6 week cycle began yesterday
- 09-06-2004, 12:04 AM
- 09-07-2004, 09:51 AM
- 09-07-2004, 11:00 AM
Fine now. They were only puffy for a day. Still continuing the Letro till the end of the cycle though.
09-08-2004, 04:41 PM
Stopped 1-Test and M1,4ADDiol as planned. Still taking 1,4andro also as planned. However I'm not taking Nolva. The reason is that there is no purpose to taking Nolva when I am already taking Letro. Nolva binds to the estrogen receptors, but if there is no estrogen anyway, then there is no purpose to blocking the receptor sites.
After several days on Letro, I've already noticeably lost water weight. I'm starting to look more cut again. Certainly not like I was when I started, but definitely more cut now than I was this past Saturday when I first took the Letro. Haven't weighed myself in a while, I will today when I get home from work. Today will be chest day again. Would have done legs on Tuesday but my roomate went bowling so I had no spot. I'll see if I can repeat last week's feat of 315 pounds on the flat bench. I hope my elbow doesn't give me problems.
09-09-2004, 11:36 AM
09-09-2004, 08:56 PM
9/9/2004 light circuit.
4 sets flat dumbell bench. Final set 12x120s
4 sets wide grip Lat Pulldown. Final set 10x205
4 sets Leg extension. Final set 12x250
4 sets machine flyes. Final set 12x120
I've gained crazy strength in my legs and chest/tris clearly.
My elbow has recovered really well; it didn't hurt at all during bench. It started to hurt a tiny bit on the final set of pulldowns though.
In the future I think I'll include hammer curls, reverse curls, and wrist curls into my workout.
09-13-2004, 12:17 PM
9/13/2004 morning weight 202.5
After taking Metamucil 3 times a day and drinking plenty of water, I finally got over my constipation yesterday. I took the first painless crap in weeks. I'm almost positive that my slight drop in weight is from lack of crap sitting in my intestines.
09-14-2004, 01:27 AM
9/13/2004 Chest day:
Barbell flat bench, Rev's ultimate max increasing 5 set plan:
2 warm-up sets of 15 then...
boom! 335 is my new max baby!
Then I did a couple light sets of incline bench to finish it off. Just 3 sets of 225 for 12
09-14-2004, 09:02 AM
After reading your earlier post about this, this is a good sign =D That was one hilarious post btw. A couple of suggestions. If you haven't already, try docusate sodium (generic colace). Take some every night. Also, metamucil may not give enough fiber/dose to be effective. Try pure psyllium, bulk oat fiber, or fiber one/all bran. Problems should cease at that point. If it gets really bad again, keep milk of magnesium onhand.Originally Posted by Nullifidian
09-14-2004, 10:53 AM
9/14/2004 forgot to weigh myself this morning again.
Whoa, from one direction to another. This morning I took what some refer to as a "power dump". That's where you sit down on the toilet and your ass does an impersonation of a grenade launcher.
09-14-2004, 11:26 AM
09-14-2004, 10:17 PM
9/14/2004 leg day
Went to Gold's Gym for a "trial day"
4 sets Hack squats. Final set 12x365
4 sets leg extension (Cybex) final set 12x(11, whatever that weight means)
4 sets leg curl. Final set 12x160
4 sets leg press (45 degree free weight sled) final set 15x675
exercises in that order. I wanted to burn out my legs before doing leg press because otherwise I'd have to load up so much weight that it would crush my spinal column while I pressed it.
Let me just say that I am LOVING this new gym. It's so awsome to be able to go in and pick any exercise at all and be able to do it. You name it, it can be done there 7 different ways.
09-16-2004, 09:15 AM
Had my first morning workout .... ever. 6:15AM I rolled into Gold's.
Barbell Bent over Row (underhand grip) 4 sets, final set 10x205
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 4 sets, final set 10x180
Double D Grip cable Chindowns 4 sets, final set 10x(12; it was on the Cybex which don't have weight listed)
Reverse EZ-bar curls 4 sets, final set 10x45
My forearms in on fire and my hands are shaking like a smack addict on withdrawal. I wish I had bigger hands so my grip wouldn't give out so easily. I'd be able to do more weight on back day if it weren't for my lame weakass grip. So on Sunday I'm going to do a day just for forearms. Sunday will be forearm day from now unless I plan on doing deadlifts the following week.
09-16-2004, 03:03 PM
09-16-2004, 03:43 PM
still on 1,4andro. Will stay on until Sunday.
Folks at work are noticing the significant increase in size. One guy said "Dude you got huge all of a sudden. Like swole."
Yeah, this cycle definitely worked.
I've continued to go up in strength since going off the M14 and 1-Test. Not as rapid an increase in strength anymore but an increase nonetheless. I'm structuring my workouts now at around the 10-12 rep range.
I'll continue this thread all the way through PCT so we can see how my strength and size change after the cycle is over.
