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    berraco47's Mdrol log


    Alright boys and girls,

    The time is here to finally dive into some deep waters and take the plunge with Mdrol..... a little about me 5"7" 203lbs about 14% bf. Been on a long bulk since August. I'd like to keep getting bigger and stronger until I feel I will have a good amount of muscle mass once I decide to cut.

    I previously ran a cycle of Pmag around March. I gained 10lbs and kept most if not all of my gains while using an OTC PCT. Strength has been up and down though. This time around I will be using Torem for PCT and other select goods. More on that later... anyways for now I feel like doing Mdrol because this will be my last cycle for the rest of the year and it might be awhile before I get to use anything again. I'm actually starting grad school in August so I don't know what my schedule will be like and if the PH's might interfere. So here is the cycle.

    Right now I'm on my preload week, I will be taking Hawthorn berries, Cycle assist, taurine, Fish oil, RyR, and a multi during cycle.

    Plan on running it 20/20/20

    PCT will be:
    Torem 3-5 days at 120
    7-10 at 90
    7 at 60
    7 at 30

    and something like this per one of Dr D's posts:

    wk1: Torm, ATD 25mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 75mg/d, FEN 3 caps
    wk2: " ", ATD 25mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 50mg/d, FEN 4 caps
    wk3: " ", ATD 25mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 25mg/d, FEN 5 caps
    wk4: " ", ATD 50mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d, FEN 6 caps
    wk5: ATD 50mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d
    wk6: ATD 50mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d

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    C'mon guys I know that this is like the millionth mdrol log, but not one post yet? Not even to say good luck? lol
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    why not 10/20/20/20
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    ^^^^^Yeah I feel you but I don't want to run it longer than 3 weeks just because of the risk of sides.
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    Day 1 Week 1


    Alright started off today with 20mg of Mdrol taking 10mg in the am and 10 later on about an hour before my workout. Felt good except that I felt a slight headache in the morning, but I know that I'll have to take care of my blood press while on cycle. I'm doing that by taking extra HB and other supporting supps. Todays workout was chest. I have to use the smith machine because that's all they have at my apt complex but I like to use it anyway to prevent injury.

    Flat Bench
    235x12
    245x10
    255x6 WTF????? I was going for eight here but I guess I burned out quick. LOL
    255x4 then 255x4 then 235x4


    Cable Crossovers
    50x12
    50x10
    50x10


    Incline Bench
    155x12
    175x10
    185x8
    195x7

    Decline Bench
    195x12
    205x10
    215x8
    215x8

    Incline dumbell flys
    40x12
    40x10
    40x10

    Today's workout was good nothing special since it's only day one. but I fizzed out early with the flat bench press. Next week should be better. Had a pretty good pump going on throughout the workout. Tomorrow is Shoulders, and arms.
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    Give it hell brother.. Ive ran the mdrol in the past.. Lethargy and back pumps were strong, however that can all be combatted if you have the right ancillaries... Gains were incredible also..

    Come to think of it.. I have never ran any steroid that did not work for me except for some bunk test over the years!!
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    The headaches happen to me on M-Drol also, but dont worry too much about it, they just go away if you dont think about it. It sounds crazy but me and M-drol had a real rough start (see my log) it was all in my head, since then I have pulsed it and done another cycle of it, I love the ****. You'll get this seriously hard feeling in your muscles at the gym, and they might feel like they are gonna rip the skin off of you, its great. It pumps you to all hell in the gym. Enjoy that **** while your on it. Mid summer a perfect time to do it.
    I get insomnia on it tho which hurts in the gym. And I have wacky dreams, serious nipple sensitivity too, like burning, I actually look forward to it now..... maybe this is prolactin based problem? I have yet to see any leakin though,
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    ^^^^^^ Thanks for the input guys! I got shoulders and arms today so I'll update later tonight with my lifts. I've actually been feeling pretty euphoric these last two days except for the mild headaches.


