Epi Pulse Cycle DC Training

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  1. Day 17: Wednesday 11/18/2009 50mg

    Woke up around 3:30 and took 40mg Epi with 4g fishoil and got back in bed until 5AM, then took Vasocharge/Xtend. Headed to the gym around 5:30AM for chest/shoulder/back/tricep day.

    Gains are from Day 3.

    Incline Smith Bench Press: 200 x 7/3/1 (+10lbs)
    Smith Military Press: 160 x 6/3/2 (+10lbs)
    Chinups: 13/5/3 (+1)
    Cable Row: 250 x 8/4/3 (+10lbs) - maxed out the stack, will try for deeper contraction and really squeeze shoulder blades next time, and more reps
    Reverse Grip Smith Bench Press: 200 x 8/4/1 (+10lbs)

    Extreme stretching chest/triceps/shoulders

    Got back and took the remaining 10mg Epi with 4g fishoil. Took PWO shake (30g hydro whey, 75g Cho).

    Strength: Been going up on lifts, but not insane jumps in strenght. Up about 10-20lbs per lift. It seems like it will be maintainable.
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Up ~4lbs and starting to lean out. Good!
    Pumps/Vascularity: Arms got really pumped near the end, hard to stretch!
    Endurance: No problems here, just getting sore and not recovering as quickly
    Aggression: normal
    Libido: on the low side
    Muscle Density/Hardening: solid!
    Overall Energy: no lethargy to speak of, feeling fine

    Personal Commentary: The pulse is going pretty much exactly how I hoped it would. Incremental gains in strength and size with a leaning effect. Once I got the calories/cardio dialed in things seem to be working out. Only concern is the libido, but I think that has to do with the ATD I added.

    I'm wondering whether I should take next week off or not. I'll be back home for Thanksgiving, and it may be good for recovery. Then again I'd probably get too antsy and want to lift! Any thoughts from those who've done pulse cycles before?


  2. Day 18: Thursday, 11/19/2009

    Cardio in the morning, about 2.5 miles for 400 cals.

    Yoga for an hour in the evening

    Weighed in at 199.5 and looking leaner. It seems like the Epi is having the desired effect.
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  3. Day 19: Friday 11/20/2009 50mg

    Woke up around 4AM and took 40mg Epi with 4g fishoil and got back in bed until 5AM, then took Vasocharge/Xtend. Headed to the gym around 5:30AM for bicep/leg day.

    Gains are from Day 5.

    Preacher Curl: 125 x 7/2/2/2 (+5lbs); 75 x 20/10/8
    Hammer Curl: 60 x 8/5/4 (+5lbs)
    Leg Press Calve Raises: 450 x 7/4/3 (+40lb)
    Leg Press: 720 x 8; 540 x 13 (+40lb)
    Seated Leg Curl:: 190 x 10/8/6 (+20lb)

    Extreme stretching hamstrings/quads/biceps

    Got back and took the remaining 10mg Epi with 4g fishoil. Took PWO shake (30g hydro whey, 75g Cho).

    Strength: consistently improving.
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Up ~5lbs and leaning out. Good!
    Pumps/Vascularity: goodness
    Endurance: good
    Aggression: normal
    Libido: normal
    Muscle Density/Hardening: solid!
    Overall Energy: feeling fine

    Personal Commentary: Working as advertised. I may stack in prostanzanol for the latter weeks to lean out a little more, maybe add 100mg?

  4. ive been following your log and it seems to be going well. Good job on the strenght increases.
    Do you know about what week you really started to feel it working? and looking back, now that your in week 6? maybe the start of 7? would you increase your dosages earlier? Thanks, keep the gains coming!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mtho68 View Post
    ive been following your log and it seems to be going well. Good job on the strenght increases.
    Do you know about what week you really started to feel it working? and looking back, now that your in week 6? maybe the start of 7? would you increase your dosages earlier? Thanks, keep the gains coming!
    I'm just at week 3, I put in ALL days, both on and off! I'm planning on going 6-8 weeks on this (42-56 days on the counter). I kept a log of off days to keep track of my cardio and if there were hormone swings.

