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    Day 24: Wednesday 11/25/2009 50mg

    Took all 50mg Epi with 4g fishoil at 12:30PM, went to work out at 1:30PM.

    Really liked taking the full 50mg before!!!

    DB Curls: 65 x 4; 60 x 4; 55 x 8; 50 x 8
    Drag Curls: 155 x 8/4/4 (+20lbs)
    Reverse Grip Cable Curls: 130 x 6/3/2 (+10lbs)
    Seated Calf Raises: 135 x 7/4/3/2
    Lying Leg Curl: 170 x 10/6/4
    Hack Squat: 360 x 10; 410 x 8; 450 x 8; 270 x 20 (+90lbs!)

    Extreme stretching bicep/hamstring/quads

    Got back and took PWO shake (30g hydro whey, 75g Cho).

    Strength: keeps moving up, big time on legs now...
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Up ~6lbs and leaning out. Good!
    Pumps/Vascularity: arms were VERY vascular today, wow!
    Endurance: normal
    Aggression: normal
    Libido: normal to low
    Muscle Density/Hardening: solid!
    Overall Energy: feeling fine

    Personal Commentary: Great feeling today with the 50mg all before. I'm going to try this again and see how it goes on Friday for chest. I've been feeling I could do more with legs, and I guess that shows!

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    Good luck bro...I'm gonna be following this closely as i plan to do a pulse in March and April...I"m especially watching libido b/c I'm doing this in prep for my wedding in St. Lucia...you know i don't want to look good but not be able to get it up! again good luck and keep us posted
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    Day 25: Thursday, 11/26/2009

    No motivation for cardio, just lots of food. The other benefit of the pulse is I don't feel too bad about indulging in some drinks today. Took a little extra liver protection, but had a few beers/wine, and felt fine!
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    Day 26: Friday, 11/27/2009

    Decided to take the day off with the early shopping. Wife was out all night and got home around 6am, so it was my turn to take care of the kiddo. Some good shopping, good GNC deals on-line (not a GNC fan at all, but when the price is right...)!
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    Day 27: Saturday 11/28/2009 50mg

    Took all 50mg Epi with 4g fishoil at 3PM, then got delayed 3 hours so went to work out at 6PM. Aggression was definitely up, angry about being delayed before heading to the gym.

    DB Bench Press: 115 x 3/2/1; 100 x 4/3/3 (+5lbs)
    DB Military Press: 80 x 4/3/3 (+5lbs)
    Deadlifts: 405 x 1/1/1; 365 x 6; 315 x 8; 275 x 12 (+40lbs) didn't bring wraps again...
    Close Grip Pull Down: 240 x 8/5/4 (0)
    Skull Crushers: 120 x 7/4/2 (+5lbs)

    No stretching, too tired...

    Got back and took PWO shake (30g hydro whey, 30g Cho).

    Strength: moving up, but slowing down
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Up ~5lbs, down a pound, and not leaning more
    Pumps/Vascularity: arms very vascular
    Endurance: normal
    Aggression: normal
    Libido: normal to low, switching to 6 bromo instead of ATD on off nights
    Muscle Density/Hardening: good when on days, otherwise normal
    Overall Energy: feeling fine

    Personal Commentary: I was pissed I had to wait 3 hours after taking the epi, I feel like I was more on about 1-1.5 hours after taking the dose. Perhaps mental, but felt dissipated after 3 hours. Not too disappointed with performace though, first time breaking 400lb deadlift, and with no lifting straps. Libido is not at it's normal level, probably add in more tribulus/Longjack and no more ATD.

    I think I'm needing more rest/recovery than I'm getting, especially more sleep. Been averaging 6.5 hours and not sleeping too well (tossing/turning/snoring)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigNickp View Post
    Good luck bro...I'm gonna be following this closely as i plan to do a pulse in March and April...I"m especially watching libido b/c I'm doing this in prep for my wedding in St. Lucia...you know i don't want to look good but not be able to get it up! again good luck and keep us posted
    Thanks, so far it's been going really well. Good strength gains and recomp.

