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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    i wish i could consume 1900 calories a day and not loose my mind, i consume about 2700-2800 but i also burn about 1k in my training ALONE (weights and cardio) so w/e
    Man, my perception of food is so screwed up by the defunct thyroid. lol. I could eat ~2,700 cals and bulk (doing an hour of high intensity lifting and 20-30 minutes of cardio/day). So eating ~1500 cals on occasion hasn't been that out of the ordinary; never really bothered me, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Dexaprine will make that go away. Take a Dexaprine in the morning and forget about food for bout 12-14 hours unless you want to eat. I have been truly amazed with how well Dexaprine controls my appetite.
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    I'm going to have to look into that. If that does what you say it does then that would be awesome
    I concur, Dexaprine DESTROYS appetite for several hours. I take 2 tabs, and I'm good to go until it's time to break fast (I have a high stim tolerance though, most people can do with 1 tab). It really is the best thing I've tried for appetite control, I need to count my calories to make sure I eat enough at the end of the day!
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    Wow dude I'm way jealous of the physique! Hopefully lean gains will bring me somewhere near that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
    Wow dude I'm way jealous of the physique! Hopefully lean gains will bring me somewhere near that!
    **** works man! Seriously! The best thing I've taken from the diet is the fasting period, and quitting soda. Those two made a huge difference, and then once I started counting the calories, **** got real! I love it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by diablosho View Post
    **** works man! Seriously! The best thing I've taken from the diet is the fasting period, and quitting soda. Those two made a huge difference, and then once I started counting the calories, **** got real! I love it!
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    Oh for sure! I cut out soda and energy drinks (which have been 1-3 a day for like 8 years with a few breaks). Drank last weekend and ate ****ty Saturday and still managed to lose a half inch on my tummy in after the first week of LG. which is awesome cause I had been eating pretty clean for like a month and my tummy losses had plateaud
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
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    Oh for sure! I cut out soda and energy drinks (which have been 1-3 a day for like 8 years with a few breaks). Drank last weekend and ate ****ty Saturday and still managed to lose a half inch on my tummy in after the first week of LG. which is awesome cause I had been eating pretty clean for like a month and my tummy losses had plateaud
    It's AMAZING how much sodas and energy drinks really do affect weight gain! I always blew it off as more "nutrition nut paranoia", but in this case, it is SO true! Hopefully my insulin "system" (is that even the right word for it) goes back to normal (instead of pre-diabetic where it was when I started Lean Gains). I'm really glad it's working for you, and I haven't seen it not work for anybody yet, which is really inspirational.
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    Good stuff and definitely get the Dexa man there has never been anything like it as far as I am concerned. 1 pill and all day energy and suppression of appetite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Good stuff and definitely get the Dexa man there has never been anything like it as far as I am concerned. 1 pill and all day energy and suppression of appetite.
    How's it compare to Ephedrine, as far as appetite suppression (I couldn't care less about thermogenic properties!)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diablosho View Post
    How's it compare to Ephedrine, as far as appetite suppression (I couldn't care less about thermogenic properties!)?
    I actually like Dexaprine better than ECA, Clen, Albuterol or anything else TBH when it comes to appetite suppression. Total appetite domination IMO!
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    Crazy, I don't think I've ever heard of Dexaprine? Is that the one released by I-Force?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diablosho View Post
    It's AMAZING how much sodas and energy drinks really do affect weight gain! I always blew it off as more "nutrition nut paranoia", but in this case, it is SO true! Hopefully my insulin "system" (is that even the right word for it) goes back to normal (instead of pre-diabetic where it was when I started Lean Gains). I'm really glad it's working for you, and I haven't seen it not work for anybody yet, which is really inspirational.
    yah man, soda is absolutely a KILLER. I used to drink a 2 liter of mountain dew at least a day when I first started working out. And then I decided I was going to get serious about dieting as well my sophomore year of high school so I woke up one day and told myself I wasn't gonna drink soda anymore, and I haven't had a sip of it since then, which was like......9 years ago, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    yah man, soda is absolutely a KILLER. I used to drink a 2 liter of mountain dew at least a day when I first started working out. And then I decided I was going to get serious about dieting as well my sophomore year of high school so I woke up one day and told myself I wasn't gonna drink soda anymore, and I haven't had a sip of it since then, which was like......9 years ago, lol.
    The force is strong with this one (I say in my best Yoda voice LOL)! I had to stop SLOWLY (and I still have one every few days). I'll cut it out eventually, but to be honest, it was easier to quit smoking than it is to quit drinking soda!!! And it's not the caffeine either. I think I'm addicted to sugar! Is that even possible!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by diablosho View Post
    Crazy, I don't think I've ever heard of Dexaprine? Is that the one released by I-Force?
    Yep, iForce. PM VaughnTrue and he should send you some samples to try it out.
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    im pretty sure i have insulin resistence and or defunctioning thyroid :O
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    Good to know! Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    im pretty sure i have insulin resistence and or defunctioning thyroid :O
    What makes you think that? I didn't even know until I had my physical, so I'm curious what symptoms I should have looked for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    im pretty sure i have insulin resistence and or defunctioning thyroid :O
    It's worth looking into.

