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  1. I believe my friends that this has all the making of a stellar log! feel free to go off topic, post pics, have a laugh, share funny stories and oh yes, occassionally i'll review the products and do my bit too!!


  2. Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    Nothing really to brag about...long story short, I had a cup of coffee on the Philadelphia Eagles practice squad in the mid-'90s. I only played basketball in high school and college, even though coaches at both levels tried to get me to play football. I even received a letter/application from the Cowboys in college, but never returned it. I was toying with the idea of playing football my senior year in college, but I let my b-ball coach talk me out of it, saying, "If you get hurt, you won't make All-American." Hindsight's always 20-20, right? LOL. But this is about YOU, bro! KILL IT! We've got your back!
    Nice I always find it interesting that many guys have two options and when loking back often think they should have opted for the other.
    Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    Too true on the hindsight being 20-20, what's worse is when you watch your kids make similar decisions/choices.... and you think NOOOOO, but we all gotta learn right, and who's to say we know best - mind boggling, still working on getting that crystal ball!!

    I know you guys got my back, your combined presence here is evidence of that, thanks guys
    You know as many bad decisions I made in the past they made me into a guy that I am proud to be. So regardless of the "what if's", when it is all said and done the "What is" is what life is all about. It isn't about what could be or could have been, just "What is" because that is all you know for sure that you have. Enjoy what you have and work now to change what you don't like or learn to accept it and move on. That is the key to happiness for me.


    Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    I believe my friends that this has all the making of a stellar log! feel free to go off topic, post pics, have a laugh, share funny stories and oh yes, occassionally i'll review the products and do my bit too!!
    Yes it definitely does, and you have a killer stack there too. Just keep on smashing it and you will achieve your goals.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    nice pic mate, I hadn't realised there was a festival, what the hell do you do at a pinata festival?
    That was actually the launch party for the game Viva Pinata for the Xbox 360. I have 2 real pinatas of the horse that I scored there. Its a fun game, my kids still play it almost 5 years later. It was one of the launch titles. I happened to be in LA for work the day they held that on Santa Monica Pier.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Nice I always find it interesting that many guys have two options and when loking back often think they should have opted for the other.
    You know as many bad decisions I made in the past they made me into a guy that I am proud to be. So regardless of the "what if's", when it is all said and done the "What is" is what life is all about. It isn't about what could be or could have been, just "What is" because that is all you know for sure that you have. Enjoy what you have and work now to change what you don't like or learn to accept it and move on. That is the key to happiness for me.

    Yes it definitely does, and you have a killer stack there too. Just keep on smashing it and you will achieve your goals.
    Too true mate, I often reflect on the hardships of my for my family during my childhood BUT I completely know that it has made me completely what I am and the belief in making one's own path in life - choose life don't wait for it to choose you. So many things are mind over matter, it's amazing what can be accomplished if you really set out to achieve something, and that goes for everything AND of course thanks for your encouragement, i'd made no secret of how much I admire your accomplishments and work ethic, so your confidence in me means a lot

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    That was actually the launch party for the game Viva Pinata for the Xbox 360. I have 2 real pinatas of the horse that I scored there. Its a fun game, my kids still play it almost 5 years later. It was one of the launch titles. I happened to be in LA for work the day they held that on Santa Monica Pier.
    Hell i'm going to have to find that game now just to play it!!! very cool, we have every console known to man in this house, just eagerly awaiting the launch of "UFC Trainer", really excited to see what it's like although i'm gonna wait for the reviews once launched in the new year to see what platform it works best on i.e. PS Move / Xbox Kinetic / Wii, since my feeling on the Wii whilst a laugh is that it doesn't quite sense my motions quick enough in fighting games, and with the TKD training I find it hard to slow the handspeed down and exagerate the moments enough to the right level for the console.
    LOVE games, but alas i don't get as much time to play them anymore, although every we couple of weeks we try to have a games night (21st century style) with the family, it's quite a laugh but you really need to leave egos and self consciousness at the door. Nothing like seeing 180lb male play Wii's just dance, certainly not coming to YouTube anytime soon!!!
  5. Talking Workout Update


    Saturday 4th September 2010

    Well, the HGH is definitely working another night of sleeping like a baby, unfortunately I think the stress of the week brought about a headache yesterday evening, so I cancelled the flightplan with the "co-pilot" and she got the night off, she won't be soo lucky tonight!

