say 3000 cals if you find your maintaining your body weight without fat gain after 1-2 weeks then up it by 500 for another 1-2 weeks. Once you find the caloric intake that starts to put weight on and maybe a slight amount of fat then use this as your SET POINT. Once you start your cycle add 1000 cals to THAT set point. You should not have to make huge changes to your diet during cycle if you have everything in place prior to cycle

    I suggest using something like MyFitnessPal to track everything and if anyone wants to see my exact diet add me . . PM me and I'll give you my name.

    3. I also feel that some of the side that people get are directly related to there poor diet. Sorry people but many of you THINK you have your diet down and probably don't. Not trying to piss anyone off here just saying. When you actually start to really track and I mean really track your diet you find that your macro are not as good or where you thought they were. . . so get your diet in place first!!! This is the number one thing all the crap in the world will not amount to poop if your not eating enough of the right food at the right times.

    4. I will not go into training as it is not a side but if your not training enough to grow then you shouldn't cycle . . .I see pics on this site and see what they are doing and think . . REALLY? you could do so much more if you had the drive, training, and diet to get you to the next level yet you take the short cut and cycle . . oh well . . to each there own . . AGAIN!!! NOT TRYING TO PISS ANYONE ONE OFF only saying do all you can FIRST before cycling.

    Well I think that is all I want to say for today . . .and if anyone actually reads this let me give you a bit of a back ground on myself case you miss it at the beginning of my thread. . . Yup NO PRO to the darkside this is true but I have came a long way with my research but stuff like training and diet I feel very confident speaking on as I'm not new to the iron game or competitions. I do personal training on the side and my clients all make gains and reach there goals so I must be doing something right lol . . and as for lifting I started way to young as I knew I was NOT going to grow and everyone picked on me so I started working out when I was 13 as my dad was a cop and a large man. I did my first PL competition at 25 and even though I had some MAJOR health problems and left the platform for years I never stopped training (well except during my health issues) but the point I want to make is this I have been training for 30 years and have had the pleasure of training with some of the top athletes in the world and even a few pro BB's and YUP I'm only 163 but remember I competed and was locked into a weight class so even off season I couldn't go to far above my competitive weight . . so for now my goal is 180 and I give myself a year to do that . . ok I have yapped long enough and I'm sure everyone has long since clicked off my thread but its shower time . . today will NOT be an extra day of training . . I usually rest today and rest I shall and dye of allergies . . TY if anyone actually read this whole thing . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass Monkey View Post
    MASS MONKEY SPEAKS OUT . . MY THREAD . . MY FEELINGS . . TY if anyone reads the whole thing

    OK so Saturday is my official weigh in day . . . drum roll please . . . HuYeah Baby 163 and before preload I was 156.6 so I'm happy.

    Now last night I had my usual insomnia but then finally got to sleep and OMG my allergies kicked in full throttle at 7:30AM and I have been suffering ever since. . .if this keeps up I will have to break down and take something . . grrr!





    So as I suffer here, my original plan was to do a quick leg workout seeing I didn't really do one this week . . well sort of . . unless I kill myself in the rack I don't feel like I did legs . . its a PL thing however based on the way I feel right now with my allergies I'm thinking NOT.

    SO . . I have a theory on some of the side that people get from PH's in general so my thread my feelings right so here it is . .

    1. Lethargic I think comes from peoples general addiction to caffeine so when they cut it out during the cycle they go into withdrawals making them lazy and giving them a headache . . . so my suggestion cut all caffeine out one month prior to cycle . . you will find your lazy and in general lethargic and will get headaches on and off but once you detox yourself all is good and cycle hopefully will be fine.

    Now before someone chimes in and educates me on lethargic is cause by low test and all that. . yup this is true but to some extent we all have a caffeine addiction and even cutting out one coffee can make a difference and you will feel it.

    2. Diet: You should get your base caloric intake before you start your cycle . . . so again start one month prior and stick with a diet at say 3000 cals if you find your maintaining your body weight without fat gain after 1-2 weeks then up it by 500 for another 1-2 weeks. Once you find the caloric intake that starts to put weight on and maybe a slight amount of fat then use this as your SET POINT. Once you start your cycle add 1000 cals to THAT set point. You should not have to make huge changes to your diet during cycle if you have everything in place prior to cycle

    I suggest using something like MyFitnessPal to track everything and if anyone wants to see my exact diet add me . . PM me and I'll give you my name.

