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    like this is how i do

    week one
    chest heavy (barbell bench, heavy dips, heavy flies, heavy incline)
    Back heavy(heavy lats, heavy mid/up/low back)
    shoulders heavy
    day off
    arms heavy(deads done here)
    Legs heavy
    all reps in heavy week are 6-8

    week 2
    chest- sculpting/tut- all dumbell work here with concentrated SLOW movements
    back some tut, but mostly higher reps
    shoulders- tut- lots of dumbell work here higher reps
    day off
    arms- super set bi/tris
    legs- no squats other movements


    I promise you- bodybuilding is not about POWER its way different(this is directed solely at you bbellbeast- as you are not an idiot and have good exerpience this is just a general statement) its about volumization, form, repititions, and lastly strength.


    to summerize- i would rather be able to squat 350 12 -15 times than 450 5 times



    this comes from a national level competitor- scott bjork who has kinda taken me under his wing- yes he lifts at my gym, and yes im getting pics so IT DID HAPPEN ***S



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    there is only pne problem. conditioning of muscle fibres. the muscle adapts to the highest load and builds a protective layer. this is also known as the rbe, repeated bout effect. very quickly this weight becomes ineffective at traumatizing the muscle so no more growth is happening. lowering the weight will do nothing, no matter how much pump, tut, isolation etc.
    the only way to trigger growth is to train above current level of conditioning. it doesnt need to be high and can be partially reversed, so extremely heavy weights are not needed, but lowering weight will result in muscle loss.

    it may be a slightly different story on lots of androgens though. after a certain level the rbe is eliminated basically but i am not 100% sure on the science behind that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redman24 View Post
    there is only pne problem. conditioning of muscle fibres. the muscle adapts to the highest load and builds a protective layer. this is also known as the rbe, repeated bout effect. very quickly this weight becomes ineffective at traumatizing the muscle so no more growth is happening. lowering the weight will do nothing, no matter how much pump, tut, isolation etc.
    the only way to trigger growth is to train above current level of conditioning. it doesnt need to be high and can be partially reversed, so extremely heavy weights are not needed, but lowering weight will result in muscle loss.

    it may be a slightly different story on lots of androgens though. after a certain level the rbe is eliminated basically but i am not 100% sure on the science behind that.
    this is true- if reps are kept the same- but when you increase repitition, then the muscle is put under a new workload, because- its doing more reps of said weight
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    im sorry, im going to take the word of someone who has their NPC card over anyone on this site- the guy weighs 285 lbs- he is a monster.


    key- increase weight with reps=growth


    if i can up weight, while keeping reps high- growth occours
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    i understand. but what i am stating is science. actually in terms of traumatization every rep is the same. thats why custering works.
    im sure this competitor has many valuable experiences more than me or others on this board, but the sheer accumulation of muscle tissue in this case is not due to knowledge but genetics, diet, steroids and discipline. surely there are many things necessary for competition other than simply getting bigger since there are many big guys but not many who are good enough to compete.

    however, if you feel what you are doing is working then by all means keep doing it, i have also learned to go by intuition rather than by pure scientific facts. also, training should be fun and surely is when training with someone so advanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    1-testosterone has an anabolic androgenic ratio of 2:1

    it is NOT the same as testosterone, it does not cause bloat, and is good for lean gains, and promoting fat loss


    its like test- on steroids kinda
    Its actually very potent, about 2x as anabolic as test
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    Quote Originally Posted by redman24 View Post
    i understand. but what i am stating is science. actually in terms of traumatization every rep is the same. thats why custering works.
    im sure this competitor has many valuable experiences more than me or others on this board, but the sheer accumulation of muscle tissue in this case is not due to knowledge but genetics, diet, steroids and discipline. surely there are many things necessary for competition other than simply getting bigger since there are many big guys but not many who are good enough to compete.

    however, if you feel what you are doing is working then by all means keep doing it, i have also learned to go by intuition rather than by pure scientific facts. also, training should be fun and surely is when training with someone so advanced.
    no no no im not disagreeing what im doing is this

    increasing weight while keeping reps high, as im not trying to buiold right now
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    And man, I hate to break it to you... You honestly don't know what you're doing. For how many months you've been on(i lost count) and for how much AAS you've taken, not that great of results. Yeah you've lost weight, honestly you could have done this without AAS, with proper diet/cardio/training.