    Got a solid 7hrs, and meant to get up but somehow drifted back off to neverland and ended up late, out of bed by 8h15 and the dog had to take a rain check on his walk so that I didn't impact on my training schedule.

    I have to say was very agitated with myself about this and left for the gym feeling a little flat BUT about half way there I think the AI ****tail kicked in and new I was going to have the necessary focus once I got there!! I must tell you now that I have run out of ASGT at the moment, so it could only be the AI stack kicking in with a pre-workout protein shake, since there wasn't anything else that could have "switched" me on - really liking this so far

    So the workouts then, bear in mind that the weights are very light but I am trying very hard for good form, max volume to failure and moderate tempo to complete each rep

    Dumbbell Bench - 31lbs
    30/25/20/15/10

    Alternating Twisting Dumbbell Curl - 18lbs (dropped the weight by 4lbs since last week to improve form, particularly on the high rep sets in a an attempt to remove the temptation to use momentum for the lift, but increased the volume)

    30/25/20/15/10/5 each side

    I cannot even begin to tell you the burn I had by this point, and sweat was of the charts, hardly surprising given what I am training in, clothes wise, at the moment (vibrams, shorts, ok no biggy, 3mm Neoprene compression belt for the rib/back injury as a bit of support, 3mm Neoprene wetsuit vest to help capture and provide a little extra heat, L/S north face baselayer fleece & a nikefit storm running jacket just to keep everything boiling away)

    Standing Barbell behind Neck Press - 44lbs
    30/25/20/15/10

    Bench Dips
    30/25/20/15/10/5

    Decline close-grip bench press (using the 33lb plate)
    30/25/20/15/10

    Decline overhead tricep extension (keeping the plane of the body nice and straight and really letting the core engage as the plate just hovers an inch off the floor)

    25/20/15/10/5

    Decline ab crunch (using a 33lb plate) - sod the drop reps... i wanna six pack!

    25/25/25/25/25

    it's fair to say, I was grinning like a cheshire cat by the time I left the gym



    BUT

    no rest for the weak, so took my butt to TaeKwonDo

    The instructer's co-pilot must must have let him log a flightplan last night or this morning, 'cos he was on fire today...

    Started with a gentle warm up... not!! Lot's of foot work moves, knees up, heals up, bouncing on the spot, bouncing switch stances (southpaw to orthodox repeatedly), jumping jacks and then jumping jacks with punches, about 15mins no rest - then stretching for about 10mins - form patterns one move at a time, to his count perfect form and explosive power on each move or drop and give him 10 on the knuckles - and we did twenty patterns! by this time we're all f**ked and thinking wow at least it's time for the lesson to end, BUT no...

    he decided that the black belts hadn't been working hard enough, so he made everyone pair up with a partner one side of the dojang and do the following - while one of the pair sprint across the dojang and then starting doing an appropriate pattern for their grade, the "partner" at the other end of the dojang did knuckle pressups, and had to continue those until the partner doing the pattern had finished and sprinted back... then that person had to sprint across the dojang and do their pattern while the first partner did the pressups... this want on for a while, on the following rotation pressups, followed by sit ups, followed by squat thrusts, followed by burpees, followed by jumping jacks.

    Yes my friends it was 1.5hrs of pure brutality, i wonder what monday's 2hrs will be like?!?

    So that's it for today folks, i'm tired but really feel like i'd had an immense workout today, time for some chillin' with the family
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  6. Our "big" family game is rockband. Have it for the 360, even have the Ion drumset for it


  7. Nice workout bud
    I will work for supplements!

  8. Gwls's whatever works for you. I am a believer in counting calories all year long, losing body fat, or gaining muscle with a little bit added body fat. I just think I can control my results much better by knowing my body and how it responds.

