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    My first injectable cycle/ test E + Dbol


    My cycle
    1-10 500mg test E (may run it to 12 weeks)
    1-4. 25 mg dbol

    Pct 12-15
    Clomid 100/75/50/50
    Nolva. 20/20/20/20???

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    So I had my first pin yesterday and it went pretty smooth. I pinned in my right quad but I don't think I went quite slow enough also didn't heat up the oil first which I heard helps. Woke up stiff as hell could barely walk this morning but applied heat and stretched out seems to be better as the day progresses.

    I will be training for the start 5 days a week. I will add goals and PB as I go along. I train between the 8-12 rep range with very little rest in between sets to keep my heart rate up so I don't have to do cardio.
    Stats 34 years old
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    Bf prob around 10% give or take
    Hard to tell considering I don't ever really work my abs but I will be hitting them hard on cycle.

    I will update whenever I can. Pro and carbs will be consumed like there's no tomorrow. My training partner is running this cycle as well, he's 38. I have done a ton of research over the last decade and am finally joining the DARK side!!

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    For your pct just use one or the other, there's no need for 2 SERMs. I would stretch the test out to 12 weeks, and u can bump the dbol up if u want bro. Don't forget an AI though for pct, I prefer exemestane its great, and probly something for cortisol. Do it big bro, I'll b following.
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    i'm hoping that with only 25mg dbol, you are using it all at once before your biggest meal
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL
    i'm hoping that with only 25mg dbol, you are using it all at once before your biggest meal
    Honestly I will be bumping it up to 25mg twice a day prob for the last 2 weeks. The thing is they are 25mg powder filled caps so you can't cut them in half or anything. Just thought I would start out one cap before workout for the first 2 weeks then 2 a day for the last 2 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow View Post
    Honestly I will be bumping it up to 25mg twice a day prob for the last 2 weeks. The thing is they are 25mg powder filled caps so you can't cut them in half or anything. Just thought I would start out one cap before workout for the first 2 weeks then 2 a day for the last 2 weeks.
    well, you can try it at 25 a day and see how it feels, but personally i'd just run it at 50 for whatever number of caps you have then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed
    For your pct just use one or the other, there's no need for 2 SERMs. I would stretch the test out to 12 weeks, and u can bump the dbol up if u want bro. Don't forget an AI though for pct, I prefer exemestane its great, and probly something for cortisol. Do it big bro, I'll b following.
    Thanks man! So just run clomid? Even if I go 12 weeks which I prob will. Also dbol will def get a bump, just forgot to put it in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    Thanks man! So just run clomid? Even if I go 12 weeks which I prob will. Also dbol will def get a bump, just forgot to put it in.
    Yeah i'd just run clomid, I don't like nolva at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    Honestly I will be bumping it up to 25mg twice a day prob for the last 2 weeks. The thing is they are 25mg powder filled caps so you can't cut them in half or anything. Just thought I would start out one cap before workout for the first 2 weeks then 2 a day for the last 2 weeks.
    Just run 50mgs out of the gate. I was on 40mgs dbol and wish i had enough for double that. You'll be fine. Youve used aas/ds/ph before correct? This is just your first injectable cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    Honestly I will be bumping it up to 25mg twice a day prob for the last 2 weeks. The thing is they are 25mg powder filled caps so you can't cut them in half or anything. Just thought I would start out one cap before workout for the first 2 weeks then 2 a day for the last 2 weeks.
    Just run 50mgs out of the gate. I was on 40mgs dbol and wish i had enough for double that. You'll be fine. Youve used aas/ds/ph before correct? This is just your first injectable cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668

    Just run 50mgs out of the gate. I was on 40mgs dbol and wish i had enough for double that. You'll be fine. Youve used aas/ds/ph before correct? This is just your first injectable cycle?
    Super beast what's up man? Yeah I've used a lot of orals in years past but never injected before. I'm sure you remember the thrashing I received about methyl 1 test.....damn let's not get into that conversation again. LoL so I should just hit 50 mgs now? I've obviously used a lot harsher then dbol so I might as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    Super beast what's up man? Yeah I've used a lot of orals in years past but never injected before. I'm sure you remember the thrashing I received about methyl 1 test.....damn let's not get into that conversation again. LoL so I should just hit 50 mgs now? I've obviously used a lot harsher then dbol so I might as well!
    Yeah buddy 50mgs that's where its at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    Super beast what's up man? Yeah I've used a lot of orals in years past but never injected before. I'm sure you remember the thrashing I received about methyl 1 test.....damn let's not get into that conversation again. LoL so I should just hit 50 mgs now? I've obviously used a lot harsher then dbol so I might as well!
    Honestly bro. Dbol and anadrol together didnt make me feel as ****ty as superdrol alone. I know its a bad basis without bloods to back it up but i dont think they effect the liver kidneys and prostate as bad as the designer gear. I would definitely go 50 mgs. When i run my injectable cycle in sept/oct (tenative start date) im considering kicking it off with 50mg of dbol and ill build up to 100mgs anadrol.