    Libido was fine until I started adding in ATD for AI on off nights. ATD always kills my libido. I'm gonna try switching to 6 bromo and see how that does for me, haven't tried it before now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Thanks, so far it's been going really well. Good strength gains and recomp.

    Libido was fine until I started adding in ATD for AI on off nights. ATD always kills my libido. I'm gonna try switching to 6 bromo and see how that does for me, haven't tried it before now...
    6 bromo is where it is at. NP had 60 25mg caps selling for $15(maybe still going on not sure). I picked up 2 bottles personally
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    how about running dhea on of days? I now I have seen some logs on here with people running that inbetween days.. nice and simple

    I can't to run my epi pulse in a couple of months. Gonna run it with 2 clen cycles.. shoping it is marvolous. Thanksfiving really efffed me up.. I put on 11lbs in 2 days!!!!! WTF

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    how about running dhea on of days? I now I have seen some logs on here with people running that inbetween days.. nice and simple

    I can't to run my epi pulse in a couple of months. Gonna run it with 2 clen cycles.. shoping it is marvolous. Thanksfiving really efffed me up.. I put on 11lbs in 2 days!!!!! WTF

    How was your thanksgiving
    11lbs!?! Wow, that's pretty impressive (though not always desirable). I don't think I'll put on close to that much in 60 days! I only had one bad day, the rest I was able to be somewhat clean, though some chinese food snuck in there...

    Great Clen deal today and on SERMS, $12.50 for 60ml!!!
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    Yea it definitely wasn't desirable I doubt any of the weight gain was muscle considering all the pumpkin pie Nd cheesecake I ate!!

    Did u pick up that 6-bromo
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    I had picked up 2 bottles of the 6-bromo when it was $20. I also picked up some Formestane, so I'm not gonna bother to get any more AI's after that great SERM sale.

    Libido is back up now that I've cut out the ATD.
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    I thought about picking up some bottles since it was on sale but funds are low due to christmas and I didn't really know what it actually did.
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    Just curious still at 50mg?
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    Day 28: Sunday, 11/29/2009

    Didn't do much of anything, just dealing with life and an upcoming move to VA. Cortisol must be getting high with the stress of life. I've noticed increased aggression too as things become more stressful. Good in the gym, not great outside. It's probably more life related than epi...
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    Lol I KNOW u mixed up the days. The 30th was Monday I'm 100% sure of that.
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    Day 29: Monday 11/30/2009 60mg

    Bumped up to 60mg Epi, all taken pre-workout with 4g fishoil at 6PM, then work out at 7:30PM. Had to try a new gym which was not hardcore at all.

    Barbell Curl: 130 x 6/3/2 (+5lbs)
    Reverse Grip EZ Bar Curl: 95 x 8/4/2
    Seated Calf Raises: 160 x 6/4/3
    Hamstring Kick Back: 130 x 12/12/12 (full stack)
    Squats: 365 x 6; 275 x 15 (+30lbs)

    Extreme stretching quads, hamstrings, biceps

    Got back and took PWO shake (40g protein, 20g carbs), ate some Boston Market.

    Strength: good bump on legs, arms feel strong
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Up ~5lbs, leaned a bit but not a ton
    Pumps/Vascularity: arms very vascular today
    Endurance: normal
    Aggression: stress up in life
    Libido: back up without ATD in my life
    Muscle Density/Hardening: good when on days, otherwise normal
    Overall Energy: feeling fine

    Personal Commentary: In the midst of a move, so getting to a gym is tougher than usual. I bumped epi up to 60mg today, and had a little pressure in my head while lifting. I'm guessing blood pressure related, but I didn't measure it to check. It was very minor, didn't impair my lifts at all. I'll try running it at 60mg for the remainder of the week and see how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Lol I KNOW u mixed up the days. The 30th was Monday I'm 100% sure of that.
    I find myself going back and editing the day number and date frequently. I don't know why, but I can never seem to get it right the first time! lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Just curious still at 50mg?
    Upped it to 60mg on Monday. Slight head pressure in the gym, but very minor. I'm gonna try it again this week and see how it goes. Don't know if there was really any benefit or not.