    I still want/need to get my blood levels checked in terms of insulin resistance/sensitivity or whatever just since my father is diabetic and I was barely outside the range of pre-diabetic my first year of grad school (so almost 4 years ago). And I could have saved a ton of time and trouble if I would have found out about my thyroid all that time ago. I'm a huge advocate of blood work, now, and will certainly do annual blood work of all my key levels.
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    Yep, I get a complete physical every year. They're free through my insurance company, so why not! Free bloodwork, and if you do bad on a value, they give you advice, and then recheck you in 6 months, again for free. I'm due to have my fasting glucose checked again here in a month or so, so hopefully I've really helped myself. I'll be crushed if it's the same, and devastated if it goes up! I also advocate at least yearly testing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    I actually like Dexaprine better than ECA, Clen, Albuterol or anything else TBH when it comes to appetite suppression. Total appetite domination IMO!
    Sounds like good stuff. I took the original Stimulant X back in college when I was 20 and I had to remind myself to eat; it was bad. I also didn't know a lick about nutrition back then (just eat less, lose weight). Unfortunately, the negative sides of that product outweighed the positives and I had to drop it after a week.

    Anymore, though, I don't need anything for appetite suppression. Even now I find it hard to consume the number of cals I should and more importantly, the amount of protein that I should (since cals are useless to me, still, and I'm mostly concerned with making sure I don't lose muscle). I don't know if it's just a shift in my mentality, physiological changes or the Synthroid.

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    yah man, soda is absolutely a KILLER. I used to drink a 2 liter of mountain dew at least a day when I first started working out. And then I decided I was going to get serious about dieting as well my sophomore year of high school so I woke up one day and told myself I wasn't gonna drink soda anymore, and I haven't had a sip of it since then, which was like......9 years ago, lol.
    I cut out regular soda in April of my sophomore year of college. I still remember the very day. Then, a couple years ago, I cut out all diet soda, too, for the most part. I'll have one on occasion now and every so often I'll have some juice. When I play basketball, I'll have Gatorade, but outside of that, I solely drink water (1.5-2 gallons/day). I didn't have that hard of a time quitting, but I sure did love my Mountain Dew lol. It would be impossible for me to go back to drinking regular soda again, though, just knowing the amount of calories in there lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diablosho View Post
    Yep, I get a complete physical every year. They're free through my insurance company, so why not! Free bloodwork, and if you do bad on a value, they give you advice, and then recheck you in 6 months, again for free. I'm due to have my fasting glucose checked again here in a month or so, so hopefully I've really helped myself. I'll be crushed if it's the same, and devastated if it goes up! I also advocate at least yearly testing!
    Amen, man. I'm finally taking full advantage of my insurance. In fact, I'm off to my first chiropractor session of my life in another hour. You need to time that blood work around any cycles you plan on doing, so you can get the free rechecks on it haha. And I'm sure your glucose levels will come back looking good. Whenever it happens, let me know how it goes for you.
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    Ya, it's funny. I just started a cycle yesterday (m1,4add), so in about 6 weeks, I'll probably get rechecked (I'll just email my doc and ask him to throw in test/estradiol/lh). He's pretty cool about that stuff. I've gotta see an endo a few days after my cycle ends, so I'm sure there'll be a recheck after that as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Amen, man. I'm finally taking full advantage of my insurance. In fact, I'm off to my first chiropractor session of my life in another hour. You need to time that blood work around any cycles you plan on doing, so you can get the free rechecks on it haha. And I'm sure your glucose levels will come back looking good. Whenever it happens, let me know how it goes for you.
    I need to go see a chiro, been waiting on my insurance to kick in. I just switched jobs.......

