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    Talking PHAT journey continues with an AI Piņata (more products than u can shake a stick at)


    Background & Goals

    Hi guys, so those of you who have been following my main log you will be familiar with my story, for those of you who aren't please feel free to catch up on From FAT to PHAT, my journey so far...

    I know you're might be too lazy to look, so the important piece is this; with the help of a better diet, lot's of excercise, some supplements and the people on this board, i've gone from looking like this:-

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    to looking like this:- (picture taken last Saturday)

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    My goal remains to lean out, build muscle and eventually have a six pack.

    I recently ran 8 week's of LG's natradol and now in PCT, and following some excellent information on other people's logs using AI products, I decided (after some discussion with the AI reps) to run the following

    Post Cycle Therapy

    Supp staples (fish oils, cissus, ASGT +AP, low carb protein, green tea, CLA)

    Formadrol - using up what I have left should get me around 21 days, dosed as follows

    week 2 - 4 a day week 3 - 3 a day

    From 1st September for 30 days precisely

    AI SWOLE stack (glycobol/Testopro/stoked) - dosed as directed
    AI HGHPro - dosed as directed
    AI Life Support - dosed as directed (and really part of my staples anyway)
    DS Lean Xtreme - Cort control (as directed) 3 per day, 2am pre workout + 1, 4 hrs later BUT on double traning days i.e. TaeKwonDo and Weights, i'll be taking the second dose pre-workout and on non-training days 2 on waking and 1, 4 hrs later.

    I also have an ECA stack on the way, but I have as of yet not decided whether or not I will start this during this 30 day period or wait until later

    Workout Protocol

    Over the next 6 weeks i'm going to be taking a volume based approach to my weight training, in that hope that lighter weights will help aid recovery, but also assist in my quest to further lean out. The routine I've choosed from my little collection is geared towards building broader shoulders, which of course as we all know is what gives a nice V shape to the body and will hopefully make me look leaner even if i am not!

    I will be attempting to do each set with the same weight to failure, with the next set being 5 less than the previous set and so for 4 sets (5 if time/stamina allows). Once these become too easy, I will either up the weight or the number of reps. Starting set rep goal is 25, if i've choosen a weight that is too light I will carry on until I fail and then drop the next set by 5 - hopefully you get the picture

    In addition I also do a Martial Art, TaeKwonDon(TKD), and will be doing this 4 - 5 hrs per week.

    My typical schedule is Mon TKD (pm) Tues GYM (am) Wed TKD (pm) Thurs GYM (am) Fri Rest Sat Gym (am) TKD (pm) Sun Rest - work does occasionally get in the way and I have to mix it up a bit where I could be training am/pm on the same day i.e. Gym (am) and TKD (pm)

    Starting Stats
    (taken lunchtime 1st September, no pump - all measurements are unflexed)

    Weight 186lbs
    BF% 19.7% (scales) 14.99% (calipers - still not sure how good I am with this method yet)
    Ankle 9.5"
    Calf 16.5"
    Thigh 21"
    Hips 37.5"
    Waist 36" (around the navel and yes this is were all the fat primarily remains)
    Chest 42"
    Neck 15"
    Wrist 7"
    Forearm 12"
    Bicep 14"


    Workout - Wednesday 1st September 2010

    Incline Bench - 66lbs + smith bar
    25/20/15/10/5

    Lateral DB Raise - 15lbs
    25/20/15/10/5

    Incline Lat Pulldown -88lbs
    25/20/15/10/5

    Standing Cable Crossover - 16.5lbs
    25/20/15/10/5

    Back Extension - 22lbs
    25/20/15/10/5

    Incline Side Bends - (done on a the Back Extension bench) 33lbs each side
    25/20/15/10/5


    TaeKwonDo 1h15mins & 5 mile walk

    Workout - Thursday 2nd September 2010

    Front Squat - 66lbs excl Smith bar
    25/20/15/10/10

    Leg Curl - 66lbs
    25/20/15/10/5

    Adducter Machine - 99lbs
    40/35/30/25/20

    Abducter Machine - 99lbs
    40/35/30/25/20

    Calf Raise - 88lbs excl Smith bar
    30/25/20/15/10

    Swiss Ball Jacknife
    25/20/15/10/5

    Swiss Ball Russian Twist - 18lb medicine ball
    25/20/15/10/5

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    I am in and it is you that have my damn AI pinata. You may have got my pinata but stay the heck away from my beer keg girls or you will pay dearly!!!!