    @Nothingman-How did you recover from the nipple sensitivity after Mdrol? Did you ever have any gyno off of it?
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    Cool Day 2 Week 1


    Alright today was shoulders and arms and I did it as a three exercise superset because I didn't want to be in the gym for ever today. Everything was pretty good today except that I did notice that I was a little aggravated, but then again I'm always a little aggravated lol

    Since I'm aware that this may be one of the sides I'm staying aware of it and keeping myself in check. It was funny though because today I saw a guy in the gym at my apartment. He had 295 up on the incline bench, and I thought to myself "damn who's hitting that up?" Dude was not big at all so then I was pretty interested and of course his ROM was ****.... LOL I mean I don't touch my chest when I bench but I at least go parallel with the elbows. This dude was barely moving his elbows. Hahahaha flat chest and all. Jeez /rant


    Workout

    Triceps pushdowns V handle
    warmup
    70x12
    80x10
    80x10
    80x10

    Preacher curls
    85x10
    85x10
    85x8
    85x6 drop set 75x4

    Shoulder db lateral flys
    30x10 (4 sets)

    Shoulder Press (in front)
    135x12
    145x10
    155x10 (Felt good on this so I'm moving up to three sets of 155 next week just gotta watch the form)

    Triceps Pushdowns (straight handle bar)
    100x12
    100x10
    100x10
    100x10

    Hammer curls db
    40x10
    40x10
    40x10
    40x10

    Rear delt
    90x15 (to much lat usage)
    70x12
    80x12

    Overhead cable extensions
    70x10 (4 sets)

    Inward Hammer curl (don't know the name)
    40x8
    35x10 (3 sets)

    DB upright rows
    50x8 (3 sets)

    DB concentration curls
    30x7
    25x8 (three sets)

    More pushdowns (4 sets)

    Okay boys and girls that's all for now. Lot of volume but really it was just like 4 exercises per muscle group and around 4 sets per exercise. I gotta work on my arms because I feel they are one of my greatest weaknesses, my shoulders are good though but bi's and tri's need work. Hell everything needs work except my traps. For some reason they are pretty freaking big srs maybe I'll post up some pics if I figure out how to get them off my iphone and onto the cpu. Gotta go for now cuz wifey is giving me ****. Laters.
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    what's up bro! workout looks good!
    i was wondering what your split looks like, but i guess i'll wait for you to post it...
    i'll be following!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bear9 View Post
    what's up bro! workout looks good!
    i was wondering what your split looks like, but i guess i'll wait for you to post it...
    i'll be following!
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    What's up puto! It's about time you show up! LOL jk. Sup man I'm kinda keeping things loose you know letting my body talk to me no real strict schedule, but on cycle I want to try and hit everything once a week and do around 4 sets per exercise. Chest and bi's usually, legs, back, shoulders and tris. 4 workouts per week.
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    Day 3 Week 1


    Cardio and abs today. Did 25 mins moderate cardio on the elliptical today and then some ab work. Tomorrow is legs......should be good!
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    Day 4 Week 1


    Legs

    Okay I was pretty excited today about legs and the fact that it's been 4 days since I started Mdrol. I think that the compound is finally starting to kick in because I started to feel a slight pump in my arms and chest throughout the day. The workout went well and I definately felt a strengh increase. Heres the workout

    Warmup-Leg extensions 2 sets and then leg press 3 sets

    Leg press machine (it doesn't go very high so I do a one legged version just to prepare for squats)
    110x10 3 sets

    Squats
    245x12
    265x10
    275x8
    285x6 (I could've done 2 more but without a spotter I didn't want to risk it)

    Leg extensions
    110x12
    120x10
    130x10
    130x10 (huge pump in the quads by this point)

    Leg curls
    70x12
    80x10
    90x8
    90x8

    Romanian deadlifts
    135x12
    155x10 (3 sets)

    Single leg curls
    30x10 (3sets)

    Close stance leg press (for outer sweep)
    150x12
    150x12
    170x12

    Day off tomorrow and then Back workout to finish up the week. Should be an interesting next few days...
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    Day 5 Week 1


    Yesterday was Day 5 and it was an off day for me. Some of the things that I've noticed so far on Mdrol are definetly an increase in recovery time. I just worked out legs on Day 4 and the next day I was barely sore. My knees are sore but my quads and hams don't feel extremely sore like they usually do. Also after my chest workouts I'm usually sore for around 5 days, but on day 4 (Thursday) I was no longer sore on my chest.

    Other notes: Feeling slight sensitivity on my left nipple but nothing too drastic. Joints are feeling a little dry too but I hope the fish oil and Glucosamine/Chondr will help with that. I'm considering bumping up the Fish oil though.

    I've also been thinking that with increased recovery time it might be beneficial to train certain bodyparts twice a week, like chest which is my greatest concern. Problem is that this will probably not allow enough time for my joints to recover and I don't want to hurt them because joint injuries are something that can be a real pain in the ass for me.