    You seem to think you have all this mass hidden under the fat. But now that it's almost gone, you really don't show much mass. Esp for how long you've been on and how much AAS etc.

    Take a look at guys like morry, and quarcus. They made an amazing transformation in under 12 weeks. These guys know what they're doing. You on the other hand have been on for what 6-12 months and what progress have you made? Lost some weight finally? Have you gained any muscle? Doesn't look like it really in the pics. You could have easily done this natty. But instead you pump numerous AAS into your body thinking thats the solution.

    So don't put me on blast schwell. I know what bodybuilding is about and am way more experienced than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    And man, I hate to break it to you... You honestly don't know what you're doing. For how many months you've been on(i lost count) and for how much AAS you've taken, not that great of results. Yeah you've lost weight, honestly you could have done this without AAS, with proper diet/cardio/training.

    You seem to think you have all this mass hidden under the fat. But now that it's almost gone, you really don't show much mass. Esp for how long you've been on and how much AAS etc.

    Take a look at guys like morry, and quarcus. They made an amazing transformation in under 12 weeks. These guys know what they're doing. You on the other hand have been on for what 6-12 months and what progress have you made? Lost some weight finally? Have you gained any muscle? Doesn't look like it really in the pics. You could have easily done this natty. But instead you pump numerous AAS into your body thinking thats the solution.

    So don't put me on blast schwell. I know what bodybuilding is about and am way more experienced than you.
    Blast? im not blasting you, i never said you dont know what your talking about? In fact i even said you are experienced!

    i have actually! My fat is not almost gone sir, i still need 20lbs gone, and as far as lbm gains go- i have actually aquired substantial size- in fact it has given me stretch marks i gained to much too quickly.

    so in conclusion: I know your experienced, if i said you weren't then i dont know what I was thinking.
    and i must disagree with you in saying i haven't made much progress,
    and i must agree with you that in the future i will not use as much AAS
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    here are cycle progression pics though- well nvm i dont have em on camera ne more but here
    these first two are from about 7 months ago



    and the last ones are current- so, i am happy with my progress, but in the future i have found i am going to use less AAS either way



    ohhh actually here are more pre cycle and som more current


    so yes i think i have made good progress sir, on this point i disagree with you
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    listen bish, i was doing isolation/tut form here, if i wanted i would be doing 40 lbs but i dont care about how much weight i lift, i care about how much weight it looks like i lift bish ass bish



    bodybuilding- isn't all about weight, its about sculpting the muscles there


    homo



    so
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    besides one week is HEAVY next week light(isolation TUT) i find my body reacts very well to this on a cut, if i was bulking i would be hitting heavy every week
    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    like this is how i do

    week one
    chest heavy (barbell bench, heavy dips, heavy flies, heavy incline)
    Back heavy(heavy lats, heavy mid/up/low back)
    shoulders heavy
    day off
    arms heavy(deads done here)
    Legs heavy
    all reps in heavy week are 6-8

    week 2
    chest- sculpting/tut- all dumbell work here with concentrated SLOW movements
    back some tut, but mostly higher reps
    shoulders- tut- lots of dumbell work here higher reps
    day off
    arms- super set bi/tris
    legs- no squats other movements


    I promise you- bodybuilding is not about POWER its way different(this is directed solely at you bbellbeast- as you are not an idiot and have good exerpience this is just a general statement) its about volumization, form, repititions, and lastly strength.


    to summerize- i would rather be able to squat 350 12 -15 times than 450 5 times



    this comes from a national level competitor- scott bjork who has kinda taken me under his wing- yes he lifts at my gym, and yes im getting pics so IT DID HAPPEN ***S



    yuh
    Ok.

    Guess I just took these as a bit disrespectful schwell.

    What I see in your pics, I honestly think you could have made this progress natty. I really do. Or in alot less time with ALOT less AAS. See how some of these other guys are working so damn hard. quarcus was doing fasted cardio everyday, not 1 day off from the gym, no cheats ever. What I'm saying is I feel you need to put more work in to get the results you seek and use less AAS.

