My proposed Epistane Cycle

[Silver3CSRT8]

After hours of research on company time I have put together the following cycle that I plan to start preloading towards the end of the month. Please let me know if I am on track with my cycle and I have all the supplements needed to complete the cycle. The only outstanding supplements might be Deisel Test Hard Core if the boys go from hanging low and become too close for comfort. :-)

My Cycle will consist of Epistane with Cycle Support.

My PCT will consist of Tamox, AI's Post Cycle Support and Lean Xtreme.

My Daily supplements will be Cycle Support, Ragnarok, Protein shakes, Fish Oil, Taurine and a MultiVitamin.

Anything missing on the supplement list or on the timelines listed below?



My goal is lean musle mass and hopefully drop a little fat while bulking up.

[pmiller383]

Everything looks solid, the only differences I would do is upping my Fish oil ( I prefer a dose of about 10 cap ed year round) and with the Tamox I would probably follow a 40/20/20/20 plan but again I think its just personal preference and your outline will be sufficient.

[Royd The Noyd]

Looks fine. Whats your diet look like?

[Mach .78]

I'm on board for this because I plan on running it and because I dig that spreadsheet. Get on with it son.

[rubberring]

Silver, have you used Epi before? We're about the same height/weight and going above 30mg didn't offer any further benefit for me, and sides became an issue. I don't know, but 50mg seems a bit too high. I'd play it by ear when you get to 30mg. In fact, I love the gains, lack of sides, minimal shutdown, and on-top-of-the-world feeling I get with 20mg daily. Good luck with the cycle. The support supps and PCT look solid.

[Silver3CSRT8]

Silver, have you used Epi before? We're about the same height/weight and going above 30mg didn't offer any further benefit for me, and sides became an issue. I don't know, but 50mg seems a bit too high. I'd play it by ear when you get to 30mg. In fact, I love the gains, lack of sides, minimal shutdown, and on-top-of-the-world feeling I get with 20mg daily. Good luck with the cycle. The support supps and PCT look solid.

My first cycle was M-Drol and I was no where near as prepared as I am for this one. I definately reserve my right to change the dosage and stick with 30mg - 40mg depending on the affect.

I have thought about upping the Fish Oil, but I am not really sure what more will help. Can you please provide feedback on what to expect with more caps?

[Silver3CSRT8]

Looks fine. Whats your diet look like?

Right now I am more in the cutting/leaning phase since I am trying to lose the remaining gut. I am 194lbs and my diet on most days consists of:

Breakfast:
Protein shake (7:30AM)
Oatmeal (8:30AM)

Lunch:
Lunch is my big meal of the day but I try to watch what I eat. I would say most days I consume 800-1200 calories at lunch.

Snack:
Banana or snack bar around 3-4 and sometimes both depending on lunch size

I typically get a protein shake one I get home from work around 6-6:30PM

Dinner:
Most nights consist of fish, grilled chicken or pork chop.
Sides include some type of veggies with green been and squash being frequent staples.

I typically drink one more protein shake before bed.

Here is my current workout log while I am off cycle. I might change it up when I start the Epistane.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/worko...s-workout.html

[Silver3CSRT8]

I'm on board for this because I plan on running it and because I dig that spreadsheet. Get on with it son.

Thx for the feedback and I have attach the spreadsheet in case you want to use the template. It didn't like xls file so I saved it in word.

[pdx89]

looks good

[stxnas]

Looks like somebody has done his homework

If you don't have your supps yet I would suggest looking into this stack at Nutraplanet: Buy Together & Save: Epistane, Cycle Support, & POST Cycle Support

You can also save 5% on the purchase of any regularly priced Anabolic Innovations products at NP by using the coupon code 74hsn.

[Silver3CSRT8]

Looks like somebody has done his homework

If you don't have your supps yet I would suggest looking into this stack at Nutraplanet: Buy Together & Save: Epistane, Cycle Support, & POST Cycle Support

You can also save 5% on the purchase of any regularly priced Anabolic Innovations products at NP by using the coupon code 74hsn.

Sonofabish. I did buy that exact stack, but I didn't use the coupon code. That really sucks, but I suppose all is well. I am sure it will not be my last cycle and I will look for coupon codes first. :-)

As for doing my homework, the M-Drol cycle that I did I did not research the way I should have. My PCT consisted of Formadrol. Luckily the cycle was short and I was lucky and have no probs. This time I want to do it by the book to maximize the effect while limiting the negatives.

