Demiurge vs Axon?

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  1. Demiurge vs Axon?


    Can someone help with the difference here? I see Axon has caffeine but other than that this is a new type of product for me... What's the main difference between the two, and what should be expected from each? Thanks!


  2. Demiurge is phenylpiracetam, Axon is hederagenin.

    http://www.antaeuslabs.com/axon.html

    http://www.totalflexblog.com/articles/phenylpiracetam/

    Research it!

    Both quality stims.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by rambofireball
    Demiurge is phenylpiracetam, Axon is hederagenin.

    http://www.antaeuslabs.com/axon.html

    http://www.totalflexblog.com/articles/phenylpiracetam/

    Research it!

    Both quality stims.
    Pesticide=no go for me! Thanks

  4. Axon is our stim type product, and Demiurge is our nootropic product. Both can be used as a PreWO boost. Axon brings the energy and Demiurge brings the focus. Personally when I use them I stack them on workout days 20-30mins Pre with 2-3 caps Axon and 4 caps Demiurge.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Littlefry View Post
    Axon is our stim type product, and Demiurge is our nootropic product. Both can be used as a PreWO boost. Axon brings the energy and Demiurge brings the focus. Personally when I use them I stack them on workout days 20-30mins Pre with 2-3 caps Axon and 4 caps Demiurge.
    I'm picking up some Demiurge, I'm interested in trying a nootropic, but the stuff being used as a pesticide in Axon kinda bothers me; I'm sure it works, but I would feel better with Demiurge. Thanks for the reply!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by kc777 View Post
    I'm picking up some Demiurge, I'm interested in trying a nootropic, but the stuff being used as a pesticide in Axon kinda bothers me; I'm sure it works, but I would feel better with Demiurge. Thanks for the reply!
    Sounds good man. Start with 2 caps Demiurge and work your way up to 6 caps. Only use it on Workout days or no more than 4x a week. After 6 weeks on take 2-3 weeks off.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by kc777 View Post
    Pesticide=no go for me! Thanks
    Naturally-occurring compounds like resveratrol and hederagenin are produced by plants as a defence against things like microbes and funguses. Resveratrol has been successfully used as a topical pesticide* but has a whole host of well-documented health benefits in humans and other animals.

    You're presumably associating them with artificial organochloride insecticides, but they're completely different things.

    * J Agric Food Chem. 2003 Jan 1;51(1):82-9.

  8. As far as Demiurge how much of a stim feeling are we talking? Could you compare it to something on the market as far as stim effect goes?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by henryv

    funguses.
    fungi.*

    Sorry, had to take advantage of what may be the only chance I ever have to correct the henryv.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by rambofireball View Post
    fungi.*

    Sorry, had to take advantage of what may be the only chance I ever have to correct the henryv.
    Both are acceptable.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    HAHA!

    I shouldn't even try.
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by houstontexas
    As far as Demiurge how much of a stim feeling are we talking? Could you compare it to something on the market as far as stim effect goes?
    Bump

  13. Quote Originally Posted by houstontexas View Post
    As far as Demiurge how much of a stim feeling are we talking? Could you compare it to something on the market as far as stim effect goes?
    I wouldnt really say it has a stim type of effect. Itr provides focus rather than stimulation if that makes any sense. If you looking for stim Id go with Axon, as if your using Demiurge as a "stim" you wont get that kick you are used to. Although the focus from Demiurge is pretty intense especailly at the higher dosages.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Littlefry View Post
    I wouldnt really say it has a stim type of effect. Itr provides focus rather than stimulation if that makes any sense. If you looking for stim Id go with Axon, as if your using Demiurge as a "stim" you wont get that kick you are used to. Although the focus from Demiurge is pretty intense especailly at the higher dosages.
    Oh when I was researching the ingredient it said it was the only racetam that gave a stim effect. My main concern is that I already use somewhat heavy stims depending on the supplements I'm using and I wouldn't want to overdo it by adding a nootropic with a stim effect. So say I take 1.5 or 2 scoops of PES Alphamine (my current stim). The Demiurge should not effect that in a noticeable way except for adding focus, drive, etc. correct?

  15. Just got my Demiurge in the mail today.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by houstontexas View Post
    Oh when I was researching the ingredient it said it was the only racetam that gave a stim effect. My main concern is that I already use somewhat heavy stims depending on the supplements I'm using and I wouldn't want to overdo it by adding a nootropic with a stim effect. So say I take 1.5 or 2 scoops of PES Alphamine (my current stim). The Demiurge should not effect that in a noticeable way except for adding focus, drive, etc. correct?
    It has a stim like effect on some, but is not directly a stim product. It will mainly add focus and drive. If your looking for a good PreWO stack I suggest 4 caps Demiurge with 2-3 caps Axon.....that **** will get you going and jacked for the gym.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by kc777 View Post
    Can someone help with the difference here? I see Axon has caffeine but other than that this is a new type of product for me... What's the main difference between the two, and what should be expected from each? Thanks!
    Where do you see that?, because I don't see that anywhere listed.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Littlefry

    It has a stim like effect on some, but is not directly a stim product. It will mainly add focus and drive. If your looking for a good PreWO stack I suggest 4 caps Demiurge with 2-3 caps Axon.....that **** will get you going and jacked for the gym.
    I'm mostly concerned with functioning better at work

  19. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Where do you see that?, because I don't see that anywhere listed.
    It has 60mg per cap and it's on the label.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by rambofireball View Post
    fungi.*

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  21. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    It has 60mg per cap and it's on the label.

    I was looking on the website and didn't see caffeine listed, don't have a bottle but have been wanting to try Axon for some time now. Demiurge makes me feel like I'm about to pass out/tired.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by houstontexas View Post
    I'm mostly concerned with functioning better at work
    If your looking to use it for work I would go with Demiurge over Axon. Although this also depends on the type of work you are doing.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    It has 60mg per cap and it's on the label.
    Correct. 60mg per cap
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  23. Interested to hear how it worked for you Houston Texas.

  24. Today went well. I took 1 scoop of Alphamine instead of my usual 1.5-2 scoops and dropped my HT2 until an hour later after I had a feel for the Demi. I didn't really "feel" anything, but I noticed throughout the day I was more productive and able to finish tasks quicker. I was also a little more scatter brained than normal so it took a little effort to make sure I stayed on point. Overall it went well and I will bump it up tomorrow to 150mg to see if it makes a difference.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I was looking on the website and didn't see caffeine listed, don't have a bottle but have been wanting to try Axon for some time now. Demiurge makes me feel like I'm about to pass out/tired.
    Good, send it to me, my comprehensive final is a week away

  26. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Good, send it to me, my comprehensive final is a week away
    Traded it with houston texas for some gut health.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Traded it with houston texas for some gut health.
    I would have traded you 3 bottles (srs).

  28. I got 2 bottles of Gut Health for it.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    I would have traded you 3 bottles (srs).
    You could have traded 2 if you saw his ad first lol. I'll send you a few caps if you want though.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by houstontexas View Post
    You could have traded 2 if you saw his ad first lol. I'll send you a few caps if you want though.
    Lol I'm good man, I've got plenty
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