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    A single Letro pill is 2.5mg. Therefore what I'm taking is equal to half that. No sides whatsoever that I've noticed.

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    Nice job here. I would keep using Fiber One and metamucil. I use both of those all of the time (especially when my veggie intake is low).

    I'm still keeping my eye on you Focker
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    9/19/2004 final day of the cycle. Weight: 203

    so...

    starting weight: 175
    ending weight: 203

    total weight gained: 28 lbs
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    Holy crap man...fantastic results so far from what I can tell. I definatly might give this cycle a whirl. I know this is kind of a dumb question asking now, but how much weight do you expect to keep after you are done with your cycle and PCT?
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    9/20/2004 first day of PCT

    ended 1,4andro use
    ended Letro use

    Morning:
    750mg Milk Thistle extract
    500mg NAC
    40mcg Clenbuterol

    Lunch:
    1.5g Bulgarian Tribulus

    Night:
    ZMA
    1.5g Bulgarian Tribulus
    40mg (60mg of liquid) Tamoxifen citrate (aka Nolvadex)



    Had a full body workout today. Purpose was finding my 15 rep max on all the exercises I'll be doing for HST.

    Close Stance Leg Press: 630
    Leg Extension: 170
    Hammer Strength Iso-Lateral Flat Bench: 180 (assuming no weight for the lever)
    Cable Crossover (high cable): 60 each side
    Tricep Rope Pulldown: 55
    Wide Grip Lat Pulldown: 130
    Double-D chindown: 120
    Machine Preacher Curl: 50
    45 dgree sled calf raise: 315 (though this was a little too light I think)


    As for how much I'll keep, no idea. I know I gained a lot of water and fat though.
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    Currently, as I mentioned, I'm, going to do HST during PCT. I'm spending this week finding my 15, 10, and 5 rep maxes for the exercises I'll be doing.

    Here's what I plan on doing:

    15 reps:

    Close Stance Leg Pressx1
    Leg Extensionx2
    Hammer Strength Iso-Lateral Flat Benchx1
    Cable Crossover (high cable)x2
    Tricep Rope Pulldownx2
    Dumbell Lateral Raisex2
    Wide Grip Lat Pulldownx1
    Double-D chindownx2
    Machine Preacher Curlx2
    45 dgree sled calf raisex3

    Whoa, just realized I forgot what I did with shoulders in the other post:

    Lateral dumbell raise: 20 pounds



    For 10 reps:
    Barbell Squatx1
    Leg Curlx2
    Smith Benchx1
    Cable Crossoverx2 (I love these)
    Skullcrushersx2
    Arnold Pressx2
    Bent-Over Barbell Row(underhand)x1
    Low Cable Row (double-D grip)x2
    EZ-bar curlx2
    Standing Calf Raisex3


    For 5 reps:
    Barbell Squatx1
    Leg Curlx1
    Leg Extensionx1
    Barbell Flat Benchx1
    Cable Crossoverx2
    Smith Machine Military Pressx2
    Tricep Pressdownx2
    Bent-Over Rowx1
    Widegrip Pulldownx2
    Dumbell Preacher Curlx2
    Seated Calf Raisex3


    I gotta say, these workouts are pretty brutal. 18 sets each workout.
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    I should preface this by saying that I haven't done barbell free squat since highschool. That said, you can understand that I felt unbalanced, uneasy, and basically had a difficult time with a weight I that was probably too light for me.

    10 rep maxes -

    Barbell Squat: 315
    Leg Curl: 150
    Smith Bench: 230
    Cable Crossovers: 70
    Arnold Press: 40 pounders
    Skullcrushers: 80 (my triceps were already feeling a bit fried)
    Barbell Bent Over Row: 185
    Low Cable row (double D grip): 160
    --couldn't find the standing calf raise station after walking around so I got sick of searching--
    45 degree Sled calf raise: 365


    Note to self: clenbuterol and free weight squats don't mix well. I was shaking like a mad dog this morning, and having your knees bouncing up and down and your hands shaking the bar while you are trying to balance a large heavy weight on your shoulders isn't the greatest thing in the world.

