Demiurge vs Axon?

[kc777]

Can someone help with the difference here? I see Axon has caffeine but other than that this is a new type of product for me... What's the main difference between the two, and what should be expected from each? Thanks!

[rambofireball]

Demiurge is phenylpiracetam, Axon is hederagenin.

http://www.antaeuslabs.com/axon.html

http://www.totalflexblog.com/articles/phenylpiracetam/

Research it!

Both quality stims.

[kc777]

Demiurge is phenylpiracetam, Axon is hederagenin.

http://www.antaeuslabs.com/axon.html

http://www.totalflexblog.com/articles/phenylpiracetam/

Research it!

Both quality stims.

Pesticide=no go for me! Thanks

[Littlefry]

Axon is our stim type product, and Demiurge is our nootropic product. Both can be used as a PreWO boost. Axon brings the energy and Demiurge brings the focus. Personally when I use them I stack them on workout days 20-30mins Pre with 2-3 caps Axon and 4 caps Demiurge.

[kc777]

Axon is our stim type product, and Demiurge is our nootropic product. Both can be used as a PreWO boost. Axon brings the energy and Demiurge brings the focus. Personally when I use them I stack them on workout days 20-30mins Pre with 2-3 caps Axon and 4 caps Demiurge.

I'm picking up some Demiurge, I'm interested in trying a nootropic, but the stuff being used as a pesticide in Axon kinda bothers me; I'm sure it works, but I would feel better with Demiurge. Thanks for the reply!

[Littlefry]

I'm picking up some Demiurge, I'm interested in trying a nootropic, but the stuff being used as a pesticide in Axon kinda bothers me; I'm sure it works, but I would feel better with Demiurge. Thanks for the reply!

Sounds good man. Start with 2 caps Demiurge and work your way up to 6 caps. Only use it on Workout days or no more than 4x a week. After 6 weeks on take 2-3 weeks off.

[henryv]

Pesticide=no go for me! Thanks

Naturally-occurring compounds like resveratrol and hederagenin are produced by plants as a defence against things like microbes and funguses. Resveratrol has been successfully used as a topical pesticide* but has a whole host of well-documented health benefits in humans and other animals.

You're presumably associating them with artificial organochloride insecticides, but they're completely different things.

* J Agric Food Chem. 2003 Jan 1;51(1):82-9.

[houstontexas]

As far as Demiurge how much of a stim feeling are we talking? Could you compare it to something on the market as far as stim effect goes?

[rambofireball]

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Sorry, had to take advantage of what may be the only chance I ever have to correct the henryv.

[henryv]

fungi.*

Sorry, had to take advantage of what may be the only chance I ever have to correct the henryv.

Both are acceptable.
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[rambofireball]

Both are acceptable.
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HAHA!

I shouldn't even try.

[houstontexas]

As far as Demiurge how much of a stim feeling are we talking? Could you compare it to something on the market as far as stim effect goes?

Bump

[Littlefry]

As far as Demiurge how much of a stim feeling are we talking? Could you compare it to something on the market as far as stim effect goes?

I wouldnt really say it has a stim type of effect. Itr provides focus rather than stimulation if that makes any sense. If you looking for stim Id go with Axon, as if your using Demiurge as a "stim" you wont get that kick you are used to. Although the focus from Demiurge is pretty intense especailly at the higher dosages.

[houstontexas]

I wouldnt really say it has a stim type of effect. Itr provides focus rather than stimulation if that makes any sense. If you looking for stim Id go with Axon, as if your using Demiurge as a "stim" you wont get that kick you are used to. Although the focus from Demiurge is pretty intense especailly at the higher dosages.

Oh when I was researching the ingredient it said it was the only racetam that gave a stim effect. My main concern is that I already use somewhat heavy stims depending on the supplements I'm using and I wouldn't want to overdo it by adding a nootropic with a stim effect. So say I take 1.5 or 2 scoops of PES Alphamine (my current stim). The Demiurge should not effect that in a noticeable way except for adding focus, drive, etc. correct?

[houstontexas]

Just got my Demiurge in the mail today.

[Littlefry]

Oh when I was researching the ingredient it said it was the only racetam that gave a stim effect. My main concern is that I already use somewhat heavy stims depending on the supplements I'm using and I wouldn't want to overdo it by adding a nootropic with a stim effect. So say I take 1.5 or 2 scoops of PES Alphamine (my current stim). The Demiurge should not effect that in a noticeable way except for adding focus, drive, etc. correct?

It has a stim like effect on some, but is not directly a stim product. It will mainly add focus and drive. If your looking for a good PreWO stack I suggest 4 caps Demiurge with 2-3 caps Axon.....that **** will get you going and jacked for the gym.

[T-Bone]

Can someone help with the difference here? I see Axon has caffeine but other than that this is a new type of product for me... What's the main difference between the two, and what should be expected from each? Thanks!

Where do you see that?, because I don't see that anywhere listed.

[houstontexas]

It has a stim like effect on some, but is not directly a stim product. It will mainly add focus and drive. If your looking for a good PreWO stack I suggest 4 caps Demiurge with 2-3 caps Axon.....that **** will get you going and jacked for the gym.

I'm mostly concerned with functioning better at work

[mr.cooper69]

Where do you see that?, because I don't see that anywhere listed.

It has 60mg per cap and it's on the label.

[bdcc]

fungi.*

Sorry, had to take advantage of what may be the only chance I ever have to correct the henryv.

Both are acceptable.
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Henryv is a secret spy.

If you ever see him make a mistake, it is because he wanted​ to make a mistake...