    I only have enough epi from one bottle left for 6-7 more on days (this week + 1 more). The timing should work great for vacation time. I'm hoping to get some bloodwork done next week or so too. I'm real interested in that.
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    how has it been taking it all preworkout lately? you feel better in the gym or feels about the same? i saw your first day of all preworkout with 50 went well...didn't know if it has stayed like that or if that was perhaps placebo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtho68 View Post
    how has it been taking it all preworkout lately? you feel better in the gym or feels about the same? i saw your first day of all preworkout with 50 went well...didn't know if it has stayed like that or if that was perhaps placebo?
    I'm switching to taking it all about 1 hour pre-workout. I feel it helps, and I don't see the benefit of taking half post during a pulse. The point is to limit the duration of the compound in your system and just have it there during the critical parts. To me, if I can have as much in my system while I lift and immediately after, that's more better.

    There may be a reason to split the dose during a pulse, but I haven't figured it out yet. Until I learn a reason why otherwise, I'll keep doing it this way.
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    So u do the whole 60 pre workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    So u do the whole 60 pre workout
    Just started with the 60, but yes, all pre. I haven't been able to make it in this week, but this weekend will be going full 60 pre again.
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    Isn't it recomended to take half pre and half post? I forget the training behind it just remember reading it at some point
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    Day 30-33: 12/1-4/2009

    On travel with family, diet ain't so great...
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    Day 34: Saturday 12/5/2009 60mg

    Bumped up to 60mg Epi, all taken pre-workout with 6g fishoil at 8AM, then work out at 9AM. Different gym, so equipment took some adjustment for weights, etc.

    Incline Smith Press: 210 x 4/2/2 (+10lbs)
    Smith Military Press: 160 x 5/3/2
    Chinups: 20 (-1 rep)
    Cable Row: 255 x 8/4/3 (+5lbs)
    Reverse Grip Smith Bench: 210 x 3; 200 x 4/4/2
    DB Flys: 50 x 8/4/4

    Extreme stretching chest, triceps, back

    Got back and took PWO shake (30g hydro protein, 50g carbs).

    Strength: felt weak today, couldn't up the weight or reps at all
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: hovering around 199/200 (+4-5lbs)
    Pumps/Vascularity: strong pumps in gym
    Endurance: normal
    Aggression: normal
    Libido: normal (which is up)
    Muscle Density/Hardening: Feeling/looking good
    Overall Energy: feeling fine

    Personal Commentary: Tried the 60mg epi all pre again. No headaches this time, but no real extra gain here. I'll try it again and see. Overall a rough workout and not able to make the consistent gains this time.
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    Day 35: Sunday 12/6/2009

    Day off, just sat around recovering from a cold... Beef stew, mmm.....
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    Day 36: Monday 12/7/2009 60mg

    60mg epi pre workout with 50mg prostanozol at 8AM, then work out at 9AM. New gym, different equipment, etc.

    Preacher Curl: 115 x 6/3/2 (-10lbs) bar felt heavier than standard 25lbs, new gym...
    Hammer Curl: 65 x 8/4/4 (+5lbs)
    Leg Press Calves: 540 x 8/5/4 (+90lbs) started to really hurt ankle with hold at eccentric
    Sitting Leg Curl: 200 x 8/6/4 (+10lbs)
    Leg Press: 720 x 10; 540 x 20

    Extreme stretching quads, hamstrings, biceps

    Got back and took PWO shake (30g hydro protein, 50g carbs), 50mg prostanozol.