    I jumped in pretty quick from 20mg, to 30mg, to 40mg in one week, and now at 50mg. I think the 50mg makes quite a difference in adding mass and leaning out. I think I could've gone to 50mg sooner, but it's good to check out the differences. I might try 60mg just to see, but only if gains plateau.

    I'd say the strength started coming in week 2, more noticeable now in week 3. Stay tuned in and we'll see what happens later!
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  6. oh, apparently i didn't read it as closely as i thought. good to hear you still have 3+ more weeks of your pulse though!
    Thanks for the info, im looking to start my pulse in a week or so, so im just interested in doses, ive read several people trying out 60 and even going up to 80...don't know if i'll go up to 80 but contemplating 60 if everything stays in order and sides are low.
    also interested to see if you try the whole dose preworkout and how that works for you. keep up the good work

  7. Day 20: Saturday, 11/21/2009

    Cardio in the morning, about 2.5 miles for 400 cals.

    Drove 700 miles today, ugh.

  8. Day 21: Sunday, 11/22/2009

    Cardio in the morning, about 2.5 miles for 400 cals.

    Drove 800 miles today, double ugh.

  9. Day 22: Monday 11/23/2009 50mg

    Back home for Thanksgiving, so schedule is all off. Had to find a different gym, trying out 24hr with a 30 day free pass. Nice new gym, good change of pace and not too busy.

    Took 40mg Epi with 4g fishoil at 4:30PM, went to work out at 5:30PM.

    Hammer Machine Bench Press: 230 x 4/3; 220 x 4/2/1/1 (+20/10lbs)
    Upright Rows: 155 x 8/4/4 (+10lbs)
    Bent Over Rows: 205 x 8/4/4 (+10lbs)
    Pull Down: 240 x 4; 225 x 8/4/2 (+10lbs)
    Smith Close Grip Bench Press: 200 x 6/4/2 (+5lbs)
    Tricep Push Down: 200 x 8/4/4
    Shrug Machine: 320 x 15/15/15
    Abs

    Extreme stretching chest/shoulders/triceps/back

    Got back and took the remaining 10mg Epi with 4g fishoil. Took PWO shake (30g hydro whey, 75g Cho).

    Strength: consistently improving.
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Up ~6lbs and leaning out. Good!
    Pumps/Vascularity: feels great when on
    Endurance: tired in the gym
    Aggression: normal
    Libido: normal
    Muscle Density/Hardening: solid!
    Overall Energy: feeling fine

    Personal Commentary: Acne is kicking in on my body. Got 5-6 good size ones on chest/back/legs, plus other small ones. Face is okay, but not too happy with the rest of this. Oh well, good muscular gains...

  10. Day 23: Tuesday, 11/24/2009

    Nothing, at home with family. Getting ready to eat a lot!

  11. Day 24: Wednesday 11/25/2009 50mg

    Took all 50mg Epi with 4g fishoil at 12:30PM, went to work out at 1:30PM.

    Really liked taking the full 50mg before!!!

    DB Curls: 65 x 4; 60 x 4; 55 x 8; 50 x 8
    Drag Curls: 155 x 8/4/4 (+20lbs)
    Reverse Grip Cable Curls: 130 x 6/3/2 (+10lbs)
    Seated Calf Raises: 135 x 7/4/3/2
    Lying Leg Curl: 170 x 10/6/4
    Hack Squat: 360 x 10; 410 x 8; 450 x 8; 270 x 20 (+90lbs!)

    Extreme stretching bicep/hamstring/quads

    Got back and took PWO shake (30g hydro whey, 75g Cho).

    Strength: keeps moving up, big time on legs now...
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Up ~6lbs and leaning out. Good!
    Pumps/Vascularity: arms were VERY vascular today, wow!
    Endurance: normal
    Aggression: normal
    Libido: normal to low
    Muscle Density/Hardening: solid!
    Overall Energy: feeling fine

    Personal Commentary: Great feeling today with the 50mg all before. I'm going to try this again and see how it goes on Friday for chest. I've been feeling I could do more with legs, and I guess that shows!