    Alright will update later with a back workout. This should be fun...
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    your legs should be your biggest concern. not trying to be a doucher or anything but usually a well-rounded athletes squat should be atleast 100lbs above their bench.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReyMan View Post
    your legs should be your biggest concern. not trying to be a doucher or anything but usually a well-rounded athletes squat should be atleast 100lbs above their bench.
    When you say "usually" do you just mean in your opinion? I don't think there is a set rule on bench vs squat strength.... Anyways I'm happy with the development in my legs. Legs come naturally to me, but it's the upper body especially chest that I struggle with. It has taken me a long time to get to benching more than 225lbs for 10+ reps so excuse me if I say this is "MY" greatest concern. Feel free to address your own weak points on your OWN BODY. Anyway who lied to you and told you strength has anything to do with size? It's all about form.
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    Day 6 Week 1


    Back and traps

    Sorry but I'm writing this today for yesterdays workout. I had to do my workout a little earlier than I'm used to because my family and I had plans in the afternoon so I got up ate breakfast and worked out about 2 hours later. I like to workout in the evening or late afternoon because I feel stronger when I've had some meals in me. Anyway it was a pretty good workout except that I was a little weak.

    Barbell Row
    225x10 (3 sets)
    245x10

    Wide Grip front pulldown
    140x12
    150x10
    160x8
    150x10

    One arm smith machine rows ( I saw these done in a Brandon Curry video, and with my current gym setup they fit in well)
    115x10 (4sets)


    Cable rows
    150x10
    150x10
    160x8

    Deadlift
    295x10 (3 sets)

    Alright that's it for my lifts. Taking another rest day and then starting it over again with Chest on Monday. Hopefully I'll be feeling the full effects of Mdrol by then. I have noticed some strenght increases but nothing extraordinary. I thought yesterday would be different but I attribute the strength deficit to me having to work out early. I'll be doing some cardio and forearms/calves later today as well.
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    Day 7 Week 1


    Did cardio and calves today as well as forearm work, but the big news is that I'm up 7lbs!!!

    Starting weight: 204lbs

    Today: 211lbs

    7lbs in a week. We'll see if that translates into good results in the gym, but I did notice myself thicker in the chest area today.
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    Cool Happy Independence Day! Day 1 Week 2


    Chest- Had a great workout today felt pumped up throughout the workout. Nothing spectacular but I was feeling good and my chest looked really full and pumped. I don't remember my chest ever looking like that after a workout even though I didn't feel the huge pump people say they get from Mdrol. I did feel a bit stronger today in the gym. Even though I was not feeling really strong at first when I got under the weight it was as if my mind was really into the contraction and I was able to push through really well, but once I bottomed out I was done! Here is the workout.

    Flat bench
    235x12
    245x10
    255x8
    265x6

    Incline bench
    175x12
    185x10
    195x8
    195x6

    Cable flys
    40x12
    50x12 (3 sets)

    Decline bench
    195x10
    205x6
    195x8

    Incline flys
    40x10
    40x10
    45x10

    That's it for today. Hope everybody enjoyed their 4th of July!
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    Mdrol should push more water into the muscles via muscle glycogen uptake. I'm glad you are liking it. Thinking of running my first Mdrol cycle soon . Hows the sides?
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    Looks pretty solid so far bro, I would suggest extending to 4 or 5 weeks personally... I like running 5 weeks @ 20mg or the last week or 2 at 30mg which is pretty crazy to some but I have zero side effects from superdrol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Mdrol should push more water into the muscles via muscle glycogen uptake. I'm glad you are liking it. Thinking of running my first Mdrol cycle soon . Hows the sides?
    So far haven't had much sides except increased blood pressure. Libido has actually been a little elevated at times, but it's still pretty early. I'm anticipating shut down by next week but hopefully not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwfullyAmazin View Post
    Looks pretty solid so far bro, I would suggest extending to 4 or 5 weeks personally... I like running 5 weeks @ 20mg or the last week or 2 at 30mg which is pretty crazy to some but I have zero side effects from superdrol.
    Well that's cool man that you don't have any visible sides off of it but I'm not going to be playing around with my first cycle of Mdrol. I've herad to many bad stories so I'll try and keep it as safe as possible hehehe. Thanks for the advice and for tagging along.
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    Day 2 Week 2


    Arms- Today I worked out arms and decided to skip on shoulders because I didn't want to rush the shoulder workout. I'll have to fit that in somewhere else this week. Pump was good on the workout and I was somewhat stronger but nothing amazing. May have to bump up my cals some more and see if that helps any.