09-16-2004, 04:06 PM
any chance you can post some pics showing the difference between the original ones you posted and recent ones to see a difference??
09-16-2004, 04:08 PM
Sure, but :
1) They won't be pretty. I've retained major amounts of water and have gained significant fat.
2) There's no way I'm posing in posing trunks in this condition. Shirtless with a pair of shorts is as far as I'll go .... you perverts. :
09-16-2004, 05:43 PM
LMAO!! Didnt mean for it to sound that way, just want to see your progress to see if it would be worth trying a cycle like this out..only thing that worries me is the pooping thing...Originally Posted by Nullifidian
09-16-2004, 07:19 PM
The poop thing shouldn't worry you. Chronic constipation runs in my family. It takes a lot of effort for me to NOT be constipated. The truth is I didn't drink nearly enough water while oncycle, and I should ahve been taking metamucil once a day.
09-16-2004, 09:17 PM
Nice results Null. I've never taken letro but 1.25 mg ed is a lot from what I've heard. Any sides from that?
09-17-2004, 12:15 AM
A single Letro pill is 2.5mg. Therefore what I'm taking is equal to half that. No sides whatsoever that I've noticed.
09-19-2004, 10:51 AM
Nice job here. I would keep using Fiber One and metamucil. I use both of those all of the time (especially when my veggie intake is low).
I'm still keeping my eye on you Focker
09-19-2004, 04:22 PM
9/19/2004 final day of the cycle. Weight: 203
starting weight: 175
ending weight: 203
total weight gained: 28 lbs
09-20-2004, 09:01 AM
Holy crap man...fantastic results so far from what I can tell. I definatly might give this cycle a whirl. I know this is kind of a dumb question asking now, but how much weight do you expect to keep after you are done with your cycle and PCT?
09-20-2004, 09:55 AM
9/20/2004 first day of PCT
ended 1,4andro use
ended Letro use
750mg Milk Thistle extract
1.5g Bulgarian Tribulus
1.5g Bulgarian Tribulus
40mg (60mg of liquid) Tamoxifen citrate (aka Nolvadex)
Had a full body workout today. Purpose was finding my 15 rep max on all the exercises I'll be doing for HST.
Close Stance Leg Press: 630
Leg Extension: 170
Hammer Strength Iso-Lateral Flat Bench: 180 (assuming no weight for the lever)
Cable Crossover (high cable): 60 each side
Tricep Rope Pulldown: 55
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown: 130
Double-D chindown: 120
Machine Preacher Curl: 50
45 dgree sled calf raise: 315 (though this was a little too light I think)
As for how much I'll keep, no idea. I know I gained a lot of water and fat though.
09-20-2004, 12:25 PM
Currently, as I mentioned, I'm, going to do HST during PCT. I'm spending this week finding my 15, 10, and 5 rep maxes for the exercises I'll be doing.
Here's what I plan on doing:
Close Stance Leg Pressx1
Hammer Strength Iso-Lateral Flat Benchx1
Cable Crossover (high cable)x2
Tricep Rope Pulldownx2
Dumbell Lateral Raisex2
Wide Grip Lat Pulldownx1
Machine Preacher Curlx2
45 dgree sled calf raisex3
Whoa, just realized I forgot what I did with shoulders in the other post:
Lateral dumbell raise: 20 pounds
For 10 reps:
Cable Crossoverx2 (I love these)
Bent-Over Barbell Row(underhand)x1
Low Cable Row (double-D grip)x2
Standing Calf Raisex3
For 5 reps:
Barbell Flat Benchx1
Smith Machine Military Pressx2
Dumbell Preacher Curlx2
Seated Calf Raisex3
I gotta say, these workouts are pretty brutal. 18 sets each workout.
09-22-2004, 09:58 AM
I should preface this by saying that I haven't done barbell free squat since highschool. That said, you can understand that I felt unbalanced, uneasy, and basically had a difficult time with a weight I that was probably too light for me.
10 rep maxes -
Barbell Squat: 315
Leg Curl: 150
Smith Bench: 230
Cable Crossovers: 70
Arnold Press: 40 pounders
Skullcrushers: 80 (my triceps were already feeling a bit fried)
Barbell Bent Over Row: 185
Low Cable row (double D grip): 160
--couldn't find the standing calf raise station after walking around so I got sick of searching--
45 degree Sled calf raise: 365
Note to self: clenbuterol and free weight squats don't mix well. I was shaking like a mad dog this morning, and having your knees bouncing up and down and your hands shaking the bar while you are trying to balance a large heavy weight on your shoulders isn't the greatest thing in the world.
Clen dose: 80mcg
09-22-2004, 03:33 PM
I've found a new most challenging exercise:
playing Minesweeper on 80mcg of clen, using a thumb-trackball.
09-22-2004, 09:17 PM
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