    I think of what bodybuilders do to their body, as to what hackers due to computers.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    Gwls's whatever works for you. I am a believer in counting calories all year long, losing body fat, or gaining muscle with a little bit added body fat. I just think I can control my results much better by knowing my body and how it responds.

    I think of what bodybuilders do to their body, as to what hackers due to computers.
    Totally agree John, and I think my more relaxed approach (not that the family would agree) has really paid dividends BUT I am starting to feel like progress has slowed and I'm not sure what more training effort I can put in... Combine that with knowing that my diet could be further improved and it seems the logical next step. If nothing else but to have a clearer picture of where I am against maintenance kcals and my CHO intake

    Keep it coming John!

  10. CHO (carbohydrates) are very important for adding muscle(and some fat will come with that)

    and lowing them, and especially fat for,reducing body fat. That is how I like to do things currently.Protein generally needs to be raised while losing body fat. Its very individual though, some people like to keep protein at a gream , some 1.5 grams some 1.2, 1.4 etcccc

    I have tried the moderate fat, zero carb,low carb I could not train hard on the zero and extremely low carb. My log entails my nutrition
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  11. Drunk subbing the sh*T outta this haha...

    Gwls it is clear to all that your dedication to bodybuilding is on the higher scale of things. Your progress is amazing, and I will follow as it gets even better. That six pac isn't too far away from here on in just keep up the good work as you have and soon those pacs will be bursting outta your stomach. I love logs with pictures. Thank you for the contribution. Good luck in everything. And officially IN

  12. I havnt read through your whole log. But do you incorporate HIIT for cardio. It may be the edge your looking for. Great progress man. There a few of on on here that are going through some crazy transformations. Just keep on trucking man!!!

    RECOVERBRO



  13. Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    Drunk subbing the sh*T outta this haha...

    Gwls it is clear to all that your dedication to bodybuilding is on the higher scale of things. Your progress is amazing, and I will follow as it gets even better. That six pac isn't too far away from here on in just keep up the good work as you have and soon those pacs will be bursting outta your stomach. I love logs with pictures. Thank you for the contribution. Good luck in everything. And officially IN
    thanks mate, good to have you along!! I envy you even being able to drink, since I started this journey i've lost more and more desire for the stuff, I have a couple of beers now and i'm man down...

  14. Quote Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ View Post
    I havnt read through your whole log. But do you incorporate HIIT for cardio. It may be the edge your looking for. Great progress man. There a few of on on here that are going through some crazy transformations. Just keep on trucking man!!!
    thanks bro, no formal HIIT, something I have been considering though... the TaeKwonDo has a definite HIIT element to it, if you read my last two workout logs on the subject!
  15. Lightbulb Workout Update and some questions...


    Workout – Monday 6th September 2010

    Alright guys, brisk 2 mile walk to TaeKwonDo, just to get things moving in advance of training. I now believe the increased intensity of TKD at the moment could be down to a few factors a) a lot of people have taken the summer off training and he is pushing hard to get everyone back to a good level b) we have some of our Dojang competing in the world champs this coming weekend, so he's making ensure that they are pushed to their limits c) I am more unfit than I realised!!

    Okay I think it's really a combination of a) and b) BUT I would say he's definitely pushing the boundary line of my fitness level AND I am sweating like ze phat peeg, I don't know which one of the supps is driving this increased sweat fest, but I suspect it's a combination of the Lean Xtreme and the Green Tea Extract that I am taking pre-workouts

    I do two back to back 1 hour classes on a Monday, and the first hour was pretty much a repeat of Saturday's training so I won't bother repeating myself, we did exactly the same workout, same intensity MINUS the partner relay bit at the end, we overran the first lesson by 5 mins and if i'm honest I considered “throwing in the proverbial towel” and going home... BUT that's not what we do now is it?