    3. I also feel that some of the side that people get are directly related to there poor diet. Sorry people but many of you THINK you have your diet down and probably don't. Not trying to piss anyone off here just saying. When you actually start to really track and I mean really track your diet you find that your macro are not as good or where you thought they were. . . so get your diet in place first!!! This is the number one thing all the crap in the world will not amount to poop if your not eating enough of the right food at the right times.

    4. I will not go into training as it is not a side but if your not training enough to grow then you shouldn't cycle . . .I see pics on this site and see what they are doing and think . . REALLY? you could do so much more if you had the drive, training, and diet to get you to the next level yet you take the short cut and cycle . . oh well . . to each there own . . AGAIN!!! NOT TRYING TO PISS ANYONE ONE OFF only saying do all you can FIRST before cycling.

    Well I think that is all I want to say for today . . .and if anyone actually reads this let me give you a bit of a back ground on myself case you miss it at the beginning of my thread. . . Yup NO PRO to the darkside this is true but I have came a long way with my research but stuff like training and diet I feel very confident speaking on as I'm not new to the iron game or competitions. I do personal training on the side and my clients all make gains and reach there goals so I must be doing something right lol . . and as for lifting I started way to young as I knew I was NOT going to grow and everyone picked on me so I started working out when I was 13 as my dad was a cop and a large man. I did my first PL competition at 25 and even though I had some MAJOR health problems and left the platform for years I never stopped training (well except during my health issues) but the point I want to make is this I have been training for 30 years and have had the pleasure of training with some of the top athletes in the world and even a few pro BB's and YUP I'm only 163 but remember I competed and was locked into a weight class so even off season I couldn't go to far above my competitive weight . . so for now my goal is 180 and I give myself a year to do that . . ok I have yapped long enough and I'm sure everyone has long since clicked off my thread but its shower time . . today will NOT be an extra day of training . . I usually rest today and rest I shall and dye of allergies . . TY if anyone actually read this whole thing . .
    Interesting observations/opinions on the sides ordeal. I usually pop caffeine tabs preworkout; just 100-150 mg. I will omit these come the time. I was thinking about staying on creatine during cycle, but I don't know. I mean, if I'm going to take a DS, what the heck do I need creatine for?! lol... I'm just so use to it.
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    Lol this is true but save creatine for PCT. your boys will enjoy the treat
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    BTW I miss my caff tabs and coffee pre-workout and my energy drink on weekend??

    I tell u for like 2 weeks I was so lazy in the morning. The only thing that woke me up was the fact that I was pissed about no caff tab????

    Caff has always done it for me and on the rare times I used Jack 3D it was crazy. I only used one scoop but geez! I would bounce off the walls.

    So they say about a month after the cycle u go into the dumps and get lazy. I'll bring out good old Jack with my caff tabs and should rock the world.

    If nothing else I'll b like that commercial where the Ultimate Warrior bursts threw the wall and yells "did I hear someone say they were hungry?" hmm? Did I just date myself??grr! Should have used the cat commercial where they shake the bag of treats and the cat come running through the wall.

    Not much going on just a typical weekend of over eating with the GF and kids. OMG the blueberry cheesecake last night was amazing.

    Checked BP and it was up just a tab from my normal 120/80 so it was 128/82. I'm sure it was just because I was hungry as I forgot to bring food when we went shopping. However, if need b I'll add some extra hawthorn berry to my supports next week.

    No Mr. Winky ???issues either last night?hit a few home runs with the GF one off the couch watching Resident Evil After Life then another later on. It was slow at first but OMG!! When the cannon fired dear mother of God?????I almost had a heart attack!! My girl was like, u ok? I was like SHHH! I'm in my happy place???

    Ok well back to my bulking mini cycle for the weekend. BBQ chicken later. Yum yum got ya get sum GF just woke up lol!!!!! And u thought I was talking about the chicken??
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    Well just a quick update before I head off to bed . . . so today's weigh in was up yet again so I'm sitting at a nice and pumped 165.8 and starting to lean out and get a bit more vascular. I checked my BP a few times and it was up 131/84 so just to make sure it goes back down or if nothing else stays were it is I'll be adding 2 caps (total) of Hawthorn Berry to my normal support feedings a day and I'll check it in a few days. . . I feel fine so overall I'm not concerned or worried. . . Looking forward to starting Week #3 tomorrow and this is the week its supposed to kick in so lets see what happens.
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    Well so far Week 3 is going well . . had a slight strength increase on bench yesterday but nothing to write home about but I got an extra 5 reps over 3 sets on bench so I was happy but OMG if I thought the pumps were good last week then this week its freaky crazy.

