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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i enjoyed pink magic....it wasn't the best but it wasn't terrible, only thing i wasn't a fan of was the price
    Yea me too. I wonder how a second run would of compared to the first.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Yea me too. I wonder how a second run would of compared to the first.

    they don't still make it do they? i was thinking of trying AI sports masscularia product since that i believe was the "novel" ingredient in pink magic but haven't gotten around to it
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    1AD and 6OXO are not dietary ingredients. Remove the steroids from the line up and PA has been a flop and not to mentionn the Urosolic scam, reminds me of that company that released the myostatin...

    We've funded 10 university studies on our products which is unheard of in our industry...
    Failure? I don't see how. Not one other company has the track record for good products that pa has. The dietary ingredient bs aside, 1AD and 6OXO were 2 of the greatest of their kind. You also still neglect to mention his introduction of DAA to the supplement game. That is another supplement everyone and their mother. (Yourself included) is currently cashing in on. I will agree ursobolic wasn't great but that was mostly a solubility issue of the original form, not a ****ty ingredient. I can tell you from experience there is a massive difference between ursobolic and ur-spray. I don't think I have ever seen a negative review of the sprays

    1AD
    6OXO
    1,3
    DAA
    Ursolic Acid

    I dare you to find one other company who can beat that resume.

  4. Ursolic Acid and Pump Spray are definitely my staples.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    You forgot to mention DAA. Also, Ursolic acid has been awesome in the sprays.I like USPlabs despite what I feel is at time ridiculous advertising although that has gotten better. I really liked c20, jack3d micro, supercissuss and some others and have purchased products of yours since the beginning. I also appreciate the funding for DMAA studies and putting up a fight there.However, there is no way anyone could possibly undermind the accomplishments and products PA has brought to the table. He changed the game with 1AD, 6OXO, 1,3, DAA, and soon Ursolic Acid. If you look most of his products he had all the new mainstream ingredients years before his competitors ever did and all of his products have been quality.Just saying.
    Also forgot the "introduction" of COP as a solo ingredient at higher doses.And yes, I know that MT had it before but it was in a kitchen sink formula product and very underdosed.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post

    they don't still make it do they? i was thinking of trying AI sports masscularia product since that i believe was the "novel" ingredient in pink magic but haven't gotten around to it
    Nah I don't think so but you can find it out there but the price is still to high for me to even consider it again. You're right, AI Sports masscularia is the ingredient based on pink magic but from what I've read it wasn't what it seemed. Hmmm maybe if I find it for about $20 per bottle ill try it
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    Nah I don't think so but you can find it out there but the price is still to high for me to even consider it again. You're right, AI Sports masscularia is the ingredient based on pink magic but from what I've read it wasn't what it seemed. Hmmm maybe if I find it for about $20 per bottle ill try it
    I feel like I heard good things about massularia....

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post

    I feel like I heard good things about massularia....
    To me it felt just when it came out. Say within the first 3 weeks or so. There was no buzz at all or any recommendation on adding it to anything.
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  9. The whole situation with ursolic acid was that PA was onto something while supplementing with ursolic acid and noticed some really nice anti-catabolic effects and even some leaning out when he was kinda slacking, so he figured that he'd compile the proper data to produce a good supplement. Ursolic acid's oral bioavailability seemed to be an issue as far as user's having to really experiment with high doses to get results that PA was seeing. Many people do respond well to the caps, but PA decided to find other ways to improve the delivery and he sure as hell hit the nail on the head, judging by the overwhelming positive feedback and I could not find one negative remark about the entire product.

    I say that ursolic acid is a success. Now Prototype is completely out of stock.
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  10. ^^^luckily I got my bottles a couple weeks ago
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  11. PA brought/popularized:

    1,3D
    DAA
    COP
    Ursolic Acid

    USPLabs brought/popularized:

    Cissus
    Berberine
    Mucuna/L-dopa
    Rauwolscine


    Kudos to both

  12. Im pumped to see what Cooper brings and popularizes
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    PA brought - popularized:
    1,3D
    DAA
    COP
    Ursolic Acid

    USPLabs brought/popularized:

    Cissus
    Berberine
    Mucuna/L-dopa
    Rauwolscine


    Kudos to both
    Nice breakdown. About time some brought some objectivity to the discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Im pumped to see what Cooper brings and popularizes
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    PA brought/popularized:

    1,3D
    DAA
    COP
    Ursolic Acid

    USPLabs brought/popularized:

    Cissus
    Berberine
    Mucuna/L-dopa
    Rauwolscine


    Kudos to both
    Amen. I like both companies and both deserve credit. Just wanted to make a point that PA is far from a "failure" or one hit wonder