    So I stayed, even though I was exhausted and aching all over, got a drink of water and just focused myself. The next hour began with the dreaded partner relay as a warm up exercise... so oh joy we didn't miss it! Form patterns next, (oh how I love repetition, but at least I should be well ready for the practical aspect of my exam in three weeks time) but at least it wasn't one move at a time in this lesson. Once completed, it was sparring kit on for some contact. I ended up in the “stationary” line, i.e. two parallel lines of fighters down the centre of the Dojang, one line moves after each round and one remains stationary, the moving line has an extra fighter, so in effect each person in the moving line gets at least a two minute break every now and then... the stationary line aren't soo lucky, we just fight a different person every two minutes until he's had enough. It's quite daunting when three of the people you have to fight at my lowly grade are going to the world champs this weekend, I held my own, but I think I think it's fair to say I got my a$$ kicked on more than three occasions

    So after my 2 hrs session turning into an almost 2.5hrs session, it was over and I took a less than brisk walk home, tired, aching and sore but with a huge on my face

    For those who haven't seen it yet, this is the form pattern I will have to perform in a few weeks time to get my next belt (although there is a theory exam as well which I also need to pass )



    Workout – 7th September 2010

    Well after last nights perseverance over pain session, I did expect to wake feeling like I had been run over by a train, but surprisingly, felt pretty good, I reckon the HGHPro is really starting to work it's magic for sure... by the time I got to bed last night, I couldn't actually sleep more than 6 hrs (less than ideal I know) but didn't feel it!!

    Pre-workout shake, SWOLE stack, LX and went to gym...

    Dumbbell Flye – 26lbs
    30/25/20/15/10

    Machine Reverse Flye - 33lbs
    30/25/20/15/10

    Incline Dumbbell Press – 33lbs
    30/25/20/15/10

    Low Cable Face Pull - 33lbs
    30/25/20/15/10

    Reverse Seated Crunch
    20/20/20/20/20

    Decline Ab Crunch
    20/20/20/20/20

    Overall, everything burned, and I feel like a complete and utter wimp due to the amount of weight actually being moved, but I am absolutely smoked at the end of each and every set – I have to keep reminding myself that this 6 – 8 weeks ISN't about the weight!

    Supps are still treating me well, and I think i'm starting to see some visual changes, but it could all be in my head, so i'm going to hold back from taking any progress pics until at least next week, i.e. the two week point. I will also take some interim measurements then as well.

    Questions &/or Opinions

    WRT to the supps specifically, I have now received the missing ingredient for my ECA stack, which of course was the “E” element, so that is ready and waiting. To be honest i'm wondering if I just let this 30days run it's course before adding this in? What do you guys think? I'm already sweating loads whenever I workout, ECA could be overkill at this point... views welcomed.

    Also I seem to be getting on so well without the ASGT, that I think i'm going to go without for a while. I do think am lacking a little in energy/enthusiasm in advance of training at the moment, but i'm not sure I'd benefit once there per se, since everything else seems to be working so well, again views welcome!

    And finally, I do think I'm going to extend the run on this, i've got plenty time to order another stack, so no final decision yet BUT I think it's very likely i'll run a full 8 weeks – some changes might be, drop the LX and add in ERASE (if Natty gets more stock into NP in time, since I missed the sale) for Cort Control and ECA for energy/fat burn/ weight loss AND possibly stay off the ASGT (and LG AP when it runs out) and maybe add in DAA in the form of E-Pharms TestForce - thoughts?

    and a pic for Pem courtesy of Ed



    If i'm boring anyone, let me know and i'll stop rambling as much

  16. Keep up the good work Gwls

    I think eight weeks is where Testopro is best of course any supplements eight weeks is better than four. It is recommended to take off a month usually every eight to twelve weeks
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  17. Not boring anyone brother. Great log, and man that is a beautiful picture. Not just sexy beautiful! Nom Nom Nom... ASGT is slightly hormonal in nature so I think taking off of it every once in a while is a good thing. I am currently off of mine and won't reintroduce it until I am in PCT. Your training in class sounds like the instructor is definitely trying to condition the guys for the upcoming competition. I often wonder why I don't see trainers using something like that conditioning program he has you all doing to get the fighter's gassed and then using a recording of a very loud crowd blairing over the speakers and send fresh guys in to attack the fighter while he is barely able to distinguish his coaches commands in all the noise. I think that is one of the biggest downfalls for a fighter. Not being trained to hear the corner in a very loud and overbearing surrounding.
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  18. Present and correct

  19. Back after being MIA for 5 days.
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  20. Still progressing bro! that's what it's about!