    Thats all. It takes alot to piss me off, and I guess I took your posts the wrong way.
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    agreed, i should have used LESS AAS, and in the future im going to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    agreed, i should have used LESS AAS, and in the future im going to.
    That's good to hear. One can achieve great results in just 12 weeks. But you gotta put the work in man! I mean some serious work! Look at that boy morry, intense ass workouts plus alot of cardio. Look at quarcus log if you haven't.. I just hope you recover fast and don't have any issues from being on so long. I know you'll have a solid PCT so you should be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    And man, I hate to break it to you... You honestly don't know what you're doing. For how many months you've been on(i lost count) and for how much AAS you've taken, not that great of results. Yeah you've lost weight, honestly you could have done this without AAS, with proper diet/cardio/training.

    You seem to think you have all this mass hidden under the fat. But now that it's almost gone, you really don't show much mass. Esp for how long you've been on and how much AAS etc.

    Take a look at guys like morry, and quarcus. They made an amazing transformation in under 12 weeks. These guys know what they're doing. You on the other hand have been on for what 6-12 months and what progress have you made? Lost some weight finally? Have you gained any muscle? Doesn't look like it really in the pics. You could have easily done this natty. But instead you pump numerous AAS into your body thinking thats the solution.

    So don't put me on blast schwell. I know what bodybuilding is about and am way more experienced than you.
    I'm sorry to this man, but it has to said...I completely agree with this statement. I don't post much on this board but have been lurking for the past 2 years or so...
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    no one apologize for posting their opinions PLEASE. Im not thin skinned, and if someone sais something in a respectful manner, then why should I be upset????

    I agree, i should have used less AAS, but I am happy with my results,

    Im not going to argue, there is no point. Im not saying i know everything about bodybuilding- thats ignorant, i have alot more to learn no doubt. But im pleased with my body which for me is what it's about....anyways tomorrow is going to be chest/abs/cardio

    im doing something new here

    im going to do heavy weight with as much reps as i can

    talkin 230-240 on bench press for 8 four sets etc


    incorperating some new things

    cardio is going to be upped to 30 minutes and yuh
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    rock on schwell

    and dont forget to send me the info on the bicep sculpting
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    okay, i have had this up my sleave

    pct begins in 2 days.

    it will be 6 weeks long


    i will be saving masteron prop for a future run, when i cycle again it will probably be another cut to really get lean


    here is diet/training layout
    split
    day 1 chest/abs/cardio
    day 2 off
    day 3 legs/arms
    day 4 cardio
    day 5 back/shoulders
    day6 cardio
    day 7-repeat.

    diet- on days with weights AND cardio-3000 calories
    carbs-150 (from fruits/beans NO GRAINS)
    protein-350
    fats-100
    on days with just weights-2800 calories
    carbs-100
    protein 350
    fats-100
    on off(cardio days) 2500 calories
    carbs-50
    protein 300-350
    fats-80-100
    refeed days are out of the picture- as I now have carbs consistently in the diet there is no need for them

    reps will be lowerd to the 8 rep range

    diet- fruits, olive oil/almond butter/eggs for fats
    protein- chicken/eggs/whey/LEAN beef/fish for protein


    supplements
    clomiphene
    phytoserms
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    CJC 1295 WITH DAC
    creatine/bcaa/multi etc.


    next cycle- is no sooner than august/september- but probably round OCT.
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    i dont know why people always refer to morrys results. he does look fantastic and has great strength but if someone on a german forum reads his dosage he would be banned...lol. and he has done lots of stuff in the past, including igf, etc.
    granted his cycle was a success and i am in no way trying to critizice, but you have to realize that schwell didnt have the same base.

    and yes, schwells cycle was too long, and too many compounds, but he is not stupid, if he doesnt tolerate something he takes it out, as opposed to the people who plan there 12 weeker, get everything in advance and then suffer 12 weeks through tren horror and 4 weeks through clomid emotiona..that to me is much more dumb.
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    those pics are from longer than 7 months ago you've been on this cycle nearly that long. you started in november
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    those where pre cycle ehh, didnt have any previous though


    they where like 9 months ago


    cycle has been 5 months


    i will post bloods i have a pct log going
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    Ok.