    Warm up then..

    Preacher curls felt really strong on this move. Like my grip was really strong.
    85x10
    85x11
    85x8

    superset with

    Tricep ext V bar
    70x12
    80x12
    80x12

    Hammer curls
    40x10 (3 sets)

    superset with

    Cable french press
    70x12
    80x10
    80x10

    Cross body hammer curls
    35x12 (3 sets)

    superset with

    Close grip bench press
    115x15
    135x12
    135x12
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    Day 3 Week 2


    Rest day- Just did some cardio today and then some ab work. Need to weigh myself this week. I'm curious to see if I've put any more weight on. Tomorrow is going to be a leg day or possibly a shoulder/back or just shoulders. I'll just see how I feel and go from there.
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    Looks like everything is going well

    Any hard sides yet?
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    Hey what's up mattrag! Thanks for checking up on me! I haven't had any harsh sides yet but we'll see what the rest of this week brings. So far so good. Libido has been good and I've been taking taurine for the back pumps. The only side I feel I need to worry about at this point is blood pressure and gyno as I think I'm prone to gyno and I was hypertensive on my last cycle of Pmag, but I've doubled my dose of HB and I'm also taking twice the amount of RYR so hopefully it will help in that regard. Been avoiding fried foods like the plague too LOL

    - Last night I decided to go out with some friends that are visiting from out of town. This hot chick that I met outside the bar was sitting down and her friend was passed the **** out on the outside the bar wearing her nice dress! We ended up helping the drunk girl sit up and put her into her friends car LOL, anyways this chick (the non drunk one) was eyeing me hard and she was pretty damn fine and she commented on my size! She said that I was looking big! LOL So hopefully this means that the Mdrol is working it's magic. I don't feel really big right now but we'll see at the end of the cycle. So far good results! Oh and I ended up getting the digits too. Holla!!
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    Hmm, what are your gyno symptoms? Flare up? puffy nips? lactating? P5P should help a little with the lactation. as far as flare ups I would think an AI would be interesting to add in to see if they are estrogen related side effects.

    Oh, and nice going on at the bar. As much as ppl always say "I don't like the big bulky look" girls love it. My wife always tells me I'm too big, or I have no need for the muscle (she is from Japan though so they usually see having muscle as unnecessary), but she likes that I have huge arms, a thick chest and back, and quads bigger than her torso. haha. I'm glad Mdrol is treating you well.
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    Day 4 Week 2


    Back and shoulders

    Alright decided to do back and shoulders today instead of legs because I was pretty tired from going out last night, still had an awesome workout today. I actually had an awesome pump in my back (more than I ever remember) the thing that I actually noticed was that today I decided to take my taurine after my workout and I think it might have given me a bigger pump. I felt back pumps coming on earlier during the day but not bad so I think I will stick to that for a while.

    Warmup

    Front lat pulldowns (superset with)
    140x12
    150x10
    160x8

    Shoulder press
    155x12 (PR)
    165x10 (PR)
    175x8 (PR)

    Barbell Rows superset with
    225x12 (PR)
    245x10 (3 sets)

    Lateral shoulder flys
    30x12 (3 sets)

    Cable rows superset with
    150x12
    170x8 (PR)
    160x10

    Rear delt machine
    70x12 (3 sets)

    Barbell shrugs
    225x12 (3 sets)

    One arm barbell rows superset with
    115x10 (3 sets)

    Db upright rows
    45x10 (3 sets)
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    Quote Originally Posted by berraco47 View Post
    Back and shoulders

    Alright decided to do back and shoulders today instead of legs because I was pretty tired from going out last night, still had an awesome workout today. I actually had an awesome pump in my back (more than I ever remember) the thing that I actually noticed was that today I decided to take my taurine after my workout and I think it might have given me a bigger pump. I felt back pumps coming on earlier during the day but not bad so I think I will stick to that for a while.