    My neck is effed up from a stupid accident (not lifting) and my range of motion has been limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diablosho View Post
    Ya, it's funny. I just started a cycle yesterday (m1,4add), so in about 6 weeks, I'll probably get rechecked (I'll just email my doc and ask him to throw in test/estradiol/lh). He's pretty cool about that stuff. I've gotta see an endo a few days after my cycle ends, so I'm sure there'll be a recheck after that as well!
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    I need to go see a chiro, been waiting on my insurance to kick in. I just switched jobs.......

    My neck is effed up from a stupid accident (not lifting) and my range of motion has been limited.
    I've been noticing an imbalance for a while that's just gotten far worse. I notice it even when I'm sitting in the car driving (left side feels rolled foward) or sitting in the recliner. I have no idea how out of wack it all is right now. That always sucks when switching jobs; I had to wait a month for my benefits to kick in here and wherever I go next I'll have to see if they can kick in sooner since I'm on meds for life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    I actually like Dexaprine better than ECA, Clen, Albuterol or anything else TBH when it comes to appetite suppression. Total appetite domination IMO!
    This is 100% true and Dexa is a smoother energy, you are cracked out like you can be on ECA for the first hour after your dose. Plus, I don't have to take a caffeine pill, E, then remember to do it again and early enough so I can take a light pre-workout. With Dexa I take it around 6:45 AM, can fast until 2-3PM, throw down 1 scoop of Scivation Novem then rock the gym or cardio. I tried slim extreme, it was a nightmare as the energy was too much and your jaw would clench. Dexa is strong on day one or two, then it smooths out and your just rocking and rolling. Best diet/stim pill I have ever tried hands down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    I cut out regular soda in April of my sophomore year of college. I still remember the very day. Then, a couple years ago, I cut out all diet soda, too, for the most part. I'll have one on occasion now and every so often I'll have some juice. When I play basketball, I'll have Gatorade, but outside of that, I solely drink water (1.5-2 gallons/day). I didn't have that hard of a time quitting, but I sure did love my Mountain Dew lol. It would be impossible for me to go back to drinking regular soda again, though, just knowing the amount of calories in there lol.

    yah man I feel u. Water is all I drink too, just carry a gallon jug around all day long. It comes and goes from and to work and to the gym and basically everywhere with me, I try and make sure I have to refill it like twice a day. And yes, I agree, I couldn't even stomach soda again if I had to, it sounds absolutely revolting to me now, that's just too...syrupy and sweet, lol.
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    DAY 4

    A good burn day and have a nice caloric defecit overall. I burned 600 Cal's in about 50 minutes on cardio and total Cal's today are about 1750 so I'm pretty happy with that. I probably will pick up some dexaprine soon to help hunger because burn days can be rough. After I eat my fast breaking meal, I am still hungry a lot of times so that would help a lot. One of the things that seems to help me a lot is diet soda. Drinking a diet soda in between meals seems to curb cravings for food a little. Thank God for diet soda!!

    I felt a little bit of a headache this afternoon that progressed into a migraine and I also felt pretty lethargic. If these are the sides from the anabolics I hope that means gains ate just around the corner!! I will probably increase the dose of the Trenazone to 1.5ml starting Monday. I am at 1ml now and will finish the week that way. I'm also at 75mg hella. I will go to 100 eventually, but will stay at 75 for probably at least another week.

    Its back to the iron tomorrow and back to big meals! Its legs and shoulders and I'm hoping to move some weight and kill that sh*t!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
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    I've been noticing an imbalance for a while that's just gotten far worse. I notice it even when I'm sitting in the car driving (left side feels rolled foward) or sitting in the recliner. I have no idea how out of wack it all is right now. That always sucks when switching jobs; I had to wait a month for my benefits to kick in here and wherever I go next I'll have to see if they can kick in sooner since I'm on meds for life.
    You definitely have something going on beast. I am a regular at the chiropractor and know all what you are talking about as I know when I experience those things its time to go. They will get you straightened out and its very worth it. I got sidelined with bad back problems on my last cycle...not fun. I couldn't do much in the gym for a couple weeks and it really affected my gains. I still can't do SLDL even on a good day and good mornings are out of the question. Squats and bent over rows can be rough for me too. Bad thing is there's nothing I can do but get adjusted. I have a birth defect in the pelvic bone that causes the spinal shift over time....