    Strength: weak on preacher curl, felt real heavy today. Legs held at 720lbs, but not stellar
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: more muscular, wife definitely notices
    Pumps/Vascularity: normal pump
    Endurance: normal
    Aggression: normal
    Libido: normal (up)
    Muscle Density/Hardening: feeling pretty solid
    Overall Energy: feeling fine

    Personal Commentary: trying to add some prostanozol to help lean out, we'll see how that goes. I'm going to try to get some blood work this Thursday to see where I'm at. Probably start PCT in a couple weeks, only 3-4 doses of Epi left...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Isn't it recomended to take half pre and half post? I forget the training behind it just remember reading it at some point
    Yeah, I believe it was recommended but couldn't figure out why. Perhaps too much compound and there aren't enough receptors all at once? I haven't had any good answers other than "you're supposed to".
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    did you end up taking 6-bromo? or just cut out atd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtho68 View Post
    did you end up taking 6-bromo? or just cut out atd?
    Swapped out the ATD for 6 bromo. The difference in libido is noticeable. Really, I'm not too sure the AI made much of an impact.
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    Finished the cycle yesterday. I'll be posting after pics up this weekend with measurements.

    Bloodwork should be up this weekend too.

    PCT beginning with Purus Recycle.
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    are you running soley purus for PCT?
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    Sub. nice log.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    are you running soley purus for PCT?
    I'll know for sure when I see my bloodwork, but I'm guessing that's all I'll need.

    I'm adding in CL Blue Gene. I like that one for joints and good feeling, little cortisol control, and I think I'll use that between cycles now on. I've read it helps regulate hormones, which would be great too.
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    Final Results


    Okay, so finished out the cycle with 3 days at 50mg, 40 pre and 10 post. The split dose was actually better for me than all pre.

    I posted updated before/after pics on page 1.

    measurements (with change):

    Left Bicep: 15" (+1)
    Right Bicep: 15" (+1)
    Chest: 42" (+2)
    Waist: 34" (+0)
    Left Thigh: 24" (+1.5)
    Right Thigh: 24.5" (+1)
    Left Calf: 15.5" (+.5")
    Right Calf: 16" (+0)

    Weight: 201lbs (+6)

    bf%: 12.1% (about same, maybe less)

    Lifts:

    DB Bench Press: 115lbs (+15lbs each side)
    Incline Smith Press: 220 (+40)

    DB Military Press: 80lbs (+10lbs each side)
    Smith Military: 180 (+40)

    Pull Down: 255 (+35)
    Deadlift: 425 (+60)
    Cable Row: 270 (+40)
    Barbell Row: 215 (+30)

    Skull Crusher: 125 (+10)
    Close Grip Bench: 210 (+30)

    Barbell Curl: 135 (+20)
    Reverse Bbell Curl: 105 (+10)

    Squats: 365 (+50)
    Hack Squat: 500 (+180)
    Leg Press: 720 (+90)

    Blood work hasn't come in yet.

    Into my third workout PCT, and so far strength has remained and continues to improve slightly. Seems maintainable, and no sides to report throughtout the entire cycle other than little acne. Libido is normal, as is everything else.

    All in all, it's just what I was expecting. I wanted noticeable increases, but nothing crazy. Wife and others notice I'm more muscular, but nothing too out of the ordinary. It gave me the boost I needed to get past plateaus.

    Bottom Line: Pulse = mild gains and no sides
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    nice job bro! your after pics look good. Can definitely tell you got more muscular and you look leaner as well. Hope you keep everything through pct
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    awesome log I look forward to seeing the bloodwork results
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtho68 View Post
    nice job bro! your after pics look good. Can definitely tell you got more muscular and you look leaner as well. Hope you keep everything through pct
    Thanks! The cycle felt good, and still feeling strong after workout today. Set some new PR's. Only using Purus ReCycle and Controlled Labs Blue Gene for PCT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tansui View Post
    awesome log I look forward to seeing the bloodwork results
    Thanks, me too. The doc hasn't reviewed it yet, and he's off today and tomorrow. Sooo... waiting.

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    Haven't posted by I'm following this log.
    Thanks, hope it was a good log. First time for me. Any suggestions for improvement?
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    Thanks, hope it was a good log. First time for me. Any suggestions for improvement?[/QUOTE]

    Nope, good log. Some logs have far to much BS. Personally I just want the facts. Bloodwork is not something you see very often. From what I hear Epi will affect lipids as do most other PH's.
  

  
 

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