    Warmup

    Front lat pulldowns (superset with)
    140x12
    150x10
    160x8

    Shoulder press
    155x12 (PR)
    165x10 (PR)
    175x8 (PR)

    Barbell Rows superset with
    225x12 (PR)
    245x10 (3 sets)

    Lateral shoulder flys
    30x12 (3 sets)

    Cable rows superset with
    150x12
    170x8 (PR)
    160x10

    Rear delt machine
    70x12 (3 sets)

    Barbell shrugs
    225x12 (3 sets)

    One arm barbell rows superset with
    115x10 (3 sets)

    Db upright rows
    45x10 (3 sets)

    God your workouts are brutal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Hmm, what are your gyno symptoms? Flare up? puffy nips? lactating? P5P should help a little with the lactation. as far as flare ups I would think an AI would be interesting to add in to see if they are estrogen related side effects.

    Oh, and nice going on at the bar. As much as ppl always say "I don't like the big bulky look" girls love it. My wife always tells me I'm too big, or I have no need for the muscle (she is from Japan though so they usually see having muscle as unnecessary), but she likes that I have huge arms, a thick chest and back, and quads bigger than her torso. haha. I'm glad Mdrol is treating you well.
    Yeah man I agree people always say they don't want to get big or whatever but when they see someone looking swole that's the first thing they notice and many times they will comment favorably. Girls definitely like it when a guy is big and muscular.

    As far as gyno sides I've been having some aches and pains on my left side of my chest close the the armpit area. Nothing major it just feels like when your sore after doing chest. Idk what is yet but my nips look fine and I'm not lactating or anything. Hopefully the torem I got will help deal with any problems if they arise.

    Cheers
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    God your workouts are brutal!
    Thanks mattrag! I don't usually do shoulders and back because I do a lot of moves for my back as you can see. For some reason back is just becoming one of my favorite bodyparts to train so I don't mind hitting it hard. I usually hit back alone because of this but I was pressed for time yesterday and needed to get delts in too. Pretty happy with the presses though. I can't wait to shoulder press 225 someday.
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    Today was just some calf work and forearms. Tomorrow I'll hit up legs... =s
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Are you still exp any back pumps?
    What's up mw1! No I'm not really experiencing any bp but I've been taking taurine from the beginning of the cycle. Hoping I'll add more size by the end of the week. This week was strange because everyone says the size and strength kicks in during the second week and yes I've been stronger but not like freaky strength gains. Hopefully next week will bring some more changes.
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    Legs- Man today was a great workout! I finally felt the strength increase that everyone speaks about. It was crazy! I didn't push it to the limit because I have bad knees, but Mdrol really just makes it seem easier. On squats I just pushed and the weight went up easily...I was getting a little dizzy at times throughout the exercise though so I had to take it down a notch because I didn't want to pass out and get hurt and I had my girl spotting (fail). Here is my workout. After the squats I was dead though so I just tried to make it through the rest of the workout and push myself without passing out. I was short of breath though for sure.

    Warmup

    one legged leg press
    110x10 (2 sets)
    120x10

    SQUATS!!!!!!!
    255x12 (remarkably easy)
    275x10 (decided to step it up here and it was easy too) LOL (PR)
    285x8 (knew I could handle more at this point so...
    295x8 (Man on this last set I was beasting and I could've done at least 2 more but I didn't trust my spotter *see above, so I stayed here)

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    130x12
    140x10 (3 sets)

    Leg curls
    80x12
    90x10 (3 sets)

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    155x10 (3 sets)
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    Hey guys I have a question/need some advice. Tomorrow is the start of week 3 on my Mdrol cycle and while I feel that I have made some gains it's not quite what I expected at this point. From previous experience on my Pmag cycle I noticed that I'm a slow starter when it comes to oral steroids. On my Pmag cycle my gains didn't come til the last week of the cycle. I know that these to compounds are totally diff but I'm wondering one of two things:

    Should I....

    Extend the cycle another week to make it 20/20/20/20 or

    start upping the dose 20/20/30 and then consider a final fourth week from there?


    This is my first run of Mdrol and I've "ONLY" gained 7lbs so far on this cycle and my sides have been really mild. I have been having more frequent urination and I think it may be due to a slight increase in my prostate which I know is a risk when using DHT like compounds but I'm taking saw palmetto and I read that Torem has shown help in that (just what I recall feel free to correct).

    Anyways I would appreciate any input.... I also will be upping cals this week so lets hope that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by berraco47 View Post
    .... I also will be upping cals this week so lets hope that helps.
    This probably. Unless your gains are slowing I wouldn't add more unless you felt like you weren't getting anything. Less toxic is best.
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