Thx for the feedback and it seems like AI products are the shiznit. :-)

[stxnas]

The coupon code only works on regularly priced Anabolic Innovations products. It would not have worked with the stack. What I was trying to say was that if only need one of our products then you could use the code

Sounds like you still got a good deal via the stack.

[Silver3CSRT8]

The coupon code only works on regularly priced Anabolic Innovations products. It would not have worked with the stack. What I was trying to say was that if only need one of our products then you could use the code

Sounds like you still got a good deal via the stack.

Thx for the info. I might check out Stoked after I finish the cycle, but I have not found too many independant reviews yet.

[stxnas]

STOKED is the EXACT same thing as POST Cycle Support. Check out the link at the bottom of my sig.

We released it under a different name b/c many people were confused by the name and weren't sure if it could be used for it's estrogen regulating and test boosting properties outside of pct. There were also others that didn't want to have a product that had a name associated with having done a cycle.

STOKED! vs POST Cycle Support: What's The Difference?

I have been getting this question a lot lately...I figured I'd start this thread for those of you that utilize the search button!

Short Answer
POST Cycle Support and STOKED! are THE EXACT SAME THING CAPSULE FOR CAPSULE.

Long Answer
People were getting confused about the different applications of POST Cycle Support because its name implies that it is to be used during pct. POST Cycle Support is a great fit for pct b/c it inherently has test boosting and estrogen regulating effects.

A lot of people were curious as to if POST Cycle Support could be used outside of pct due to these attractive characteristics. The answer is yes and to help avoid any confusion Anabolic Innovations came out with the same product under a different name. For these reasons you should see that Anabolic Innovations representatives will be suggesting POST Cycle Support for pct situations and STOKED! for situational usage outside of pct. In reality, the two products are interchangeable.

Yes, I know...it's still confusing, lol.

[Silver3CSRT8]

STOKED is the EXACT same thing as POST Cycle Support. Check out the link at the bottom of my sig.

We released it under a different name b/c many people were confused by the name and weren't sure if it could be used for it's estrogen regulating and test boosting properties outside of pct. There were also others that didn't want to have a product that had a name associated with having done a cycle.

STOKED! vs POST Cycle Support: What's The Difference?

Thx for the info. Can I return my PCS for Stoked! so that I don't get the label associated with cycle? Nevermind, I guess the Epistane is deserving of that label :bb3:

[freezito]

wow, great graphic!

[TimberLakers]

Nice job on the excel plan bro.. Much smarter than your last cycle...

[TimberLakers]

Any reason you're running for 8 weeks by the way?

GMG might have more to offer, but I would probably start your dose higher week one to 20 or 30 then 40 / 50... stopping at 6 weeks total.

Get in and get out. Also, I would suggest higher fish oil, and perhaps putting off your creatine for PCT... Usually people just want to feel the effects of the steroids and not the creatine.

All just suggestions, I know you've done a lot of work. Nice job.

[Silver3CSRT8]

Any reason you're running for 8 weeks by the way?

GMG might have more to offer, but I would probably start your dose higher week one to 20 or 30 then 40 / 50... stopping at 6 weeks total.

Get in and get out. Also, I would suggest higher fish oil, and perhaps putting off your creatine for PCT... Usually people just want to feel the effects of the steroids and not the creatine.

All just suggestions, I know you've done a lot of work. Nice job.

I plan to only do 6 weeks total on Epistane with the Week 1 and 2 considered preload with the cycle support. I did think about Day 1 and 2 at 10mg and finishing week1 at 20. I am not opposed to starting at 20mg week 1 if that is what folks recommend.

Thx for the advice on moving the creatine for PCT. I am sure the pumps will be good enough from the Epistane.

[TimberLakers]

I plan to only do 6 weeks total on Epistane with the Week 1 and 2 considered preload with the cycle support. I did think about Day 1 and 2 at 10mg and finishing week1 at 20. I am not opposed to starting at 20mg week 1 if that is what folks recommend.

Thx for the advice on moving the creatine for PCT. I am sure the pumps will be good enough from the Epistane.

My bad bro... I did read your sheet wrong. Apologies.

Ask GMG about the beginning dose. I would suggest starting higher, but not having any first hand experience with the compound, I will defer.

Definitely save the creatine... and your money. Ragnarok is supposed to be awesome. Get your moneys worth and see how it treats you by itself.