    Maybe late, but I'm in.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by edwitt View Post
    Present and correct
    Hello mate, thanks for coming along, hoping to make some good progress here!

  22. Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    Back after being MIA for 5 days.
    Missing Internet Action?

    Told you, stop hounding college girls on the chat lines and they won't cut you off DOM (and yes I do know your real name, so there's another TLA for you to work out, whilst MIA talking to your ISP about your DSL and whether or not switching to Fibre would be a better option for your HBR)

    You've got a lot of grovelling and at least 4 workouts to catch up on and that's just in this log!

  23. Quote Originally Posted by funkd0c View Post
    Still progressing bro! that's what it's about!

    Maybe late, but I'm in.
    No worries Funk, thanks for coming along and yep still making progress!!!

  24. Sorry guys busy couple of days, I'll post the last two days workouts tomorrow lunchtime - work is a bit of a 'mare at the mo!!! BUT I'm still getting the training in

  25. Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    Missing Internet Action?

    Told you, stop hounding college girls on the chat lines and they won't cut you off DOM (and yes I do know your real name, so there's another TLA for you to work out, whilst MIA talking to your ISP about your DSL and whether or not switching to Fibre would be a better option for your HBR)

    You've got a lot of grovelling and at least 4 workouts to catch up on and that's just in this log!
    I'd like to buy a vowel...
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    Sorry guys busy couple of days, I'll post the last two days workouts tomorrow lunchtime - work is a bit of a 'mare at the mo!!! BUT I'm still getting the training in
    I know how busy is
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    I'd like to buy a vowel...
    LOL -

    How about IOU?

  28. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Not boring anyone brother. Great log, and man that is a beautiful picture. Not just sexy beautiful! Nom Nom Nom... ASGT is slightly hormonal in nature so I think taking off of it every once in a while is a good thing. I am currently off of mine and won't reintroduce it until I am in PCT. Your training in class sounds like the instructor is definitely trying to condition the guys for the upcoming competition. I often wonder why I don't see trainers using something like that conditioning program he has you all doing to get the fighter's gassed and then using a recording of a very loud crowd blairing over the speakers and send fresh guys in to attack the fighter while he is barely able to distinguish his coaches commands in all the noise. I think that is one of the biggest downfalls for a fighter. Not being trained to hear the corner in a very loud and overbearing surrounding.
    thanks Kleen, and yes agree on the pic, perfectly put! The trainer has generated quite a few regional and national champions, so i guess he has a reputation to protect, he won't let us fight if he doesn't think we're ready and the same goes for grading progression. I have a lot of respect for him, firm and fair....
  29. Talking Workout Updates


    Workout – Wednesday 8th September 2010

    TaeKwonDo training, pretty much as before we're defnitely focusing on the guys going to the World Champs this weekend, it was only an hour class so after about 20 -25 minutes on warm-up (including some rather brutal leg stretches) we were in full sparring mode. The leg stretches are good BUT in the back of my head knowing that I had my legs session at the gym the next day, I knew this was going to be tough on my next morning's gym session... don't get me wrong I didn't slack off, it's just the painful realisation of knowing what awaits you!