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    That has been some great progress you made. I didn't even start taking pictures till I was partway through on mine, as my starting point 4 years ago was so terrible
    This space for rent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    here my friend!!
    Number 1.... you even beat the reps!!! outstanding work major...

    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I'm in.
    Number 2.... hello mate, thanks for joining, I don't think i ever invited you to the original thread, so didn't want to miss you this time around!

    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    I am in and it is you that have my damn AI pinata. You may have got my pinata but stay the heck away from my beer keg girls or you will pay dearly!!!!


    love that Yellow solo cup!!

    Anyway, nice of you to finally turn up, hope you're not going to claim the global time difference was an issue... where's stx? still sleeping/lurking most likely! As we speak he's probably hatching a masterplan to redirect all the HGHPro samples to his house, i'm still sure he's the one with the real pinata!

    BTW i'm looking forward to more pics, i'm starting to think you may be more than a "little" obsessed with this one Pem! (and much like someone else, I need to have a very KLEEN pc, so I expect all libdio checks to come from everyone but me!)

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    That has been some great progress you made. I didn't even start taking pictures till I was partway through on mine, as my starting point 4 years ago was so terrible
    Welcome! and congrats on your appointment!

    Pics- I actually wish i'd taken more!! That one i found by accident about two weeks ago, but I have religiously been taking them since joining the board.

    Believe it or not, I actually should have some in old 4x3 35mm from around 1999 - 2000 when I weighed ~ 280lbs!! I think they're in that "box" in the garage, you know the one, the one that moves from house to house BUT never gets unpacked!!! I'm sure everyone has got one of those...

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    present sir! continue to tear it up!
    Fantastic mate, hello! Thanks for joining mate, appreciate it, hoping to continue to make some good progress here, really looking forward to this stack i've built even if only for 30days - but hey you never know, I may be inclined to extend it

    Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    Yo!
    legend! thanks for coming along XT, nice to have you here, I always mean to ask... what level football did you play at, i'm guessing all the way? NFL? if so what team or prefer not to say? Anyway, great to have you here bro, it's an honour and priviledge

    Wow, what a great bunch so far... thanks guys. I have to say i'm feeling a little drained after the past two days, work has been manic, hence not getting my workout in on Tuesday, but then made up for it yesterday with an am / pm session and then again this morning!

    Tonight i'm looking forward to some R&R, a good meal and an Epsom Salt bath...

    Tomorrow is rest day (if you read my schedule ) but I may try some abs work for 30mins or so in the morning at home, i'm feeling a bit like a lump of jello in the midsection which had me feeling i'd put on weight, but scales and mirror suggested otherwise yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I am in kill it man!
    and a warm welcome, to the bigger better looking version of ME!!! well one day perhaps, if only I had your drive and focus mate, thanks for stopping by - loving your log by the way!!!

    Anyone reading this that hasn't been to Kleen's latest log really should check it out KLEEN MASS with Super-DMZ (Dymethazine)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    Number 1.... you even beat the reps!!! outstanding work major...



    Number 2.... hello mate, thanks for joining, I don't think i ever invited you to the original thread, so didn't want to miss you this time around!



    love that Yellow solo cup!!

    Anyway, nice of you to finally turn up, hope you're not going to claim the global time difference was an issue... where's stx? still sleeping/lurking most likely! As we speak he's probably hatching a masterplan to redirect all the HGHPro samples to his house, i'm still sure he's the one with the real pinata!

    BTW i'm looking forward to more pics, i'm starting to think you may be more than a "little" obsessed with this one Pem! (and much like someone else, I need to have a very KLEEN pc, so I expect all libdio checks to come from everyone but me!)



    Welcome! and congrats on your appointment!

    Pics- I actually wish i'd taken more!! That one i found by accident about two weeks ago, but I have religiously been taking them since joining the board.

    Believe it or not, I actually should have some in old 4x3 35mm from around 1999 - 2000 when I weighed ~ 280lbs!! I think they're in that "box" in the garage, you know the one, the one that moves from house to house BUT never gets unpacked!!! I'm sure everyone has got one of those...