    Clen dose: 80mcg
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    I've found a new most challenging exercise:

    playing Minesweeper on 80mcg of clen, using a thumb-trackball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nullifidian
    I've found a new most challenging exercise:

    playing Minesweeper on 80mcg of clen, using a thumb-trackball.
    LOL I have to try it next time I'm on clen.
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    did extending the 1,4 help you keep gains? what is you current weight? hows the bodyfat looking?
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    9/23/2004: morning weight - 202

    Looks like I'm keeping the weight so far. This is a good sign because most of the weight loss is typically lost in the first week. I'm being extra sure to keep my protein and carbs up lately though. I also take 3 grams of flaxseed oil along with 1.5grams of the total 3g daily of Tribulus right before going to sleep, 30 minutaes after taking ZMA. IIRC, EFAs play a key role in the production of testosterone.
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    Forgot to give a Friday update.

    9/24/2004

    I changed a couple exercises.

    5 rep maxes -

    Deadlifts (no straps): 315
    Leg Curl: 190
    Leg Extension: 290
    Barbell Flat Bench: 300
    Cable Crossovers: 90 (each cable)
    Hammer Strength Military Press: 250
    Dumbell Lateral Raise: 30 (each)
    Tricep Cable Pressdown: 110
    Hammer Strength Low Row: 250
    Wide Grip Lat Pulldown: 190
    Dumbell Preacher Curl: 60 (each)
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    Another update. Sorry I haven't updated in a while.

    10/12/2004 morning weight: 198.5

    A couple days ago I finished cycling clenbuterol. I had ramped up to 160mcg for a few days then ramped down and off. Lost a bunch of fat and water while on it. Best estimate is that of the 3.5 pounds lost, it is entirely fat and water. I think I may have actually gained more muscle since starting PCT. That would be pretty insane though.

    Finished 15s last Friday. Started 10s this past Monday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nullifidian
    Also yesterday I took a dump. Yeah, yeah, TMI and BFD. The thing is, for the past 4 days I have been EXTREMELY constipated. It appears there is a definite negative side effect to taking large doses of Glucosamine and Chondroitin. The constipation was so bad that yesterday I could barely stand up straight. It prevented me from working out, so I haven't done my leg workout yet this week. When I finally did manage to take a dump, it required so much effort that I broke blood vessels in my upper chest, traps, neck, and face. So now I have all these tiny little red dots all over those areas (thankfully less so on my face though).
    That really sucks but wow...
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    So how much did you end up keeping? 28 lbs gained on a PH cycle is INSANE. Pretty bad stretch marks?
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    m1,4ad/1-test/exlax stack
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    I just weighed myself.

    Currently 209 pounds. So I guess you can say I kept all of it .... and then gained some more fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrgg
    m1,4ad/1-test/exlax stack
    exlax?
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    He's constipated. I was joking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nullifidian
    Update on working weights and bodyweight:

    8/9/2004: I started the stack. I did a leg day that evening. I started a new focus on increasing the outer sweep of my quads.

    Close stance squats: 4 sets, final set 475x6
    Close stance hack squats: 4 sets, final set 385x6

    8/10/2004: Lat day.

    Bent over BB row, underhand grip, 75 degree angle: 4 sets, final set 210x6
    Wide grip pulldowns: 4 sets, final set 185x5
    Underhand closegrip pulldowns (chindowns): 4 sets, final set 185x6


    Weight:
    8/10/2004 evening I weighed 188 pounds
    8/11/2004 morning I weighed 183.5 pounds


    Still taking the M1,4AD in 2 doses; 40mg in the morning, 40mg in the evening. Still wondering if this is correct or if 1 dose would be just as effective.
    At 180lbs, you were doing close stance squats at 475lbs for 6 reps? If thats true, mad props bro!
    Bionic
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    I explained before that these were on a squat station, not freeweight barbell squats. No stabilizers involved and no focus on balance needed. It's WAAAAAAAAY easier than freeweight barbell squats.