    The people at work are really starting to wonder what I'm doing or on . . like I said before being short we look bigger than we actually are and a good solid 9 pounds in 3 weeks is well . . hard to hide in my work uniform but I must say Sunday when I was out shopping I just looked good! lol

    My GF complained that my chest is like stone now and hurts her back when we spoon lol . . I just said wait till end of cycle.

    So I had to add some hawthorn berry to my supports as my BP is still up in and around 133/85 HOWEVER!!!! and I can't believe this after all my research I did but I think I needed to pick up HB extract NOT just the berry . . .. grrr! I have posted another thread to get some clarification on this but for now I am using it till I find out otherwise. . . so if anyone reading this thread knows the answer please let me know. . . I'm using Now HB along with as listed above Cycle Assist witch has HB Extract.

    So other than that nothing bad to report.

    It was a hard day of back but overall a good workout. . . Like I said I'm not getting any strength off this cycle yet but mass is what I wanted and so far its what I'm getting . . .now I'm sure its just water weight but I look good and solid and not smooth and bloated so eh who knows maybe its actual mass only time will tell my goal is 7 pounds that I walk away with.

    Thanks to any and all who read my thread
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    UPDATE TIME

    OK My computer is slowly dying so I have not been on here to update but my new one comes on Monday, thank God.

    So here is the latest update for all following.

    My weight is still sitting at 165 so I'm happy . . strength is still zip increase but man do I look massive so I am super happy.

    NOW the only side to speak of is the elevated BP . . still in and around 135/89 first thing in the morning so I'm not very happy about that. I increase my HB but starting today I'll split it up throughout the day taking one with my PH then my normal supports 5 hours later so this will give me 4 does of BP lowering agents throughout the day . . If I have to cut my cycle because of my BP I will NOT be happy at all (lol who would?) as the cycle is going amazing!!!

    As for my sex drive the big test will be this weekend as the boys will be doing over time as its my 2 year anniversary and the kids are gone so God help me if he doesn't do the do as my GF will kill me!!! . . I think I'll take some meca, zinc and who knows what else to make sure lol

    CORRECTION my new computer just arrived . . will hook that up over the weekend . . life is getting better even if my BP is up ):

    No other side or anything else to report . . well off to do some legs . . changing my leg routine a bit and doing a high rep program for a bit.

    Thanks to everyone that reads and responds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass Monkey View Post
    UPDATE TIME

    OK My computer is slowly dying so I have not been on here to update but my new one comes on Monday, thank God.

    So here is the latest update for all following.

    My weight is still sitting at 165 so I'm happy . . strength is still zip increase but man do I look massive so I am super happy.

    NOW the only side to speak of is the elevated BP . . still in and around 135/89 first thing in the morning so I'm not very happy about that. I increase my HB but starting today I'll split it up throughout the day taking one with my PH then my normal supports 5 hours later so this will give me 4 does of BP lowering agents throughout the day . . If I have to cut my cycle because of my BP I will NOT be happy at all (lol who would?) as the cycle is going amazing!!!

    As for my sex drive the big test will be this weekend as the boys will be doing over time as its my 2 year anniversary and the kids are gone so God help me if he doesn't do the do as my GF will kill me!!! . . I think I'll take some meca, zinc and who knows what else to make sure lol

    CORRECTION my new computer just arrived . . will hook that up over the weekend . . life is getting better even if my BP is up ):

    No other side or anything else to report . . well off to do some legs . . changing my leg routine a bit and doing a high rep program for a bit.

    Thanks to everyone that reads and responds
    BP at 135/89 is not high bro. Yeah, it's teetering on the high end, but really it's not that bad. I would just finish the cycle regardless. BP will return to normal anyways upon cessation of use
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    Yeah I know just a little freaky as its never been up.

    I really wanted to up it to 100 the last 2 weeks but I think if it doesn't drop by splitting the HB throughout the day I'll stay at 75 and make adjustments next cycle

    But other than that. It's great. EVERYONE is talking at work. Slowly running out of excuses lol so I lie and say I have a competition coming up lol

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    MASS MONKEY HITS 9 POUNDS!!!!!!

    That's right people today's official weight is up 9 pounds and my night time weight is 7 pounds on top of that so 165.6 morning / 172 at night!!!

