[IBE]

why would we do this?
1-well for starters it would be make it more potent and legal aleast for the users
2- don't have to worrie about going to the black market and worring about fakes
3 it works no need for logs


we need a new wet compound and what would be better then a user legal D-bol and 2.4 times more potent and gives you that well being feeling. it's winter.

[flightposite]

Awesome

[IBE]

no one get there hopes up but we will be sending this info to my source tonight and will let everyone know if it is a possibilty

[jbryand101b]

As a rep, I understand why you put it here, but this really belongs in the anabolic section. Can't wait for it though

[IBE]

Duh...you are right what was I thinking...lol

mod please move to anabolic section

As a rep, I understand why you put it here, but this really belongs in the anabolic section. Can't wait for it though

[jbryand101b]

Lol, its okay, happens to all the newbs.

[ssbackwards]

wouldnt it be a lil less harsh due to methylazation on the 7th position?

[IBE]

it is still methylated at the 17th postion but also it is methylated at the 7th postion

wouldnt it be a lil less harsh due to methylazation on the 7th position?

[ssbackwards]

it is still methylated at the 17th postion but also it is methylated at the 7th postion

yea just saw that,

How would this methylazation on the 7th position work with cortisol balance? and increasing bioavailability./

[Rhadam]

Yes, please release this.

Am i right to infer that this would be less toxic and estrogenic but more powerful than MLMG?

[prld2gr8ns]

Safe to say that the appeal of this would not be in any small number. I commend you on having the coconuts to try and bring this to fruition.

[swollen87]

i want nAOw

[Tomahawk88]

I will be on the look out.

[jbryand101b]

yea just saw that,

How would this methylazation on the 7th position work with cortisol balance? and increasing bioavailability./

cortisol balance? what are you talking about? seriously, i dont know.

but i believe it would prevent it from becoming 5a reduced, as well as cause it to bind much more strongly to the androgen receptor. not sure, but the info is out there, over at phf, henry im sure has posted it.

[nattydisaster]

When these types of threads are made, does anyone ever say "no i dont want this"?

[rochabp]

IBE=AM. PM.

...too much good stuff

[nattydisaster]

IBE does not = AM

I am 100% sure

[rochabp]

IBE does not = AM

I am 100% sure

wow, nice kill.

[rochabp]

never the less it looks freaking awesome.

[Ginandtonic]

Some chemists in China are hard at work hopefully, money goes in muscle comes out you can't explain that!

[oufinny]

Am I correct to state that you are saying a di-methyl version of dbol is going to have the same euphoric feeling yet be stronger, all while being a d-methyl which we all know from DMZ and Superdrol are VERY harsh and have bad sides for a majority of users? I like that you are trying to bring a product like dbol to the average user but many are not educated enough or willing to take the time to use a compound like the properly. I foresee tons of gyno stories and lots of people not feeling nearly as good as they would on the proven original version of dbol.

NattyD, I am with you in that I feel this on paper sounds great but in reality may not be all its cracked up to be; di-methyls are notoriously harsh and no amount of support supps changes that or injectible test for that matter. And you said there will be no logs, am I correct again to assume it will not be tested prior to release? That is beyond reckless IBE, kind of reminds me of all that BAD press with the Epistane that wasn't really Epistane... but I thought you moved past that? Do yourselves a favor, be responsible and do testing if it is produced on PEOPLE, you will gain a significant amount of credibility just from that alone.

[IBE]

it will be tested by patric arnold. and for the epi it was tested by Dr.D and another lab before we releast it but they were wrong and now that is why we use PA for everything.you have no clue what you are talking about. this in no superdrol bro. if you read the study it only made it stronger by 2.4% now how can you compare the to freaking super drol.?

Am I correct to state that you are saying a di-methyl version of dbol is going to have the same euphoric feeling yet be stronger, all while being a d-methyl which we all know from DMZ and Superdrol are VERY harsh and have bad sides for a majority of users? I like that you are trying to bring a product like dbol to the average user but many are not educated enough or willing to take the time to use a compound like the properly. I foresee tons of gyno stories and lots of people not feeling nearly as good as they would on the proven original version of dbol.

NattyD, I am with you in that I feel this on paper sounds great but in reality may not be all its cracked up to be; di-methyls are notoriously harsh and no amount of support supps changes that or injectible test for that matter. And you said there will be no logs, am I correct again to assume it will not be tested prior to release? That is beyond reckless IBE, kind of reminds me of all that BAD press with the Epistane that wasn't really Epistane... but I thought you moved past that? Do yourselves a favor, be responsible and do testing if it is produced on PEOPLE, you will gain a significant amount of credibility just from that alone.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Alright, I'll take some.

[TheDarkHalf]

Sign me up!

[ryansm]

When these types of threads are made, does anyone ever say "no i dont want this"?

I planned to, but it looks like my resolution to stay off methyls would end if it is released

[Rhadam]

Still looking for someone with the Ochem smarts to relate this to MLMG like I ASKED FOR EARLIER!!!!

[IBE]

the main reason for the post to show my source there is a demand for this new compound because they feel like making new product is taking big risk if it does not sell. well I would not really call this a new compound per say. we had to convince them that trendione an d ment would sell and ther ewill be no risk.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Pricewise, what would consumers be looking at? I can't guarantee I would run this as soon as it releases but I sure as hell would pick a few bottles up upon release for the future.

[jbryand101b]

Am I correct to state that you are saying a di-methyl version of dbol is going to have the same euphoric feeling yet be stronger, all while being a d-methyl which we all know from DMZ and Superdrol are VERY harsh and have bad sides for a majority of users? I like that you are trying to bring a product like dbol to the average user but many are not educated enough or willing to take the time to use a compound like the properly. I foresee tons of gyno stories and lots of people not feeling nearly as good as they would on the proven original version of dbol.

NattyD, I am with you in that I feel this on paper sounds great but in reality may not be all its cracked up to be; di-methyls are notoriously harsh and no amount of support supps changes that or injectible test for that matter. And you said there will be no logs, am I correct again to assume it will not be tested prior to release? That is beyond reckless IBE, kind of reminds me of all that BAD press with the Epistane that wasn't really Epistane... but I thought you moved past that? Do yourselves a favor, be responsible and do testing if it is produced on PEOPLE, you will gain a significant amount of credibility just from that alone.

so uh, from your post here, you seem to feel you are pretty knowledgable about steroids, could you explain to us how di methylation differs from another methylation, and what 1a, or 2a, or 7a, etc will change or hurt the compound instead of just wonder out loud?

[nattydisaster]

Why so much hostility in here? Cant we all be friends?