    And yes i remember that retarded fiasco that never turned up the info requested... you dissapeared for a while, thought it may have turned you away from the forums
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668

    Honestly bro. Dbol and anadrol together didnt make me feel as ****ty as superdrol alone. I know its a bad basis without bloods to back it up but i dont think they effect the liver kidneys and prostate as bad as the designer gear. I would definitely go 50 mgs. When i run my injectable cycle in sept/oct (tenative start date) im considering kicking it off with 50mg of dbol and ill build up to 100mgs anadrol.

    And yes i remember that retarded fiasco that never turned up the info requested... you dissapeared for a while, thought it may have turned you away from the forums
    I'm actually glad to hear this cuz SD treats me like sh*t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed

    I'm actually glad to hear this cuz SD treats me like sh*t.
    Bro im not playing when i say i wont touch designer gear again. Its horrible. Theres a reason methasterone never hit shelves in the early 60's when it was created. It was far harsher than its big bad brother anadrol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668

    Bro im not playing when i say i wont touch designer gear again. Its horrible. Theres a reason methasterone never hit shelves in the early 60's when it was created. It was far harsher than its big bad brother anadrol.
    That's a very good point, it was synthesized then but they never brought it out until more recent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668

    Honestly bro. Dbol and anadrol together didnt make me feel as ****ty as superdrol alone. I know its a bad basis without bloods to back it up but i dont think they effect the liver kidneys and prostate as bad as the designer gear. I would definitely go 50 mgs. When i run my injectable cycle in sept/oct (tenative start date) im considering kicking it off with 50mg of dbol and ill build up to 100mgs anadrol.

    And yes i remember that retarded fiasco that never turned up the info requested... you dissapeared for a while, thought it may have turned you away from the forums
    I will bump it up to 50 tomorrow. I hear you on the designer **** some of that stuff bad news. I am not much of a fan after my bouts with it early on. I must say though I sure hope this pain in my leg goes away by tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    I will bump it up to 50 tomorrow. I hear you on the designer **** some of that stuff bad news. I am not much of a fan after my bouts with it early on. I must say though I sure hope this pain in my leg goes away by tomorrow.
    Lil sore from the pin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668

    Lil sore from the pin?
    Yeah definitely from the pin lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed

    Yeah definitely from the pin lol.
    He may have had a beefy leg day like mine the other day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668

    He may have had a beefy leg day like mine the other day...
    Lol yeah like mine yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668

    He may have had a beefy leg day like mine the other day...
    Yep on the very day of my first pin! Prob not to smart but def felling a little better today. Couldn't even walk yesterday but still went and did shoulders. I only did machines cause I couldn't carry the weights and sit down at the same time. Haha but at least I was there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed
    For your pct just use one or the other, there's no need for 2 SERMs. I would stretch the test out to 12 weeks, and u can bump the dbol up if u want bro. Don't forget an AI though for pct, I prefer exemestane its great, and probly something for cortisol. Do it big bro, I'll b following.
    So I was looking at Aromasin like you suggested would you suggest 12.5 mg eod? I was actually only going to take it if I needed it but maybe I will run it through from week 3 -12. Is the half life feasible to just run it eod? Controlling estrogen would obviously be beneficial guess I'm confused on whether or not it's beneficial to gains....or people run it just to combat gyno and bloat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    So I was looking at Aromasin like you suggested would you suggest 12.5 mg eod? I was actually only going to take it if I needed it but maybe I will run it through from week 3 -12. Is the half life feasible to just run it eod? Controlling estrogen would obviously be beneficial guess I'm confused on whether or not it's beneficial to gains....or people run it just to combat gyno and bloat?
    Itll actually help keep e2 where it needs to be. Dbol aromatises quickly... eod at 12.5 is perfect
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668