    Still ZIP for strength increase but the pumps get freakier everyday . . . so looking forward to chest today.

    The only side like I said is my elevated BP but I feel much better since I started splitting the does up throughout the day. . will check it again tomorrow and I'll wait and relax 5 minutes before I take the reading.

    No morning wood to really speak of but I started taking Meca and zinc so lets see if that helps. . .anniversary this weekend so he will be pulling OT so anything and everything will help lol

    Diet as you can see is going great. Might do a dirty bulk next week just to shake things up then back to my clean diet. Craving some hamburgers lol.

    I still feel very calm on cycle . . I usually have a short fuse but now, not so much.

    Oh and my BF is still exactly the same for those thinking the weight is fat . . nope! I'm all jacked up and looking good . . I'm telling people at work now I have a competition it shuts them up but man are they talking . . I feel uncomfortable in my shirts so I think I'll pick up a large as my normal medium is well . . just to tight.

    Well time to wash up and hit the gym . . have a great weekend all and remember EAT!!! I treat the weekend like a carb up lol
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    As for my big anniversary weekend and calling on the boys to do some major overtime next cycle I'll pick up some dermacrine to help them out.

    But for now I'll try the above and hope for the best.

    If not anyone want to step up and pitch hit for Mass Monkey if needed? (totally joking and having fun) but she is 5'4" Latina 104 pounds and totally crazy in the poll position lol

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    Week #4 Let the magic begin . . .

    So this is when the magic is supposed to begin so God help me because so far the journey has been outstanding!!!! I hit 10 pounds today and so far the BF is staying about the same . . smoothed out by days end but this is to be expected from all the cals and water I take in during the day.

    So I have NO complaints thus far for the MASS I was seeking . . so if anymore magic is to come then I guess this will be the week it happens for strength . . I honestly doubt I'll gain much more IF ANY over the next 3 weeks . . I mean really its ONLY H-Drol people but so far say what you will but the proof is in the pudding . . now I know I will lose some of it during the PCT but for now I'm enjoying the MASS.

    Now if anyone actually reads my silly posts and is following my big weekend well . . it went to total crap!!! Got into it with the GF at dinner of all places over family BS and OMG it went from there and well if I wasn't in the mood you would never know becasue the meca I started taking was telling me I was ready willing and able . . again say what you will but I have not had morning wood in about 2 weeks and well swing! and my balls feel bigger so eh I think its doing something so I'll be taking 3 caps a day . . if nothing else it makes me mentally feel better lol

    So like I said the weekend was total crap, whatever could go wrong did go wrong so I'm actually glad to see Monday come.

    I'll be reducing my carbs a bit this week and doing a bit of a dirty protein bulk just to shake it up a bit.

    BP is still about the same but I feel better by splitting it up throughout the day.

    Went to dinner with the family tonight . . UGH! there was another disaster but OMG they were like WTF! you look huge . . I just said lol new diet.

    Well that is about it . . off to bed then chest tomorrow so all should be good.
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    WELL LETS TRY THIS AGAIN . . . .Week #4 has not started off so good . . .huge family issue over the weekend and then a huge issue with the GF and well its all out war over here . . then I was up till 5:30 AM setting up my new computer so I could actually do something online so Monday was spent sleeping . . but I did get up . . look at my gym, yawn then flop back out and slept like a log.

    I tell you mental BS has to be the hardest thing to try and work through . . it SUCKS!!!

    So today I don't feel much better and with all the BS I think my BP is up . . grrrr! but I will do my warm up, hit some cardio then do chest . . I could vent more but it would just be more crap coming out of my mouth lol . . have a great day everyone.
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    OK time to do an update . . . well the chest workout on Tuesday was amazing freaky pumps and tons of energy however like I said above the family issues came at Mass Monkey from all sides and well people sometimes we must deal with life and put it on the front burner for a bit. . . its mentally exhausting but today I did the do and had a back workout. . . not the best workout but considering my mind was still down a bit I was happy. . . I was going to do my deadlifts at the end for a change but by the time I got there I was beat and my back was just to pumped and tight so back to doing deads at the beginning like always.

    Well this has NOT been the best week as you can tell but as much as we would like to think we are machines we are not . . maybe if I was still living with mommy and daddy it would be different OR getting ready for a big competition I would have pushed it a bit harder this week but for now I did the do, it got done and I'm happy . . and I still have 2 full weeks on cycle.