    Fantastic mate, hello! Thanks for joining mate, appreciate it, hoping to continue to make some good progress here, really looking forward to this stack i've built even if only for 30days - but hey you never know, I may be inclined to extend it



    legend! thanks for coming along XT, nice to have you here, I always mean to ask... what level football did you play at, i'm guessing all the way? NFL? if so what team or prefer not to say? Anyway, great to have you here bro, it's an honour and priviledge

    Wow, what a great bunch so far... thanks guys. I have to say i'm feeling a little drained after the past two days, work has been manic, hence not getting my workout in on Tuesday, but then made up for it yesterday with an am / pm session and then again this morning!

    Tonight i'm looking forward to some R&R, a good meal and an Epsom Salt bath...

    Tomorrow is rest day (if you read my schedule ) but I may try some abs work for 30mins or so in the morning at home, i'm feeling a bit like a lump of jello in the midsection which had me feeling i'd put on weight, but scales and mirror suggested otherwise yesterday.
    Nothing really to brag about...long story short, I had a cup of coffee on the Philadelphia Eagles practice squad in the mid-'90s. I only played basketball in high school and college, even though coaches at both levels tried to get me to play football. I even received a letter/application from the Cowboys in college, but never returned it. I was toying with the idea of playing football my senior year in college, but I let my b-ball coach talk me out of it, saying, "If you get hurt, you won't make All-American." Hindsight's always 20-20, right? LOL. But this is about YOU, bro! KILL IT! We've got your back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    Nothing really to brag about...long story short, I had a cup of coffee on the Philadelphia Eagles practice squad in the mid-'90s. I only played basketball in high school and college, even though coaches at both levels tried to get me to play football. I even received a letter/application from the Cowboys in college, but never returned it. I was toying with the idea of playing football my senior year in college, but I let my b-ball coach talk me out of it, saying, "If you get hurt, you won't make All-American." Hindsight's always 20-20, right? LOL. But this is about YOU, bro! KILL IT! We've got your back!
    Too true on the hindsight being 20-20, what's worse is when you watch your kids make similar decisions/choices.... and you think NOOOOO, but we all gotta learn right, and who's to say we know best - mind boggling, still working on getting that crystal ball!!

    I know you guys got my back, your combined presence here is evidence of that, thanks guys
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    Excellent progress so far! Keep it coming!
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    I'm in on this one too!!
    Keep up the hard work man!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    Background & Goals

    Hi guys, so those of you who have been following my main log you will be familiar with my story, for those of you who aren't please feel free to catch up on From FAT to PHAT, my journey so far...

    I know you're might be too lazy to look, so the important piece is this; with the help of a better diet, lot's of excercise, some supplements and the people on this board, i've gone from looking like this:-

    Name:  Harpoon me!.jpg
Views: 486
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    to looking like this:- (picture taken last Saturday)

    Name:  Progress 28082010 004 (598x800).jpg
Views: 512
Size:  146.1 KB

    My goal remains to lean out, build muscle and eventually have a six pack.

    I recently ran 8 week's of LG's natradol and now in PCT, and following some excellent information on other people's logs using AI products, I decided (after some discussion with the AI reps) to run the following

    Post Cycle Therapy

    Supp staples (fish oils, cissus, ASGT +AP, low carb protein, green tea, CLA)

    Formadrol - using up what I have left should get me around 21 days, dosed as follows

    week 2 - 4 a day week 3 - 3 a day

    From 1st September for 30 days precisely

    AI SWOLE stack (glycobol/Testopro/stoked) - dosed as directed
    AI HGHPro - dosed as directed
    AI Life Support - dosed as directed (and really part of my staples anyway)
    DS Lean Xtreme - Cort control (as directed) 3 per day, 2am pre workout + 1, 4 hrs later BUT on double traning days i.e. TaeKwonDo and Weights, i'll be taking the second dose pre-workout and on non-training days 2 on waking and 1, 4 hrs later.

    I also have an ECA stack on the way, but I have as of yet not decided whether or not I will start this during this 30 day period or wait until later

    Workout Protocol

    Over the next 6 weeks i'm going to be taking a volume based approach to my weight training, in that hope that lighter weights will help aid recovery, but also assist in my quest to further lean out. The routine I've choosed from my little collection is geared towards building broader shoulders, which of course as we all know is what gives a nice V shape to the body and will hopefully make me look leaner even if i am not!

