6 week cycle began yesterday
- 09-16-2004, 10:15 PM
- 09-19-2004, 08:51 AM
Nice job here. I would keep using Fiber One and metamucil. I use both of those all of the time (especially when my veggie intake is low).
I'm still keeping my eye on you Focker
- 09-19-2004, 02:22 PM
9/19/2004 final day of the cycle. Weight: 203
starting weight: 175
ending weight: 203
total weight gained: 28 lbs
09-20-2004, 07:01 AM
Holy crap man...fantastic results so far from what I can tell. I definatly might give this cycle a whirl. I know this is kind of a dumb question asking now, but how much weight do you expect to keep after you are done with your cycle and PCT?
09-20-2004, 07:55 AM
9/20/2004 first day of PCT
ended 1,4andro use
ended Letro use
750mg Milk Thistle extract
1.5g Bulgarian Tribulus
1.5g Bulgarian Tribulus
40mg (60mg of liquid) Tamoxifen citrate (aka Nolvadex)
Had a full body workout today. Purpose was finding my 15 rep max on all the exercises I'll be doing for HST.
Close Stance Leg Press: 630
Leg Extension: 170
Hammer Strength Iso-Lateral Flat Bench: 180 (assuming no weight for the lever)
Cable Crossover (high cable): 60 each side
Tricep Rope Pulldown: 55
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown: 130
Double-D chindown: 120
Machine Preacher Curl: 50
45 dgree sled calf raise: 315 (though this was a little too light I think)
As for how much I'll keep, no idea. I know I gained a lot of water and fat though.
09-20-2004, 10:25 AM
Currently, as I mentioned, I'm, going to do HST during PCT. I'm spending this week finding my 15, 10, and 5 rep maxes for the exercises I'll be doing.
Here's what I plan on doing:
Close Stance Leg Pressx1
Hammer Strength Iso-Lateral Flat Benchx1
Cable Crossover (high cable)x2
Tricep Rope Pulldownx2
Dumbell Lateral Raisex2
Wide Grip Lat Pulldownx1
Machine Preacher Curlx2
45 dgree sled calf raisex3
Whoa, just realized I forgot what I did with shoulders in the other post:
Lateral dumbell raise: 20 pounds
For 10 reps:
Cable Crossoverx2 (I love these)
Bent-Over Barbell Row(underhand)x1
Low Cable Row (double-D grip)x2
Standing Calf Raisex3
For 5 reps:
Barbell Flat Benchx1
Smith Machine Military Pressx2
Dumbell Preacher Curlx2
Seated Calf Raisex3
I gotta say, these workouts are pretty brutal. 18 sets each workout.
09-22-2004, 07:58 AM
I should preface this by saying that I haven't done barbell free squat since highschool. That said, you can understand that I felt unbalanced, uneasy, and basically had a difficult time with a weight I that was probably too light for me.
10 rep maxes -
Barbell Squat: 315
Leg Curl: 150
Smith Bench: 230
Cable Crossovers: 70
Arnold Press: 40 pounders
Skullcrushers: 80 (my triceps were already feeling a bit fried)
Barbell Bent Over Row: 185
Low Cable row (double D grip): 160
--couldn't find the standing calf raise station after walking around so I got sick of searching--
45 degree Sled calf raise: 365
Note to self: clenbuterol and free weight squats don't mix well. I was shaking like a mad dog this morning, and having your knees bouncing up and down and your hands shaking the bar while you are trying to balance a large heavy weight on your shoulders isn't the greatest thing in the world.
Clen dose: 80mcg
09-22-2004, 01:33 PM
I've found a new most challenging exercise:
playing Minesweeper on 80mcg of clen, using a thumb-trackball.
09-22-2004, 07:17 PM
LOL I have to try it next time I'm on clen.Originally Posted by Nullifidian
09-23-2004, 11:18 AM
did extending the 1,4 help you keep gains? what is you current weight? hows the bodyfat looking?
09-23-2004, 11:45 AM
9/23/2004: morning weight - 202
Looks like I'm keeping the weight so far. This is a good sign because most of the weight loss is typically lost in the first week. I'm being extra sure to keep my protein and carbs up lately though. I also take 3 grams of flaxseed oil along with 1.5grams of the total 3g daily of Tribulus right before going to sleep, 30 minutaes after taking ZMA. IIRC, EFAs play a key role in the production of testosterone.
09-25-2004, 11:09 PM
Forgot to give a Friday update.
I changed a couple exercises.
5 rep maxes -
Deadlifts (no straps): 315
Leg Curl: 190
Leg Extension: 290
Barbell Flat Bench: 300
Cable Crossovers: 90 (each cable)
Hammer Strength Military Press: 250
Dumbell Lateral Raise: 30 (each)
Tricep Cable Pressdown: 110
Hammer Strength Low Row: 250
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown: 190
Dumbell Preacher Curl: 60 (each)
10-12-2004, 09:51 PM
Another update. Sorry I haven't updated in a while.