    Itll actually help keep e2 where it needs to be. Dbol aromatises quickly... eod at 12.5 is perfect
    Agreed
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    So during my training today was doing abs using cable crunches and did a light set of 30 reps. Then I increased the weight by about 30lbs to around 120lbs ,my very first rep I pulled the rope and felt my abs give me the most pain I have ever felt. No lie guys I hunched over and almost had someone call an ambulance. I think it was a huge crap but felt like I tore my abs. It was excruciating. Has anyone had this happen? Could this be cramps from the dbol? I have been training for almost 15 years and never felt anything like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow
    So during my training today was doing abs using cable crunches and did a light set of 30 reps. Then I increased the weight by about 30lbs to around 120lbs ,my very first rep I pulled the rope and felt my abs give me the most pain I have ever felt. No lie guys I hunched over and almost had someone call an ambulance. I think it was a huge crap but felt like I tore my abs. It was excruciating. Has anyone had this happen? Could this be cramps from the dbol? I have been training for almost 15 years and never felt anything like this.
    I was lifting with a massive samoan powerlifter that tore an ab a few years ago. Definitely knew it when he did...never seen a grown ass man cry before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668

    I was lifting with a massive samoan powerlifter that tore an ab a few years ago. Definitely knew it when he did...never seen a grown ass man cry before.
    Alright so I guess I'm ok then? I didn't cry but I was close to be honest. So I guess a huge crap? Didn't think dbol would do anything like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    Alright so I guess I'm ok then? I didn't cry but I was close to be honest. So I guess a huge crap? Didn't think dbol would do anything like that.
    It could be. Take it easy for a day or two on your abs and midsection
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    Sub'd on this. And I'm with you on SD that sh*t treated me horrible! All I wanted to do was eat and sleep. SO lethargic it wasn't even funny. Dropped it after 16 pounds in 2 weeks. Which was all water I'm sure cuz I couldn't get crap done in the gym. Anyway good luck bro I'll be following!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danb2285
    Sub'd on this. And I'm with you on SD that sh*t treated me horrible! All I wanted to do was eat and sleep. SO lethargic it wasn't even funny. Dropped it after 16 pounds in 2 weeks. Which was all water I'm sure cuz I couldn't get crap done in the gym. Anyway good luck bro I'll be following!
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    So hit back today and wow what a pump! Should I be feeling this damn good so early? Bent over bb rows with 225 like it was nothing. Cable rows used the entire stack. Lat pull downs had to pin a 45 lb plate to the stack. Took my shirt off in the zumba room and damn must say back is jacked. Never seen veins in my back, pretty sweet. Tomorrow 2nd pin. Think I'll go with the glute this time. I think my body likes dbol very much!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow
    So hit back today and wow what a pump! Should I be feeling this damn good so early? Bent over bb rows with 225 like it was nothing. Cable rows used the entire stack. Lat pull downs had to pin a 45 lb plate to the stack. Took my shirt off in the zumba room and damn must say back is jacked. Never seen veins in my back, pretty sweet. Tomorrow 2nd pin. Think I'll go with the glute this time. I think my body likes dbol very much!!
    Dbol doesn't take very long to kick in for most. Its day 3 or 4 of it right? The timing is about right. I know i feel overall good by day two then the pumps start... then comes massive strength. Sit back and enjoy bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow
    So hit back today and wow what a pump! Should I be feeling this damn good so early? Bent over bb rows with 225 like it was nothing. Cable rows used the entire stack. Lat pull downs had to pin a 45 lb plate to the stack. Took my shirt off in the zumba room and damn must say back is jacked. Never seen veins in my back, pretty sweet. Tomorrow 2nd pin. Think I'll go with the glute this time. I think my body likes dbol very much!!
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    Damn bro! Killin it in the gym! Are u getting any bloat at all from the dbol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed

    Going ape sh*t son!
    That's how I role brother! Arms today haha can't wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danb2285
    Damn bro! Killin it in the gym! Are u getting any bloat at all from the dbol?
    No bloat but I'm only 6 days in so..... And only 4 days in running it at 50mgs
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    No bloat but I'm only 6 days in so..... And only 4 days in running it at 50mgs
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