    I will be attempting to do each set with the same weight to failure, with the next set being 5 less than the previous set and so for 4 sets (5 if time/stamina allows). Once these become too easy, I will either up the weight or the number of reps. Starting set rep goal is 25, if i've choosen a weight that is too light I will carry on until I fail and then drop the next set by 5 - hopefully you get the picture

    In addition I also do a Martial Art, TaeKwonDon(TKD), and will be doing this 4 - 5 hrs per week.

    My typical schedule is Mon TKD (pm) Tues GYM (am) Wed TKD (pm) Thurs GYM (am) Fri Rest Sat Gym (am) TKD (pm) Sun Rest - work does occasionally get in the way and I have to mix it up a bit where I could be training am/pm on the same day i.e. Gym (am) and TKD (pm)

    Starting Stats
    (taken lunchtime 1st September, no pump - all measurements are unflexed)

    Weight 186lbs
    BF% 19.7% (scales) 14.99% (calipers - still not sure how good I am with this method yet)
    Ankle 9.5"
    Calf 16.5"
    Thigh 21"
    Hips 37.5"
    Waist 36" (around the navel and yes this is were all the fat primarily remains)
    Chest 42"
    Neck 15"
    Wrist 7"
    Forearm 12"
    Bicep 14"


    Workout - Wednesday 1st September 2010

    Incline Bench - 66lbs + smith bar
    25/20/15/10/5

    Lateral DB Raise - 15lbs
    25/20/15/10/5

    Incline Lat Pulldown -88lbs
    25/20/15/10/5

    Standing Cable Crossover - 16.5lbs
    25/20/15/10/5

    Back Extension - 22lbs
    25/20/15/10/5

    Incline Side Bends - (done on a the Back Extension bench) 33lbs each side
    25/20/15/10/5


    TaeKwonDo 1h15mins & 5 mile walk

    Workout - Thursday 2nd September 2010

    Front Squat - 66lbs excl Smith bar
    25/20/15/10/10

    Leg Curl - 66lbs
    25/20/15/10/5

    Adducter Machine - 99lbs
    40/35/30/25/20

    Abducter Machine - 99lbs
    40/35/30/25/20

    Calf Raise - 88lbs excl Smith bar
    30/25/20/15/10

    Swiss Ball Jacknife
    25/20/15/10/5

    Swiss Ball Russian Twist - 18lb medicine ball
    25/20/15/10/5

    Use calipers and you can down 10-12 lbs (water and fat) in two weeks with Atkins Diet simply and easy.

    and congrats man NICE job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    Number 1.... you even beat the reps!!! outstanding work major...



    Number 2.... hello mate, thanks for joining, I don't think i ever invited you to the original thread, so didn't want to miss you this time around!



    love that Yellow solo cup!!

    Anyway, nice of you to finally turn up, hope you're not going to claim the global time difference was an issue... where's stx? still sleeping/lurking most likely! As we speak he's probably hatching a masterplan to redirect all the HGHPro samples to his house, i'm still sure he's the one with the real pinata!

    BTW i'm looking forward to more pics, i'm starting to think you may be more than a "little" obsessed with this one Pem! (and much like someone else, I need to have a very KLEEN pc, so I expect all libdio checks to come from everyone but me!)



    Welcome! and congrats on your appointment!

    Pics- I actually wish i'd taken more!! That one i found by accident about two weeks ago, but I have religiously been taking them since joining the board.

    Believe it or not, I actually should have some in old 4x3 35mm from around 1999 - 2000 when I weighed ~ 280lbs!! I think they're in that "box" in the garage, you know the one, the one that moves from house to house BUT never gets unpacked!!! I'm sure everyone has got one of those...



    Fantastic mate, hello! Thanks for joining mate, appreciate it, hoping to continue to make some good progress here, really looking forward to this stack i've built even if only for 30days - but hey you never know, I may be inclined to extend it



    legend! thanks for coming along XT, nice to have you here, I always mean to ask... what level football did you play at, i'm guessing all the way? NFL? if so what team or prefer not to say? Anyway, great to have you here bro, it's an honour and priviledge

    Wow, what a great bunch so far... thanks guys. I have to say i'm feeling a little drained after the past two days, work has been manic, hence not getting my workout in on Tuesday, but then made up for it yesterday with an am / pm session and then again this morning!

