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This is true... the fact is, if you had methylated tren... you'd be dosing in micrograms and it would still be near fatal... Tren is great for an injectable, but when it comes to the oral world, it's best left out. Even methoxy bonded "tren" precursors are liver damaging to a high extent.fina is incredibly anabolic and androgenic on a mg per mg basis. you are getting a ton of bang per mg in other words.
it has pronounced effects on aldosterone, t3 levels, seratonin levels, the HPTA, and sebaceous glands. in other words, its the ****. its the gear of the gods
Says who?This is true... the fact is, if you had methylated tren... you'd be dosing in micrograms and it would still be near fatal... Tren is great for an injectable, but when it comes to the oral world, it's best left out. Even methoxy bonded "tren" precursors are liver damaging to a high extent.
What do you mean says who??? on what topic?? specifically?Says who?
a methoxy bond on a triene based progestin is liver damaging... maybe I shouldnt have said high extent, but I'll return in a sec to this thread with some info.About the methoxy tren
1- Anabolic dose of Metribolone is 1mg. And it will make you a yellow cadaver after a few weeks of continuous use.This is true... the fact is, if you had methylated tren... you'd be dosing in micrograms and it would still be near fatal... Tren is great for an injectable, but when it comes to the oral world, it's best left out. Even methoxy bonded "tren" precursors are liver damaging to a high extent.
I'm looking for the actual studies themselves on a 'certain "tren" product'. I will continue looking, but yes the methoxy bond at that is 'damaging' to the liver.1- Anabolic dose of Metribolone is 1mg. And it will make you a yellow cadaver after a few weeks of continuous use.
2- Trenbolone has a slight toxicity, as do ALL anabolic steroids. That's right they are are acutely toxic. Due to the high androgenic ratio, it is more toxic than test, ect.
3- Methoxy Tren is not a tren precursor. It is an active steroid. You'd have a better chance splitting the legs of a celebate than splitting the H3C-O bond. Is your information on it's toxicity based on substantial data, or mere hearsay? I was under the impression that due to the fact that it's much more closely related to trenbase/tren ace than methyltren (look at bond angles) it wasn't so bad on liver values.
Me still love you long time. I'm just not in 100% agreement with what's been said.
hm perhaps finigenx?Bah.. I'm a failure, I cannot find the info I wanted, but it was directed at one particular supp and it's chemical structure... not necessarrily a TRUE tren precursor (as that does NOT exist, despite what people tell you).... so I will have to agree to disagree I guess, cuz I can't prove my point :sad:
or MDiene?hm perhaps finigenx?
or perhaps not... *Edited for my convenience *or MDiene?
I don't think there are any studied on mega trn. No one even know if it related to tren at all..I'm looking for the actual studies themselves on a 'certain "tren" product'. I will continue looking, but yes the methoxy bond at that is 'damaging' to the liver.
Did I once mention mega trn bro??I don't think there are any studied on mega trn. No one even know if it related to tren at all..
Uh-oh, looks like somebody assumed something. We all know what happens when you assume. :lol:Did I once mention mega trn bro??
No, what?Uh-oh, looks like somebody assumed something. We all know what happens when you assume. :lol:
Trogdor burninates your village!No, what?
AND the peasants....Trogdor burninates your village!
and let's not even discuss those thatched roof cottages.AND the peasants....
That's the studies I was looking for bro... this is why I made such a fuss about it in the methyl vs methoxy conversation we had a while back.RA or sinner or anyone have any studies or anything showing that the methoxy bond causes the liver damage?
Consider them burned. Wanna know why?? "CUZ HES TROGDOOOORRRR" heh... don't call me emo cuz I watched it. LOLand let's not even discuss those thatched roof cottages.
Going off the original Methoxy-TRN writeup ny ALRI, they make a point to say that it's less toxic than a methyl.RA or sinner or anyone have any studies or anything showing that the methoxy bond causes the liver damage?
People exaggerate methyl toxicity vs normal liver damaging variants...Going off the original Methoxy-TRN writeup ny ALRI, they make a point to say that it's less toxic than a methyl.
As it should, the ether is (1) not alkyl (2) not on the 17a carbon.
I agreePeople exaggerate methyl toxicity vs normal liver damaging variants...
It is a clone in that it is an attempt to replicate Methoxy TRN. From what I've gathered, it was not a very successful attempt.anyone have an answer to my ?
Agreed.. I believe the "true" chem nature of it is comparable in terms of effects though.It is a clone in that it is an attempt to replicate Methoxy TRN. From what I've gathered, it was not a very successful attempt.
Most superdrol clones are an attempt to replicate Superdrol; however, the lot of them contain a high degree of oxymetholone and other not as fun stuff.
Haven't tried Kilo's trenadrol. I hear it's decent.Agreed.. I believe the "true" chem nature of it is comparable in terms of effects though.
As far as superdrol goes.. well... lol what a joke.
eh, KS's Tren is worth a shot, it's not 'uber potent'... but pfft, I liked it for the most part, had some high BP, but other than that, good solid run (did it solo for the most part).Haven't tried Kilo's trenadrol. I hear it's decent.
Superdrol, yeah. It's freaking headache hearing results ranging from "very mild" to "very harsh" to "worse than M1T". But that's neither here nor there.
I hear ya, but it's also hard to come out with more and more innovation. The innovative companies are just pulling names off a list (because you damn well know they've known how to make these compounds for the past several years), doing a little research, capping and selling.eh, KS's Tren is worth a shot, it's not 'uber potent'... but pfft, I liked it for the most part, had some high BP, but other than that, good solid run (did it solo for the most part).
err.. I've only ran SNS's superdrol and it was harsh, but hey. I'm waiting for a 7th gen PH to come out and rock our socks off... this crap available is getting old quick.. to many knock offs, not enough innovation.
ya... well.. there's options that haven't been explored... well, I shouldn't say explored, but options that haven't been utilized that really need to be to have any progress made in this industry... and on the flipside, there's to many people to stubborn to stray outside of what's "tried and true"... I love how everything, no matter how much it's claiming not to be, is ran by money. :head:I hear ya, but it's also hard to come out with more and more innovation. The innovative companies are just pulling names off a list (because you damn well know they've known how to make these compounds for the past several years), doing a little research, capping and selling.
I've ran SNS's as well. It was kinda rough.
uh oh, watch it with that word :smite:lol, that's capitalism