I think 1-AD converts to 1-testosterone and 4-AD converts to testosterone. I'm using propecia (finasteride), and finasteride inhibits testosterone conversion to dht, so maybe 4-ad + finasteride would be the safest option for me (i don't know the effects of a 5ar inhibitor like finasteride on 1-test).
I'll try 4AD + Finasteride.
Be careful with the finasteride dosage. Since it helps stop test from converting to DHT, you will have more estrogen because DHT acts as an antagonist of Test. Keep an eye out for estrogen related effects like gyno.
Anyway I'm runing finasteride since years ago and without any estrogen or gyno problems at all (and sometimes i run 5mg/day!!!)
From my personal experience, i think estrogen problems of finasteride are "over-rated".
Next month i'll start my cycle of 4-ad + finasteride (well, i'll really run 4-AD + Bold + HDrol + Finasteride).
I have done many cycles of bold + hdrol + finasteride in the past with good gains without any sides (no gyno, no hairloss), and since 4-ad seems to be mild on hair too (is testosterone related, not dht-based) i think 4-ad + bold + hdrol + finasteride must be an amazing stack!!!
So can I compare 4AD to inj. Testosteron? I read that 600mg 4AD equals ~100mg Test. So would I get equal results when I take 600mg 4AD everyday like 100mg Test Propoinat injected everyday?
A steroid, or more correctly and anabolic steroid, is an exogenous hormone.
Use of an anabolic steroid increases ones hormone levels to supra-physiological levels (i.e. levels one could not achieve naturally).
Most steroids are inactive when taken orally, thus they are injected. A few are altered (like dianabol) to make them active orally. One such method is my methylating the steroid. The methylation cause the steroid to pass through the liver mostly unharmed. This, however, makes it quite taxing on the liver.
A "pro-hormone" is something that is not an active hormone (like a steroid) but it is a precursor to a steroid. In other words, there are enzymes in your body that can convert the PH into an active hormone (steroid).
For example, 4-androstendiol will convert to testosterone (via an enzyme in the body).
1, 4 androstendiol will convert to boldenone (a steroid).
1 androstendiol (1-AD) will convert to 1-testosterone.
So, PHs (and PSs) in order to qualify as a "dietary supplement" must be taken orally (pursuant to the DSHEA). So you again are back to the issue of how potent this PH/PS will be, since it is not very "bioavailable".
People estimate that the PH/PSs are anywhere from 5-40% bioavailable. Some individuals have injected these (illegally) in which case you'd see results similar to various illegal anabolic compounds.
So, the biggest difference between PHs (and especially PSs) and illegal anabolic compounds is the delivery mechanism.
Hope this helps.
I have a question.Can I stack 4-AD with NRGX-Labs Tren 13-Ethyl?I found a lot off different statements and I am little confused.Please,give me some unswers...Thank you
which is more effective, the single dose of 4-ad rd tabs, or double dose of 4-ad utt 120ml?
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Sorry to beat a dead horse here, but....if I'm 33, never tried anything like this before and there is absolutely no MPB on either side of my families, a straight up exactly as directions say pro anabolic kit once only will almost certainly be totally safe for the amazingly sweet flowing locks on my dome, yeah?
Here's my plan:
next four weeks- five day split w/ heavy low rep sets. Continue to eat (95% clean) like a madman. ZMA, HMB, and test booster. Question: should I drop creatine at any point? I've read that starting it back up again during PCT is good for keeping gains?
Then do pro anabolic kit- as directed
PCT add a natty test boost...
Is that too much test boosting?
You there at all?Originally Posted by jjmath
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I'm gonna start pro anabolic kit. Should I start it pre workout Monday morning or off day Sunday to assess tolerance?
It's up to you whether or not you want to run creatine on cycle or just pct. either way is fine.Originally Posted by jjmath
And no it's not too much test boosting. You'll be good.
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