    Tonight i'm looking forward to some R&R, a good meal and an Epsom Salt bath...

    Tomorrow is rest day (if you read my schedule ) but I may try some abs work for 30mins or so in the morning at home, i'm feeling a bit like a lump of jello in the midsection which had me feeling i'd put on weight, but scales and mirror suggested otherwise yesterday.
    Probably hatching a plan with you to move in on my beer keg girls. I warn you don't do it LOL.
    Ask me for samples of the new RecoverPRO and Maniac. 3Z is coming July 1st Facebook for more info and maybe a great deal on it coming.
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    Ok since we are making pinata jokes, and I was talking about not having many "fat" me pictures, i'll share one
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    Hey gwls,

    Nice change!

    do you mind if I give you constructive criticism if I see anything I think may give better results?

    Looking forward to seeing your results!

    what is your diet like, are you counting P, CHO, and F, and total calories?

    I don't mean counting little stuff that does not matter like the protein in beans, or veggies, and too many little details, I find it is just not worth it, I used to count just about everything, changed my point of view though
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    Tremendous stack! Cant wait!!

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    I saw the bat signal and am IN... I am very interested in this as we both just came off Natadrol and are in the middle of Formadrol.

    I have toyed with the idea of the Trifecta but am leaning more towards staying "natural" and the Swole stake can had my interest for some time!!!!

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    Anyway, nice of you to finally turn up, hope you're not going to claim the global time difference was an issue... where's stx? still sleeping/lurking most likely! As we speak he's probably hatching a masterplan to redirect all the HGHPro samples to his house, i'm still sure he's the one with the real pinata!
    I subbed yesterday before going to sleep (I'm stuck on the midnight shift right now) and just came back to check things out.

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    In with a grin!!
    Happy to be here and looking forward to witnessing more incredible improvements to your musculature.

    You have made a tremendous transformation with your physique already. And the best is yet to come.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Ok since we are making pinata jokes, and I was talking about not having many "fat" me pictures, i'll share one
    Which one are you
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
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    buahahahahaha NICE!!!!
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    Welcome everyone!!!


    Wow great support, I feel pumped by your presence and kind words, really looking forward to tomorrow's two workouts to see if I can tell any noticable difference in either of them. It's "arms" day tomorrow morning and then a small hike to TKD training and then home. Don't know what the missus has planned but I will try and update sometime tomorrow night, but failing that Sunday!!

    Been a shattering week at work, i've just finished for today but had another day of no breaks and working through lunch (love it when people think that "free" hour in the middle of diary means i'm available for yet another audio conference!) - hoping for some quality time with the family tonight, since it feels like i've been away even though I haven't, if you know what I mean!

    Some initial comments on the stack

    Agression - only a couple of days, but I think agression is definitely up and I will need to keep this in check (particularly at TKD, i've already had the are on gear question a few times over the past few months due to the ongoing physical changes and teenage acne outbreaks),

    Sleep & recovery - I had a GREAT nights sleep last night and i'm pretty sure my shoulder feels better, also DOMS is minimal, yet I had thought that am/pm/am workout this week would have had me walking like a cowboy!

    Libido - is HUGE, I have issued the "co-pilot" (in EMARTIN terminology) with a formal advance warning of increased flightplans being logged she says she doesn't think that's possible and not sure if she will recognise the difference.... I beg to differ

    So now for some more personal responses....

    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Excellent progress so far! Keep it coming!
    Thanks mate, i know you've seen it all before in the other log, but it's really motivating to put them side by side and just keep reminding myself of how far i've come so far..

    Quote Originally Posted by scope75 View Post
    I'm in on this one too!!
    Keep up the hard work man!!
    Thanks bro, don't worry I will, there's a six pack on my christmas list and I plan to have it! nice to have you here!

    Quote Originally Posted by Liftergym33 View Post
    In!
    LG33 thanks mate, and to all the LG crew, you know how far we've come and i'm glad that you're all still supporting the log even though this is an AI log.. respect guys, how many boards can say that all their company reps all support one another and get onboard to support the minions like me, no whose products they are running

    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    Use calipers and you can down 10-12 lbs (water and fat) in two weeks with Atkins Diet simply and easy.

    and congrats man NICE job!
    Thanks Max! cutting 10-12lbs sounds great, interestingly I have got an Atkins book and whilst I use it for reference in trying to re-educate my carb control, I haven't been following it religiously i.e. as a proper diet. Following a particular diet is hard when you have a family, but I may have a plan and if it works we'll all be losing weight in the household.