    Guess I just took these as a bit disrespectful schwell.

    What I see in your pics, I honestly think you could have made this progress natty. I really do. Or in alot less time with ALOT less AAS. See how some of these other guys are working so damn hard. quarcus was doing fasted cardio everyday, not 1 day off from the gym, no cheats ever. What I'm saying is I feel you need to put more work in to get the results you seek and use less AAS.

    Thats all. It takes alot to piss me off, and I guess I took your posts the wrong way.
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    I'm sorry to this man, but it has to said...I completely agree with this statement. I don't post much on this board but have been lurking for the past 2 years or so...
    Agreed with these. I have no experience of steroid use so cannot testify to how much you can change your body in that time with the right drugs.

    To me, the changes made were not impressive enough to warrant the 'excessive' use. Excessive being subjective.

    A lot of people kept saying "silence the haters" etc as if he was answering queries with sheer results and leading from the front. To me this was not the case, it was more that people gave up on offering opposing views. The results were not enough to silence my concerns, I just stopped entering the thread.

    As long as he is happy with the results for the drugs taken then congratulations to him. It isn't to say everyone else would be happy with the same results but that isn't the point.

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    pct log
    Schwellingtons PCT


    next cycle- much more moderate as i had to learn the hard way- gains to infact slow down after about 15 weeks- i suppose it's either the androgen receptor downregulation theory(i say theory because it isn't yet conclusive as to whether or not these receptors become clogged, although in my experience SOMETHING HAPPENS) or the chemical in the body known as myostatin- which regulates growth in a human being kicks in.


    next cycle will NOT exceed 16 weeks- probably be around 12 probably keeping it at 12


    next cycle

    1-12 test prop 500mg/wk
    1-4 anadrol 100mg ed
    1-12 NPP 400mg/wk



    cycle wont begin til i have shed the rest of bodyfat

    no im not cutting in pct- details are in pct log, but after pct I WILL cut with OSTARINE/cjc1295


    anyways thanks for following to everyone, and like the britt said, If I am happy, thats all I really care about, im not trying to prove anything, just enjoying the journy AND CONTINUING TO LEARN ALONG THE WAY!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hcc5881 View Post
    It's been a hell of a ride but the journey is over...
    FOR NOW
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    those where pre cycle ehh, didnt have any previous though


    they where like 9 months ago


    cycle has been 5 months


    i will post bloods i have a pct log going
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    thanks bro! ^^^^^ okay so those where pre cycle....


    look at me now, packed on NICE mass and cut alot of fat. NO I DID NOT NEED THE AMOUNT OF AAS I USED AND I WILL NEVER USE THIS AMOUNT AGAIN


    but i made great progress, and to summerize


    i have learned to difficult way More is not better with AAS


    time+AAS+training+diet= growth

    dont NEED aas for growth- they just speed it up

    props 2k1s


    here r more post cycle pics
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    Okay, pic #2 shows some progress! Esp in those legs. But man you got some weird posing brah, need to work on that a little
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    Okay, pic #2 shows some progress! Esp in those legs. But man you got some weird posing brah, need to work on that a little
    LOL agreed
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    the over sized speedo is a good look brah
    Comic Sans makes me feel gangsta
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    the over sized speedo is a good look brah
    Its like a cross between a sumo outfit and a diaper LOL
    True story:

    I give a f**K!!
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    And too much AAS or not, you're still alive, seem healthy, still able to hit the weights, post about it, etc, so I say THANKS!!!! For doing this kerazy cycle for all to see for ourselves just what happens when a sh!tload of AAS is cycled against almost all advice, and for posting how you felt, how the intensity was, what side effects, etc, and of course the pics.....

    Definately a learning experience!!
    True story:

    I give a f**K!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by waynaferd View Post
    And too much AAS or not, you're still alive, seem healthy, still able to hit the weights, post about it, etc, so I say THANKS!!!! For doing this kerazy cycle for all to see for ourselves just what happens when a sh!tload of AAS is cycled against almost all advice, and for posting how you felt, how the intensity was, what side effects, etc, and of course the pics.....

    Definately a learning experience!!
    yes, i will never use that much again my next cycle is much more conservative lol learning experience for sure
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