    Still sitting at 10 pounds morning weight so I'm happy with that. . . funny I even looked pumped this week even though I was slacking a bit this helped my mental game. . . I think I'll do some extra workouts on the weekend to make up the ones I missed this week then back to my normal schedule on Monday and back on track.

    My goal for this cycle as crazy as it sounds was 12 pounds on and walk away with 7 so I'm only 2 pounds away from my goal and still 2 weeks so only a pound a week this is doable.

    As for sides still none to really speak of and I really can't comment on my BP lol as its up do to stress

    Well time to eat . . . so off I go
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass Monkey
    OK time to do an update . . . well the chest workout on Tuesday was amazing freaky pumps and tons of energy however like I said above the family issues came at Mass Monkey from all sides and well people sometimes we must deal with life and put it on the front burner for a bit. . . its mentally exhausting but today I did the do and had a back workout. . . not the best workout but considering my mind was still down a bit I was happy. . . I was going to do my deadlifts at the end for a change but by the time I got there I was beat and my back was just to pumped and tight so back to doing deads at the beginning like always.

    Well this has NOT been the best week as you can tell but as much as we would like to think we are machines we are not . . maybe if I was still living with mommy and daddy it would be different OR getting ready for a big competition I would have pushed it a bit harder this week but for now I did the do, it got done and I'm happy . . and I still have 2 full weeks on cycle.

    Still sitting at 10 pounds morning weight so I'm happy with that. . . funny I even looked pumped this week even though I was slacking a bit this helped my mental game. . . I think I'll do some extra workouts on the weekend to make up the ones I missed this week then back to my normal schedule on Monday and back on track.

    My goal for this cycle as crazy as it sounds was 12 pounds on and walk away with 7 so I'm only 2 pounds away from my goal and still 2 weeks so only a pound a week this is doable.

    As for sides still none to really speak of and I really can't comment on my BP lol as its up do to stress

    Well time to eat . . . so off I go
    Sorry for the life problems bro. Enjoying the log and your progress. Keep it up
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    Hey Bud . . Welcom . . eh no worries just down a bit this week . . been at the iron game more years than I care to count and I know when I have to relax a bit on the intensity and channel my energy elsewhere for a few days to avoid injury . . I always check my ego at the door to my gym and then all goes well . . . I'm pretty hard on myself at the best of times when it comes to my training and competitions so when I slack off (sort of) I view it as just extra rest to recover . . it also makes me hungrier the next week. . .

    I was thinking of bumping it up to 100 mg next week but again more is not always better so for now I'm sticking with 75 as the gains are still going great. . and well at 166 I don't think much more is needed . . like I said in the opening post . . I was at this weight for ever due to weight class limitations but now we are here to lean and grow and so far growing is going well. . .

    I have been doing a bit of a dirty bulk this week and . . ah NOPE not my thing lol!!!! but the food has been bought and cooked so I'll finish this week but OMG bring back my chicken and fish . . also I cut out my physillium husk this week just to see if its affecting the absorption of my HB and that alone is making me feel a bit bloated . . so I'll be bringing that back as well . . but no other side like I said . . I still get excited when the GF starts her thing so this is good, no acne, still good energy, and no back pumps . . . well today I didn't do my deads but I figured I wouldn't get them done. . . after years of deadlifting I know . . do them first or don't do them at all but I loaded the bar and looked at it so does that count? lol

    I tell you what is hard . . eating all this dam food when you one don't train and two mentally are not into it . . ugh!!!

    But I must say I'm loving my night time weight and pump . . I know it won't always be like this but for now in my little world I'm enjoying the HIGH lol

    Thanks for following and I hope to have more exciting news soon . . . and hey, its arm day tomorrow what more can a man ask for? lol . . OK, OK a truck full of the Budweiser girls and a million dollars but for now all is good.
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    awesome man!i think im going to follow your cycle when i start mines in 2weeks
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    PM me if u want or I guess I could post it here but made some minor changes to diet and pill schedule. But it's a rocking cycle so far

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    I'd suggest adding this

    http://www.truefreedomsupplements.co...67/9236207.htm

    And make sure u have everything before u start

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    I take 2 caps of hDrol at 11 & 9 with 2000 g of fish oil

    My supports are taken at 4 and 2am. That r orange triad, liv52 ,cycle assist, Meca, 1000 g of fish oil, hawthorn Berry

    In the future pick HB EXTRACT and I'd have celery seed EXTRACT on hand as well S your BP will go up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass Monkey
    I take 2 caps of hDrol at 11 & 9 with 2000 g of fish oil

    My supports are taken at 4 and 2am. That r orange triad, liv52 ,cycle assist, Meca, 1000 g of fish oil, hawthorn Berry

    In the future pick HB EXTRACT and I'd have celery seed EXTRACT on hand as well S your BP will go up.