    Calipers, yep i've got some and I guess it involves some practive, going to persevere on them, which is why I did both.

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Hey, you should do well on this stack... stick to your guns...
    Thanks mate, and I see my post on your log and your post on mine must have crossed over... i have a list of who I think i've PM'd now, but rapidly losing track LOL oh welll, so glad you came along

    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    IN!!!
    Cheers mate, good to have you here, no AT2 this time, but I did run it for 8 weeks so probably best if I give it a rest for a few weeks! but as you can see, there may be some ECA action on the horizon!!

    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    Probably hatching a plan with you to move in on my beer keg girls. I warn you don't do it LOL.
    yep plan underway, you'll never know what hit you!

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Ok since we are making pinata jokes, and I was talking about not having many "fat" me pictures, i'll share one
    nice pic mate, I hadn't realised there was a festival, what the hell do you do at a pinata festival?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    Hey gwls,

    Nice change!

    do you mind if I give you constructive criticism if I see anything I think may give better results?

    Looking forward to seeing your results!

    what is your diet like, are you counting P, CHO, and F, and total calories?

    I don't mean counting little stuff that does not matter like the protein in beans, or veggies, and too many little details, I find it is just not worth it, I used to count just about everything, changed my point of view though
    JS, feel free to criticise away mate, i've got thick skin, been fat, been nerdy, so i'm pretty comfortable with criticism, especially when it's for my benefit.

    Nail on head John, my diet could be better, I know it! No I don't count, I know the principles of what I should be doing and I try to adhere to them as close as possible, without becoming obsessive about counting... i did that once before in my life, lost like 50lbs+ BUT because I hadn't truly re-educated myself in the way that I ate, I put 50% of it back on (as you can see from the pics). My theory being, I like food and I like how it tastes, when I was counting, i counted, stuck to the rules and lost weight... then i stopped counting, then I didn't really follow any rules and i gained weight. This time I have been following no specific diets or counting but keeping protein high, carbs low and complex and making sure I eat good fats.

    However today I started a food diary after reading your post (and Max's) this morning (weekends ARE not a good time to start this with the family BUT i'm going to be honest and do it anyway) - so we shall soon know how bad my diet is or isn't and what changes need to be urgently made!! This week my frequency of eating has been terrible due to work committments, but i'll plan better next week.

    see you've forced me to look at myself already and you haven't even started criticising me!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Tremendous stack! Cant wait!!

    IM subbed!
    thanks bro and thanks for coming along, much appreciated

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    Subbed
    my friend dragon! good to have you here mate, nice one!!

    Quote Originally Posted by EMARTIN View Post
    I saw the bat signal and am IN... I am very interested in this as we both just came off Natadrol and are in the middle of Formadrol.

    I have toyed with the idea of the Trifecta but am leaning more towards staying "natural" and the Swole stake can had my interest for some time!!!!

    Keep pushing your boundries, reaching and setting new goals! BEAST!
    LOL, thought you might be interested in this, don't forget I did do trifecta already, but admittedly I think i didn't run it for long enough... I guess that's why i am keeping an open mind about the duration of this stack, since I may extend it out for max results! - good to have you here!

    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    I subbed yesterday before going to sleep (I'm stuck on the midnight shift right now) and just came back to check things out.

    ...there's no HGHpro pinata. It was a TestoPRO pinata!
    there could be an HGHPro pinata if you got off your butt and sorted out redirection of all the samples that are about to be sent out!!

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Which one are you
    LMFAO, you know what I read your post before i started typing all my responses and then just couldn't really think of anything to say when responding to Easy's OP!!! too funny mate, good one...
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    I believe my friends that this has all the making of a stellar log! feel free to go off topic, post pics, have a laugh, share funny stories and oh yes, occassionally i'll review the products and do my bit too!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    Nothing really to brag about...long story short, I had a cup of coffee on the Philadelphia Eagles practice squad in the mid-'90s. I only played basketball in high school and college, even though coaches at both levels tried to get me to play football. I even received a letter/application from the Cowboys in college, but never returned it. I was toying with the idea of playing football my senior year in college, but I let my b-ball coach talk me out of it, saying, "If you get hurt, you won't make All-American." Hindsight's always 20-20, right? LOL. But this is about YOU, bro! KILL IT! We've got your back!
    Nice I always find it interesting that many guys have two options and when loking back often think they should have opted for the other.
    Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    Too true on the hindsight being 20-20, what's worse is when you watch your kids make similar decisions/choices.... and you think NOOOOO, but we all gotta learn right, and who's to say we know best - mind boggling, still working on getting that crystal ball!!