  15. Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    ^^^luckily I got my bottles a couple weeks ago
    I knew I was getting some extra bucks for my bday (3-11) and as I was stoked to add (2) 2-packs of UR Spray, it said 'out of stock'. So, I went to get the 3-pack off 11KT, but it was out of stock, so I am using the extra funds to run 1000 mg of phosphatydilserine (from 10 grams of Serinaid 20%) per day for 8 weeks and 400mg of ubiquinol & 400mg ubiquinone per day for 8 weeks. I am getting the D-Spray & Pr Spray pack to replace Androdrive that I absolutely was bummed out for weeks that the FDA raided PP. I like the looks of D-Serine, but there's just not enough in-depth feedback from reviewers/loggers. I like Truthornothings results from d-serine, but I need more questions answered...
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Amen. I like both companies and both deserve credit. Just wanted to make a point that PA is far from a "failure" or one hit wonder
    PA had this nitric oxide product called '1-NO' and it was a combination of some forms of ornithine and histidine (I think hcl and ethyl ester?). Man, I was on a low carb diet at the time and I took it preworkout for the first time and after warming up with 4 sets of bodyweight pullups, I had 3 gym acquaintences come up to me and ask me WTF I was taking. I was so pumped from the pullups that my biceps were going to rip my skin in half and I actually had to keep going from push : pull, in order to allow the swelling to atleast go from painful to insane.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    PA brought/popularized:

    1,3D
    DAA
    COP
    Ursolic Acid

    USPLabs brought/popularized:

    Cissus
    Berberine
    Mucuna/L-dopa
    Rauwolscine


    Kudos to both
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  18. Mucuna L-Dopa was around a long time btw
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    Mucuna L-Dopa was around a long time btw
    /popularized.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    /popularized.

    It had pretty high popularity in the anti-aging industry.

    And bb'ers been using it with their GH for 20 years
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  21. Same with Rauwolscine. Avant brought that out in '04 (HEAT) and Matt Pearson has been putting it into products since then.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    PA brought/popularized:

    1,3D
    DAA
    COP
    Ursolic Acid

    USPLabs brought/popularized:

    Cissus
    Berberine
    Mucuna/L-dopa
    Rauwolscine


    Kudos to both

    thats argueable...he may have brought it to the market but he hardly popularized it, how many millions of ppl didn't know what it was until usplabs actually did popularize it

    pa can get credit for releasing it, but did nothing with it
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  23. BB/sports nutrition popularization of compositions is relative to itself in terms of 20 years

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    thats argueable...he may have brought it to the market but he hardly popularized it, how many millions of ppl didn't know what it was until usplabs actually did popularize it

    pa can get credit for releasing it, but did nothing with it
    I admit that I am not a good marketer. I dont invest in marketing I invest in R and D. And I dont have the stomach to do what it takes to popularize things with the masses
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  25. Honestly I don't see how ANYONE could argue against what PA has brought to the industry though. He might be the most innovative mind in the game over the last decade.

    Forget popularized, most of that has been marketing. If you're talking about people who brought new novel game changing ingredients, the conversation has to start with PA in the mix. Arguing otherwise is being intellectually dishonest.

    And that isn't a knock at what USP labs has done or their products, merely that I don't see how ANYONE could come to the conclusion that PA hasn't significantly influenced products maybe to a degree more than anyone else.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    I don't see how ANYONE could come to the conclusion that PA hasn't significantly influenced products maybe to a degree more than anyone else.
    This is truly the bottom line.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Honestly I don't see how ANYONE could argue against what PA has brought to the industry though. He might be the most innovative mind in the game over the last decade.

    Forget popularized, most of that has been marketing. If you're talking about people who brought new novel game changing ingredients, the conversation has to start with PA in the mix. Arguing otherwise is being intellectually dishonest.

    And that isn't a knock at what USP labs has done or their products, merely that I don't see how ANYONE could come to the conclusion that PA hasn't significantly influenced products maybe to a degree more than anyone else.
    i agree...whats he's brought to the supplement world as a "chemist" is unquestioned

    thats when my business backround takes over and i'm thinking well i spent all the time and energy into the substance, then it's time to get it out to the largest audience possible
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  28. There's one major difference in it of the way PA's companies are marketed and the way USP Labs is marketed, that I've noticed.
    Inner Circle (USP's 'early release' and beta efforts) vs. Prototype Nutrition (PA's beta products, etc) :
    1. Prototype Nutrition provides new products and the writeup consists of a short, straight-forward description of the ingredients efficacy, as found in research studies. Citations are provided to back the statements.
    2. The Inner Circle writeup has a multiple page storyline of something almost adventurous of a quest for just the right extract. This is followed by a timeline of how you should expect to feel (Day 11 - "Your muscles will swell like blimps and your concentration will hit redline!"). And in the end, it usually says that you can either stay on the product and keep making gains, or stop taking it and feel 'feeble' again. Citations are given for applications and efficacy of the herbs used.

    The marketing doesn't effect the product efficacy, as I have had good results with some and great results with a few (Camphibolic was a staple).
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post

    thats when my business backround takes over and i'm thinking well i spent all the time and energy into the substance, then it's time to get it out to the largest audience possible
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    I dont have the stomach to do what it takes to popularize things with the masses...
    There you go monkey boy
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