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    A few of my low cal life savers for burn days:

    1. BCAA / EAA
    2. Dexaprine
    3. Xylitol Gum
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    5. Scandinavian Bran Crisps (10 calories, 5g fiber, filling when taken with water)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    You definitely have something going on beast. I am a regular at the chiropractor and know all what you are talking about as I know when I experience those things its time to go. They will get you straightened out and its very worth it. I got sidelined with bad back problems on my last cycle...not fun. I couldn't do much in the gym for a couple weeks and it really affected my gains. I still can't do SLDL even on a good day and good mornings are out of the question. Squats and bent over rows can be rough for me too. Bad thing is there's nothing I can do but get adjusted. I have a birth defect in the pelvic bone that causes the spinal shift over time....

    Chiropractors are life savers for me
    How did you find out about the birth defect? First I've heard of that, maybe that's what I have! I've been to every doctore besides a chiropractor, so maybe that's next.
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    Dang man you have made some nice progress yourself. Definitely subbing this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diablosho View Post
    How did you find out about the birth defect? First I've heard of that, maybe that's what I have! I've been to every doctore besides a chiropractor, so maybe that's next.
    Its plain as day on an xray. My right side almost looks like someone took a bite out of it and there's a piece missing.
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    Dang man you have made some nice progress yourself. Definitely subbing this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    You definitely have something going on beast. I am a regular at the chiropractor and know all what you are talking about as I know when I experience those things its time to go. They will get you straightened out and its very worth it. I got sidelined with bad back problems on my last cycle...not fun. I couldn't do much in the gym for a couple weeks and it really affected my gains. I still can't do SLDL even on a good day and good mornings are out of the question. Squats and bent over rows can be rough for me too. Bad thing is there's nothing I can do but get adjusted. I have a birth defect in the pelvic bone that causes the spinal shift over time....

    Chiropractors are life savers for me
    Got in there this afternoon and going back to go over the X rays in the morning. Guy was very cool to work with. The good thing for me is there's no pain at all, so it hasn't kept me out of the gym. However, I don't want to continue making the imbalance any worse, so getting it fixed is on my list of priorities. I feel like I'm living in doctors' offices anymore lol.

    BTW, glad to see you posting in here again, Rick. We were getting bored hijacking your thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Its plain as day on an xray. My right side almost looks like someone took a bite out of it and there's a piece missing.
    Oh man, that sucks! I definitely don't have that. I really wish they could figure out what's wrong with me, so I could finally be rid of these damn pain pills. Unfortunately, sometimes I wake up and cannot move from the waist down. Feels like a door stop wedge is driven into my spine at the tailbone, stopping me from bending/twisting at the waist, and lasts for days. Literally feels like I'm grinding down my spine when I do move, and is quite seriously the worst pain (as in knock you the **** out pain) I have ever experienced, and they keep saying they don't know why! ****in sucks! Anyways, great job on the cardio man! I just started doing extra reps/sets to increase the cardio aspect of my weight training, since I can't run anymore. Oh, and you can go to hell for that loving soda comment! LOL! Just playin'! Keep killin that **** Rick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    A few of my low cal life savers for burn days:

    1. BCAA / EAA
    2. Dexaprine
    3. Xylitol Gum
    4. PowerChews
    5. Scandinavian Bran Crisps (10 calories, 5g fiber, filling when taken with water)
    6. Miracle Noodles (all fiber, zero calories)
    7. Walden Farms (dressings, syrups and dips are the best bets, jellies are okay too)
    8. Lots of water
    Lots of good ideas Milas!! I already do BCAAs, powerchews and water. Diet soda helps me too
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    Diablosho I would check out the chiropractor. They can tell a lot by the way you walk, stand etc. and make adjustments that take that pain away. That may be your problem.

    MWB....some of us aren't lucky enough to have a job that we can post at work, so you'll just have to wait until my blue collar a$$ gets home to update...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Diablosho I would check out the chiropractor. They can tell a lot by the way you walk, stand etc. and make adjustments that take that pain away. That may be your problem.

    MWB....some of us aren't lucky enough to have a job that we can post at work, so you'll just have to wait until my blue collar a$$ gets home to update...
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    I'm about to go hit the gym. I dosed 1ml Trenazone and 75mg Hella. Morning weight at 170.5 and noticeably leaner. I'm hoping to have a great workout today and enjoying some food!!
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    yuh!!!
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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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