    I know you guys got my back, your combined presence here is evidence of that, thanks guys
    You know as many bad decisions I made in the past they made me into a guy that I am proud to be. So regardless of the "what if's", when it is all said and done the "What is" is what life is all about. It isn't about what could be or could have been, just "What is" because that is all you know for sure that you have. Enjoy what you have and work now to change what you don't like or learn to accept it and move on. That is the key to happiness for me.


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    I believe my friends that this has all the making of a stellar log! feel free to go off topic, post pics, have a laugh, share funny stories and oh yes, occassionally i'll review the products and do my bit too!!
    Yes it definitely does, and you have a killer stack there too. Just keep on smashing it and you will achieve your goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    nice pic mate, I hadn't realised there was a festival, what the hell do you do at a pinata festival?
    That was actually the launch party for the game Viva Pinata for the Xbox 360. I have 2 real pinatas of the horse that I scored there. Its a fun game, my kids still play it almost 5 years later. It was one of the launch titles. I happened to be in LA for work the day they held that on Santa Monica Pier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Nice I always find it interesting that many guys have two options and when loking back often think they should have opted for the other.
    You know as many bad decisions I made in the past they made me into a guy that I am proud to be. So regardless of the "what if's", when it is all said and done the "What is" is what life is all about. It isn't about what could be or could have been, just "What is" because that is all you know for sure that you have. Enjoy what you have and work now to change what you don't like or learn to accept it and move on. That is the key to happiness for me.

    Yes it definitely does, and you have a killer stack there too. Just keep on smashing it and you will achieve your goals.
    Too true mate, I often reflect on the hardships of my for my family during my childhood BUT I completely know that it has made me completely what I am and the belief in making one's own path in life - choose life don't wait for it to choose you. So many things are mind over matter, it's amazing what can be accomplished if you really set out to achieve something, and that goes for everything AND of course thanks for your encouragement, i'd made no secret of how much I admire your accomplishments and work ethic, so your confidence in me means a lot

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    That was actually the launch party for the game Viva Pinata for the Xbox 360. I have 2 real pinatas of the horse that I scored there. Its a fun game, my kids still play it almost 5 years later. It was one of the launch titles. I happened to be in LA for work the day they held that on Santa Monica Pier.
    Hell i'm going to have to find that game now just to play it!!! very cool, we have every console known to man in this house, just eagerly awaiting the launch of "UFC Trainer", really excited to see what it's like although i'm gonna wait for the reviews once launched in the new year to see what platform it works best on i.e. PS Move / Xbox Kinetic / Wii, since my feeling on the Wii whilst a laugh is that it doesn't quite sense my motions quick enough in fighting games, and with the TKD training I find it hard to slow the handspeed down and exagerate the moments enough to the right level for the console.
    LOVE games, but alas i don't get as much time to play them anymore, although every we couple of weeks we try to have a games night (21st century style) with the family, it's quite a laugh but you really need to leave egos and self consciousness at the door. Nothing like seeing 180lb male play Wii's just dance, certainly not coming to YouTube anytime soon!!!
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    Talking Workout Update


    Saturday 4th September 2010

    Well, the HGH is definitely working another night of sleeping like a baby, unfortunately I think the stress of the week brought about a headache yesterday evening, so I cancelled the flightplan with the "co-pilot" and she got the night off, she won't be soo lucky tonight!

    Got a solid 7hrs, and meant to get up but somehow drifted back off to neverland and ended up late, out of bed by 8h15 and the dog had to take a rain check on his walk so that I didn't impact on my training schedule.