  12. Good luck bro...I'm gonna be following this closely as i plan to do a pulse in March and April...I"m especially watching libido b/c I'm doing this in prep for my wedding in St. Lucia...you know i don't want to look good but not be able to get it up! again good luck and keep us posted

  13. Day 25: Thursday, 11/26/2009

    No motivation for cardio, just lots of food. The other benefit of the pulse is I don't feel too bad about indulging in some drinks today. Took a little extra liver protection, but had a few beers/wine, and felt fine!

  14. Day 26: Friday, 11/27/2009

    Decided to take the day off with the early shopping. Wife was out all night and got home around 6am, so it was my turn to take care of the kiddo. Some good shopping, good GNC deals on-line (not a GNC fan at all, but when the price is right...)!

  15. Day 27: Saturday 11/28/2009 50mg

    Took all 50mg Epi with 4g fishoil at 3PM, then got delayed 3 hours so went to work out at 6PM. Aggression was definitely up, angry about being delayed before heading to the gym.

    DB Bench Press: 115 x 3/2/1; 100 x 4/3/3 (+5lbs)
    DB Military Press: 80 x 4/3/3 (+5lbs)
    Deadlifts: 405 x 1/1/1; 365 x 6; 315 x 8; 275 x 12 (+40lbs) didn't bring wraps again...
    Close Grip Pull Down: 240 x 8/5/4 (0)
    Skull Crushers: 120 x 7/4/2 (+5lbs)

    No stretching, too tired...

    Got back and took PWO shake (30g hydro whey, 30g Cho).

    Strength: moving up, but slowing down
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Up ~5lbs, down a pound, and not leaning more
    Pumps/Vascularity: arms very vascular
    Endurance: normal
    Aggression: normal
    Libido: normal to low, switching to 6 bromo instead of ATD on off nights
    Muscle Density/Hardening: good when on days, otherwise normal
    Overall Energy: feeling fine

    Personal Commentary: I was pissed I had to wait 3 hours after taking the epi, I feel like I was more on about 1-1.5 hours after taking the dose. Perhaps mental, but felt dissipated after 3 hours. Not too disappointed with performace though, first time breaking 400lb deadlift, and with no lifting straps. Libido is not at it's normal level, probably add in more tribulus/Longjack and no more ATD.

    I think I'm needing more rest/recovery than I'm getting, especially more sleep. Been averaging 6.5 hours and not sleeping too well (tossing/turning/snoring)...

  16. Quote Originally Posted by BigNickp View Post
    Good luck bro...I'm gonna be following this closely as i plan to do a pulse in March and April...I"m especially watching libido b/c I'm doing this in prep for my wedding in St. Lucia...you know i don't want to look good but not be able to get it up! again good luck and keep us posted
    Thanks, so far it's been going really well. Good strength gains and recomp.

    Libido was fine until I started adding in ATD for AI on off nights. ATD always kills my libido. I'm gonna try switching to 6 bromo and see how that does for me, haven't tried it before now...

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Thanks, so far it's been going really well. Good strength gains and recomp.

    Libido was fine until I started adding in ATD for AI on off nights. ATD always kills my libido. I'm gonna try switching to 6 bromo and see how that does for me, haven't tried it before now...
    6 bromo is where it is at. NP had 60 25mg caps selling for $15(maybe still going on not sure). I picked up 2 bottles personally

  18. how about running dhea on of days? I now I have seen some logs on here with people running that inbetween days.. nice and simple

    I can't to run my epi pulse in a couple of months. Gonna run it with 2 clen cycles.. shoping it is marvolous. Thanksfiving really efffed me up.. I put on 11lbs in 2 days!!!!! WTF

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  19. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    how about running dhea on of days? I now I have seen some logs on here with people running that inbetween days.. nice and simple

    I can't to run my epi pulse in a couple of months. Gonna run it with 2 clen cycles.. shoping it is marvolous. Thanksfiving really efffed me up.. I put on 11lbs in 2 days!!!!! WTF

    How was your thanksgiving
    11lbs!?! Wow, that's pretty impressive (though not always desirable). I don't think I'll put on close to that much in 60 days! I only had one bad day, the rest I was able to be somewhat clean, though some chinese food snuck in there...