    We did three variations on the leg stretch, all done with a partner
    • 1)back and heels against the wall, lift right leg up while maintaining profile against the wall into a front kick position (i.e. straight ahead, ball of foot as striking point, toes pulled back, no hip rotation allowed). Partner places foot i.e. ankle on shoulder, whilst adopting a sitting stance (feet parallel, torso straight, leg's apart) at first stage, partner's stance is quite wide and then as the instructor asks for the “lift” the partner draws their feet closer together which makes it easier for them and more stretching for the person being stretched... this continues until he asks for the leg to then be pushed up overhead for a count of 10, then hold for a count of 10, then lower for a count of ten – same process each leg and then partner's switch position
    • 2)Partners face each other sitting on the floor, legs apart. The person not being stretched places their feet on the inside of the others leg just above the knee joint, and using an overhand grip link arms and they pull the person being stretched towards them whilst pushing their feet against the persons legs. The person being stretched must maintain an upright torso, resisting being pulled over while their legs are slowly forced further apart – again switch positions
    • 3)Person being stretched sits on floor almost cross legged but soles of feet together and heels of feet pulled in as close to groin as possible, hands clasped around toes/to hold this position. This has the effect of raising the knees off the floor... yes you guessed it, the person not being stretched then applies their body weight to your knees for leverage – like forcing open a clam! Once in a suitable level of agony the person being stretched must resist the downward force of the partner and push against them, when told to stop pushing your knees will automatically drop lower then they were previously – this get's repeated a few times for good measure.

    With each exercise the intention to inflict a suitable amount of pain similar to what I can only imagine is something like childbirth!! and walking immediately afterwards is difficult enough, never mind fighting for the next 40 minutes

    Ok, so sparring kit on, and same fighter routine as Monday, somehow I ended up in the stationary line again? Had a really good session, if that doesn't count is cardio I don't know what does!! Took a few big hits, the ones where your ears are ringing despite wearing a headguard, but I got in more than my fair share of kicks to the ribs, so was pleased with that (we don't follow Olympic sparring rules, so no chest/torso guard and punches and kicks both count!)

    The instructor added a little something extra as normal of course, if during any two minute round, he spotted anyone throwing a single punch or kick without some sort of a follow up, we had to 20 burpees at the end of the round. Thankfully I only got done for this once, needless to say I made sure every following attack was a combination!!

    Workout – Thursday 9Th September 2010

    I woke up and wondered where i'd parked the horse from the night before, any cowboy including John Wayne would have nothing on my walking ability at 5.15am, fair to say I think the stretching may have worked! Anyway, Pre-workout shake, SWOLE stack, LX and off to gym we go...

    Barbell Step Up using Bench as a step – 44lbs
    30/25/20/15/10 (each side)

    I was dripping with sweat by set 3

    Single Leg Curl – 33lbs
    30/25/20/15/10 (each side)

    I tried it with 44lbs to start but only managed to get to 15 on the left leg, which is the one I started with so I dropped the weight and started again... by the end I think I should have persevered with the 44lbs, so i'll see what happens next week. Don't get me wrong a had a burn, but maybe not quite as much as I would have liked

    Dumbbell Bulgarian Split Squat – 22bs DB's
    30/25/20/15/10 (each side)

    Who invented these? They suck!! probably means they're really good for me, I keep losing my balance LOL, but finished them and any reps where I wasn't happy with form I redid.

    Back Extensions - 22lbs
    25/20/15/10/5

    Still haven't got all my lower back strength back yet following the injury a month ago, my form was perfect, but I think it was more like 18/7/14/6/15/10/5 to get it done, I just had to pause on the first two sets to complete them

    Incline Crunch
    25/20/15/10/5

    Ran out of time, so had to leave it there and head for work

    I've bought an Ab roller for home, so will probably start factoring that in between times, just to keep up ab work when I feel the urge! (also I secretly want to practice the DreamWeaver “wheel of death” move in the safety of my own home so that when I fall flat on my face, I don't have half the gym laughing at me!)



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  30. Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
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    I've bought an Ab roller for home, so will probably start factoring that in between times, just to keep up ab work when I feel the urge! (also I secretly want to practice the DreamWeaver “wheel of death” move in the safety of my own home so that when I fall flat on my face, I don't have half the gym laughing at me!)
    I hit the floor almost every time I do it, that's how you know it's your last rep... make sure there are no sharp objects in your pocket, like keys...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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