    I have to say was very agitated with myself about this and left for the gym feeling a little flat BUT about half way there I think the AI ****tail kicked in and new I was going to have the necessary focus once I got there!! I must tell you now that I have run out of ASGT at the moment, so it could only be the AI stack kicking in with a pre-workout protein shake, since there wasn't anything else that could have "switched" me on - really liking this so far

    So the workouts then, bear in mind that the weights are very light but I am trying very hard for good form, max volume to failure and moderate tempo to complete each rep

    Dumbbell Bench - 31lbs
    30/25/20/15/10

    Alternating Twisting Dumbbell Curl - 18lbs (dropped the weight by 4lbs since last week to improve form, particularly on the high rep sets in a an attempt to remove the temptation to use momentum for the lift, but increased the volume)

    30/25/20/15/10/5 each side

    I cannot even begin to tell you the burn I had by this point, and sweat was of the charts, hardly surprising given what I am training in, clothes wise, at the moment (vibrams, shorts, ok no biggy, 3mm Neoprene compression belt for the rib/back injury as a bit of support, 3mm Neoprene wetsuit vest to help capture and provide a little extra heat, L/S north face baselayer fleece & a nikefit storm running jacket just to keep everything boiling away)

    Standing Barbell behind Neck Press - 44lbs
    30/25/20/15/10

    Bench Dips
    30/25/20/15/10/5

    Decline close-grip bench press (using the 33lb plate)
    30/25/20/15/10

    Decline overhead tricep extension (keeping the plane of the body nice and straight and really letting the core engage as the plate just hovers an inch off the floor)

    25/20/15/10/5

    Decline ab crunch (using a 33lb plate) - sod the drop reps... i wanna six pack!

    25/25/25/25/25

    it's fair to say, I was grinning like a cheshire cat by the time I left the gym



    BUT

    no rest for the weak, so took my butt to TaeKwonDo

    The instructer's co-pilot must must have let him log a flightplan last night or this morning, 'cos he was on fire today...

    Started with a gentle warm up... not!! Lot's of foot work moves, knees up, heals up, bouncing on the spot, bouncing switch stances (southpaw to orthodox repeatedly), jumping jacks and then jumping jacks with punches, about 15mins no rest - then stretching for about 10mins - form patterns one move at a time, to his count perfect form and explosive power on each move or drop and give him 10 on the knuckles - and we did twenty patterns! by this time we're all f**ked and thinking wow at least it's time for the lesson to end, BUT no...

    he decided that the black belts hadn't been working hard enough, so he made everyone pair up with a partner one side of the dojang and do the following - while one of the pair sprint across the dojang and then starting doing an appropriate pattern for their grade, the "partner" at the other end of the dojang did knuckle pressups, and had to continue those until the partner doing the pattern had finished and sprinted back... then that person had to sprint across the dojang and do their pattern while the first partner did the pressups... this want on for a while, on the following rotation pressups, followed by sit ups, followed by squat thrusts, followed by burpees, followed by jumping jacks.

    Yes my friends it was 1.5hrs of pure brutality, i wonder what monday's 2hrs will be like?!?

    So that's it for today folks, i'm tired but really feel like i'd had an immense workout today, time for some chillin' with the family
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    Gwls's whatever works for you. I am a believer in counting calories all year long, losing body fat, or gaining muscle with a little bit added body fat. I just think I can control my results much better by knowing my body and how it responds.

    I think of what bodybuilders do to their body, as to what hackers due to computers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    Gwls's whatever works for you. I am a believer in counting calories all year long, losing body fat, or gaining muscle with a little bit added body fat. I just think I can control my results much better by knowing my body and how it responds.

    I think of what bodybuilders do to their body, as to what hackers due to computers.
    Totally agree John, and I think my more relaxed approach (not that the family would agree) has really paid dividends BUT I am starting to feel like progress has slowed and I'm not sure what more training effort I can put in... Combine that with knowing that my diet could be further improved and it seems the logical next step. If nothing else but to have a clearer picture of where I am against maintenance kcals and my CHO intake

    Keep it coming John!
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    CHO (carbohydrates) are very important for adding muscle(and some fat will come with that)

    and lowing them, and especially fat for,reducing body fat. That is how I like to do things currently.Protein generally needs to be raised while losing body fat. Its very individual though, some people like to keep protein at a gream , some 1.5 grams some 1.2, 1.4 etcccc

    I have tried the moderate fat, zero carb,low carb I could not train hard on the zero and extremely low carb. My log entails my nutrition
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