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    When do you lift?
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    I lift at my own gym Monday to Friday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass Monkey
    I lift at my own gym Monday to Friday

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    I mean time of day, in relation to your supp dosing
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    Lol oops sorry my bad. Well I work afternoons so I take my PH at 11 am then lift at 12:30 pm. Then lunch at 2. Supports at 4 then snack at 5:30. A shake 7:30. Lunch at 9 then a shake at 11:30 and another snack at 1 am

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    awsome!

    could i also use flaxseed oil instead of fish oil?
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    You could I use flax seed oil in all my shakes and EVOO as well along with fish oils. Omega 3

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    I put 2 TBS of flax per shake but I like the Omega 3 fish oil caps as well for convenience and I take 6 of them a day. So all that with my salmon & cod filet at dinner I think I'm set.

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    Good morning world and Mass Monkey hits 11 pounds this morning!!!!!! . . well just shy at 167.4 remember I started at 156.6 and I'm still clipping at 12 so life is good. I have a bit of a bloat by days end so I'll adjust my carbs a bit next week so all is good . . and its arm day so once I wake up I'll kill that and get back into my wagon and ride the cycle wave again in high spirits. . . well of to inflate to larger than life . . Huyeah!
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    WE HAVE LIFTOFF!!!!

    Ok just a quick update but OMG!! The magic of strength might just have kicked in.

    Up 25 pounds in my EZ bar curls. I do them slow, controlled, no swing and flex each rep and I usually stop at about 40 for 10 well today was like this after my 40 & 20 rep warm up. Man does that get the blood pumping so here we go:

    Warm up with 40,20,10
    40x10
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    Then it was off for preachers again up by 15 pounds and when I got around to doing my skull crushers they were up 15 pounds as well.

    So like I said we have lift off. Next week should b good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass Monkey
    WE HAVE LIFTOFF!!!!

    Ok just a quick update but OMG!! The magic of strength might just have kicked in.

    Up 25 pounds in my EZ bar curls. I do them slow, controlled, no swing and flex each rep and I usually stop at about 40 for 10 well today was like this after my 40 & 20 rep warm up. Man does that get the blood pumping so here we go:

    Warm up with 40,20,10
    40x10
    50x10
    60x10
    70x6

    Then it was off for preachers again up by 15 pounds and when I got around to doing my skull crushers they were up 15 pounds as well.

    So like I said we have lift off. Next week should b good.

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    thats whats up man!!
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    Well it has been beautiful this weekend I had the entire house all to myself so I got so much stuff done. . . Finished the last little bit of setting up the computer so now I have my command station back up and running.

    I wanted to make up for lost time so I hit my legs yesterday and all was good there . . today I rested and slept in till 1 PM lol it was wonderful.

    Well BP is down a bit 130/85 so I'm happy about that and I feel much better.

    I do find that I'm getting sensitive to carbs so like I said I have reduced them for the ensuing week.

    Not sure why but I feel a bit more honey the last few days and this is odd as by now I should be losing it . . not that I'm complaining. As far as shrinkage eh maybe a very small tad but hard to really say as God was not very generous in that department to begin with hahahaha.

    So tomorrow begins Week #5 only 2 more left then the PCT already stocking up on klynex so I can ball my eyes out during the Notebook and Titanic . . .as if . . . I am really tempted to bump up my dose to 100 but holding back as I know it really wont make that big of a difference at 171 other than give me probably more sides and stress on my liver.

    This cycle is a dry/test run for my next cycle that I am currently researching and planning for sometime in February or March and that will be a 6 week run of TBol stacked with Dermacrine and StanoDrol . . . ANY FEELINGS? ANYBODY?

    Next cycle I'll be adding agies to further help the liver along with Liv52 and CA. If you don't know about it look at this link it is a must:

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    Well looking forward to this week to see if Friday was a fluke or if in fact my strength is actually starting to kick in.

    Back off to kick back on the couch with my popcorn and watch Safe with Jason Statmen looks to be a good movie and I don't have to share my popcorn or the couch . . life is good lol
  

  
 

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