    Great Clen deal today and on SERMS, $12.50 for 60ml!!!

  20. Yea it definitely wasn't desirable I doubt any of the weight gain was muscle considering all the pumpkin pie Nd cheesecake I ate!!

    Did u pick up that 6-bromo

  21. I had picked up 2 bottles of the 6-bromo when it was $20. I also picked up some Formestane, so I'm not gonna bother to get any more AI's after that great SERM sale.

    Libido is back up now that I've cut out the ATD.

  22. I thought about picking up some bottles since it was on sale but funds are low due to christmas and I didn't really know what it actually did.

  23. Just curious still at 50mg?

  24. Day 28: Sunday, 11/29/2009

    Didn't do much of anything, just dealing with life and an upcoming move to VA. Cortisol must be getting high with the stress of life. I've noticed increased aggression too as things become more stressful. Good in the gym, not great outside. It's probably more life related than epi...

  25. Lol I KNOW u mixed up the days. The 30th was Monday I'm 100% sure of that.

  26. Day 29: Monday 11/30/2009 60mg

    Bumped up to 60mg Epi, all taken pre-workout with 4g fishoil at 6PM, then work out at 7:30PM. Had to try a new gym which was not hardcore at all.

    Barbell Curl: 130 x 6/3/2 (+5lbs)
    Reverse Grip EZ Bar Curl: 95 x 8/4/2
    Seated Calf Raises: 160 x 6/4/3
    Hamstring Kick Back: 130 x 12/12/12 (full stack)
    Squats: 365 x 6; 275 x 15 (+30lbs)

    Extreme stretching quads, hamstrings, biceps

    Got back and took PWO shake (40g protein, 20g carbs), ate some Boston Market.

    Strength: good bump on legs, arms feel strong
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Up ~5lbs, leaned a bit but not a ton
    Pumps/Vascularity: arms very vascular today
    Endurance: normal
    Aggression: stress up in life
    Libido: back up without ATD in my life
    Muscle Density/Hardening: good when on days, otherwise normal
    Overall Energy: feeling fine

    Personal Commentary: In the midst of a move, so getting to a gym is tougher than usual. I bumped epi up to 60mg today, and had a little pressure in my head while lifting. I'm guessing blood pressure related, but I didn't measure it to check. It was very minor, didn't impair my lifts at all. I'll try running it at 60mg for the remainder of the week and see how it goes.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Lol I KNOW u mixed up the days. The 30th was Monday I'm 100% sure of that.
    I find myself going back and editing the day number and date frequently. I don't know why, but I can never seem to get it right the first time! lol!

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Just curious still at 50mg?
    Upped it to 60mg on Monday. Slight head pressure in the gym, but very minor. I'm gonna try it again this week and see how it goes. Don't know if there was really any benefit or not.

    I only have enough epi from one bottle left for 6-7 more on days (this week + 1 more). The timing should work great for vacation time. I'm hoping to get some bloodwork done next week or so too. I'm real interested in that.

  29. how has it been taking it all preworkout lately? you feel better in the gym or feels about the same? i saw your first day of all preworkout with 50 went well...didn't know if it has stayed like that or if that was perhaps placebo?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by mtho68 View Post
    how has it been taking it all preworkout lately? you feel better in the gym or feels about the same? i saw your first day of all preworkout with 50 went well...didn't know if it has stayed like that or if that was perhaps placebo?
    I'm switching to taking it all about 1 hour pre-workout. I feel it helps, and I don't see the benefit of taking half post during a pulse. The point is to limit the duration of the compound in your system and just have it there during the critical parts. To me, if I can have as much in my system while I lift and immediately after, that's more better.

    There may be a reason to split the dose during a pulse, but I haven't figured it out yet. Until I learn a reason why otherwise, I'll keep doing it this way.
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