    Honestly I'm not sure how much I have the strength to do on freeweight barbell squats because I lose my balance too easily as the weight goes up. The reason is I tend to lean forward to far. My squat form is practically like Steve Goggins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nullifidian
    I explained before that these were on a squat station, not freeweight barbell squats. No stabilizers involved and no focus on balance needed. It's WAAAAAAAAY easier than freeweight barbell squats.

    Honestly I'm not sure how much I have the strength to do on freeweight barbell squats because I lose my balance too easily as the weight goes up. The reason is I tend to lean forward to far. My squat form is practically like Steve Goggins.
    If youre gonna mimic someones squat, his is definately a good one to mimic!
    Bionic
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    Any after pics.

    Or did I miss them?

    Thanks
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    No after pics. I'm not exactly pretty right now.

    In any case, it's 2 months after I finished the cycle now and I've begun cutting. You can check it out here. It's the M4OHN/MDHT + trimax/clen cycle log.
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    Thanks for the log, you've inspired me to write log my M1,4ADD cycle here.

    Good job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nullifidian
    No after pics. I'm not exactly pretty right now.

    In any case, it's 2 months after I finished the cycle now and I've begun cutting. You can check it out here. It's the M4OHN/MDHT + trimax/clen cycle log.
    Damn Null, great thread I feel you on the constipation thing, man....it's horrible! I have that problem in my family, and when I hit my one and only 1-Test/4AD Trans cycle, I was constipated horribly for about a week. Finally crapped, then had the runs and got sick for a day or two. when I had the runs, I got my first bloody hemorrhoid and it's stuck with me ever since Son of a bitch!!!!! ha, ha, ha! It's okay though...6 months later and my ass only bleed occasionally, but hey...my muscles got bigger

    Great results!! Can't wait to see the after pics...especially since you won't have those damn posing trunks on again. j/k
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    I feel you on the constipation thing, man....it's horrible! I have that problem in my family, and when I hit my one and only 1-Test/4AD Trans cycle, I was constipated horribly for about a week. ...
    Oh my!
    I had often constipation when i was young. Thanks god its more than a year that i'm always regular. And that I'm not experiencing this on my cycle!
    Veggies are my friends
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    Oh my!
    I had often constipation when i was young. Thanks god its more than a year that i'm always regular. And that I'm not experiencing this on my cycle!
    Veggies are my friends
    I've been great ever since I got off my cycle....better than normal

    Oh, except for when I got the worst sunburnof my life....needless to say, being that dehydrated wasnt great for my bowel movements lol....actually, that one topped the cycles constipation....it was absolutely the worst feeling ever...and yes, I've put myself in the hospital as a young one, so i know pain
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    I've been great ever since I got off my cycle....better than normal

    Oh, except for when I got the worst sunburnof my life....needless to say, being that dehydrated wasnt great for my bowel movements lol....actually, that one topped the cycles constipation....it was absolutely the worst feeling ever...and yes, I've put myself in the hospital as a young one, so i know pain
    Oh man, i feel the pain.
    I have light skin and i'm prone to sunburns.... even from solariums!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    Oh man, i feel the pain.
    I have light skin and i'm prone to sunburns.... even from solariums!
    He, he...it was horrible! I couldn't move for nearly 3 weeks!! I ended up getting my first B in a long time, too, because I didn't do anything during my summer calculus course and didn't study for my finals....it was like an 89% in the class!!! (What a dick teacher, huh? lol )

    My g/f is Vietnamese, she and her family took me to the beach none of us has sunscreen. Well, to say the least, her and her tropical family got minimal sunburns. My g/f said it was the worst one she ever had in her life. That was pretty much just how I look after I'm at the beach for 15 minutes....damn I'm jealous!! I peeled from shoulder to shoulder an it was so deep when it peeled off, that the skin below hurt like hell to the touch. It was horrible....I guess us light skinned fellows weren't meant to spend 6 hrs at the beach without sunscreen I'll never do that again!! (I've spent all day in the sun before, but that was when I surfed a lot and my skin was used to it. This was the first time I hit the sun in a year!!!)
  

  
 

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