10/12/2004 morning weight: 198.5
A couple days ago I finished cycling clenbuterol. I had ramped up to 160mcg for a few days then ramped down and off. Lost a bunch of fat and water while on it. Best estimate is that of the 3.5 pounds lost, it is entirely fat and water. I think I may have actually gained more muscle since starting PCT. That would be pretty insane though.
Finished 15s last Friday. Started 10s this past Monday.
11-16-2004, 01:49 PM
That really sucks but wow...Originally Posted by Nullifidian
11-16-2004, 02:00 PM
So how much did you end up keeping? 28 lbs gained on a PH cycle is INSANE. Pretty bad stretch marks?
11-16-2004, 02:05 PM
11-16-2004, 04:21 PM
I just weighed myself.
Currently 209 pounds. So I guess you can say I kept all of it .... and then gained some more fat.
11-18-2004, 07:30 AM
exlax?Originally Posted by rrgg
11-18-2004, 09:58 AM
11-24-2004, 09:46 AM
At 180lbs, you were doing close stance squats at 475lbs for 6 reps? If thats true, mad props bro!Originally Posted by Nullifidian
11-24-2004, 09:52 AM
I explained before that these were on a squat station, not freeweight barbell squats. No stabilizers involved and no focus on balance needed. It's WAAAAAAAAY easier than freeweight barbell squats.
Honestly I'm not sure how much I have the strength to do on freeweight barbell squats because I lose my balance too easily as the weight goes up. The reason is I tend to lean forward to far. My squat form is practically like Steve Goggins.
11-24-2004, 11:08 AM
If youre gonna mimic someones squat, his is definately a good one to mimic!Originally Posted by Nullifidian
11-24-2004, 12:38 PM
Any after pics.
Or did I miss them?
Sleep Supplement 3Z BCAA: Red Raspberry and Lemon flavors
HGH/sleep enhancer: HGHpro
Test Booster: TestoPRO and STOKED!
Preworkout: MANIAC Fruit Punch and Pink Lemonade
11-24-2004, 12:40 PM
No after pics. I'm not exactly pretty right now.
In any case, it's 2 months after I finished the cycle now and I've begun cutting. You can check it out here. It's the M4OHN/MDHT + trimax/clen cycle log.
12-15-2004, 03:35 AM
Thanks for the log, you've inspired me to write log my M1,4ADD cycle here.
12-15-2004, 04:32 AM
Damn Null, great thread I feel you on the constipation thing, man....it's horrible! I have that problem in my family, and when I hit my one and only 1-Test/4AD Trans cycle, I was constipated horribly for about a week. Finally crapped, then had the runs and got sick for a day or two. when I had the runs, I got my first bloody hemorrhoid and it's stuck with me ever since Son of a bitch!!!!! ha, ha, ha! It's okay though...6 months later and my ass only bleed occasionally, but hey...my muscles got biggerOriginally Posted by Nullifidian
Great results!! Can't wait to see the after pics...especially since you won't have those damn posing trunks on again. j/k
12-15-2004, 06:48 AM
Oh my!Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
I had often constipation when i was young. Thanks god its more than a year that i'm always regular. And that I'm not experiencing this on my cycle!
Veggies are my friends
12-15-2004, 07:24 PM
I've been great ever since I got off my cycle....better than normalOriginally Posted by Syr
Oh, except for when I got the worst sunburnof my life....needless to say, being that dehydrated wasnt great for my bowel movements lol....actually, that one topped the cycles constipation....it was absolutely the worst feeling ever...and yes, I've put myself in the hospital as a young one, so i know pain
12-15-2004, 07:33 PM
Oh man, i feel the pain.Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
I have light skin and i'm prone to sunburns.... even from solariums!
12-15-2004, 07:41 PM
He, he...it was horrible! I couldn't move for nearly 3 weeks!! I ended up getting my first B in a long time, too, because I didn't do anything during my summer calculus course and didn't study for my finals....it was like an 89% in the class!!! (What a dick teacher, huh? lol )Originally Posted by Syr
My g/f is Vietnamese, she and her family took me to the beach none of us has sunscreen. Well, to say the least, her and her tropical family got minimal sunburns. My g/f said it was the worst one she ever had in her life. That was pretty much just how I look after I'm at the beach for 15 minutes....damn I'm jealous!! I peeled from shoulder to shoulder an it was so deep when it peeled off, that the skin below hurt like hell to the touch. It was horrible....I guess us light skinned fellows weren't meant to spend 6 hrs at the beach without sunscreen I'll never do that again!! (I've spent all day in the sun before, but that was when I surfed a lot and my skin was used to it. This was the first time I hit the sun in a year!!!)
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