[AGELESS]

No sir I have not...you have a PM

Thanks

[THETEST]

Ageless - as promised, a couple Pics - somewhere in the 6% body fat. At 49, I will be able to compete better next year in a Grand Masters. Competed last weekend, in 3 weeks going for one more show.

[PSBigJoey]

Suspect I can't say anything that hasn't already been said, Ageless. Nice work - keep shattering the image of what 60+ has to be!

[AGELESS]

THETEST...you look great I see lots of HARD work...but...what happened to your face?? Can you repost it??


BIG JOEY - Thanks - its HARD to believe you are 54 - keep up the HARD work.

I know its HARD to believe I could use the word HARD that much...I just saw fitnfirms last pictures....Talk about HARD...she has a great HARD body.

[THETEST]

I happen to sneeze during each photo - which keeps me anonimous lol

[Supa Freek 420]

Inspirational pics. I hope to be in that kind of shape when I reach that benchmark.

[AGELESS]

WOW..10,000 views...Thanks to ALL...and thanks for the support....jim

[Jayhawkk]

I wish I was in this kind of shape at any point in my life

[shoestring]

You look great!! This is what HRT should look like!!

[Beatmaster]

wow, i took time off from this board for awhile, back, and this tread is still alive....... ageless what have you done again... hehe

it's funny what a picture can do... but seriously, keep it up men!!!

[THETEST]

Ageless - we need to get you on stage - you would kick butt as an Ultra Grand Master!

[PSBigJoey]

Originally Posted by THETEST

Ageless - we need to get you on stage - you would kick butt as an Ultra Grand Master!

I second that, Ageless. It's inspiring to a lot of guys who would otherwise say "I'm too old to get into shape"....

Besides, someone has to show the pups that it's not over at 35.

[sidnee]

Ageless, would like to ask you some questions, please contact me.

[AGELESS]

Originally Posted by sidnee

Ageless, would like to ask you some questions, please contact me.

Sidnee -

I have no idea who you are or how to contact you.

The proper procedure is to post your questions on this board...after you've read all the stickies...but if you post here or on the proper boards in general..then we can all learn from your questions.

If your questions are pertaining to bodybuilding - then you need to post in the steriod forum...HRT is what it is...HORMONE REPLACEMENT THERAPY.

Yes I am on HRT...yes I am a bodybuilder.

My HRT gives me a better quality of life...pushing iron from point "A" to point "B" will build my body.

My wife says I look good..but I cant even open a pickle jar...

AGELESS

[THETEST]

HRT - can be a lot of things - I believe in it, and have heard of HGH and natural Test as well as others (IGF-1), to bring up hormone levels that naturally decrease with age. A blood test can tell you at any age if you are in the normal range - though they all seem to have different definitions of normal. Roughly total Test should be at least 500, but the range goes up to 1200 when you are in your 20s and moves toward 800 are you get into your 50s and 60s, though it is very common for it to dip below the 500 level, and experience effects of low libido, and muscle loss, depression, etc. So HRT under a doctors care helps you get to the hormone levels you need to be able to feel good - and if you take good care of your self, weight training exercise, and clean diet - you can have the body of someone much younger - and have the energy to go with it. The studies I have read always say at the end - "we do not know the long term effects", so it is not without risk - but if you stay within normal healthy ranges, I think it is a great thing to do. The folks that abuse these hormones - dirving total test up over 4000 when they are in their 20s and need not assistance over the 1200 mark grow into freaks - but at a risk of addiction and other side effects and many feel that there are sever dangers to organ function. HRT is use not abuse - some will argue that there is a reason why natural hormones decrease with age - and it should not be messed with. I disagree.

[sidnee]

Ok,, Ageless, I am 45, professional trainer for 21 yrs.and do HRT. I have several clients around your age, your conditioning is awesome,I would like to know what your HRT consists of ?

[PSBigJoey]

Originally Posted by THETEST

A blood test can tell you at any age if you are in the normal range - though they all seem to have different definitions of normal.

Gotta put in my 2 cents' worth. I'm also on HRT, and have been for about 3 years now. It's made a huge difference in the way I feel. The psychological impact has been far more profound than the physical side effects (better ability to synthesize proteins {build muscle} and higher metabolic rate {lose fat}).

Regarding the quote: The reference ranges that TEST mentions aren't really normal at all - they are typical - a huge difference. Let me put it another way....if we looked at age the way we looked at reference ranges, normal for 90 would be dead. Hmmmmm.....

[THETEST]

PS Big Joey - Sorry about using the term "Normal range" it came from use by the labs doing blood tests. My research show that the ranges are not what most people of those ages experience - but I have not found alot of reasonable results from actual tests of a representative population. My experience - you start feeling different under 500. But that is different for everyone, certainly under 300 and you feel the difference. It is only hard to detect because it comes on so slow - folks write it off as part of getting old. I would guess that are large percent - of folks in their mid 40s on up start hitting under 500, or lower - so a range from 300-800 tells you very little since most of us are not luck enough to ride in the 800-1200 range without some help.