Hey does anyone know when to take Phera-plex? As in with food in the morning and evening or without food..... I can't seem to find information regarding that
^^^usually take everything w/ a Fat like peanut butter for better bioavaliability
It does matter.Either way. It doesn't seem to matter.
It does matter.
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Consume PP with FOOD a lipid/fatty small meal.
I'm a rep for AXCan you provide proof of this?
Please do. I'm very curious about it as I've never seen any proof that taking an oral steroid would be effected by consuming food with the exception of Grapefruit juice.I'm a rep for AX
If that's not enough I will get the documents right now.
So you've done multiple cycles?I've personally never seen a difference taking it with or without food.
They're lipid soluable....better absorbed with a fatty(lipid) meal.Please do. I'm very curious about it as I've never seen any proof that taking an oral steroid would be effected by consuming food with the exception of Grapefruit juice.
Yes.So you've done multiple cycles?
So you have data showing better absorbtion rate when taken with a fatty meal then not? Not trying to be a dick, I'm just very curious about this.They're lipid soluable....better absorbed with a fatty(lipid) meal.
This is my understanding as well.They're lipid soluable....better absorbed with a fatty(lipid) meal.
ive heard a few things about grapefruit juice....ive read that grapefruit juice helps too...ummm i forget where will find and post...
The answer is very little if any. Again, Grapefruit acts by inhibiting the CYP3A4 enzyme. All of the 17-alkylated AAS are virtually untouched by the CYP3A4 enzyme so grapefruit will have no effect on them. However absorption might be improved by grapefruit in unalkylated orals such as primobolan, testosterone undecanoate and many unalkylated prohormones such as Orastan.i do not know exactly how much of the PH is going to be digested extra with the juice added
I apologize for restarting such an old thread but would a tablespoon of flaxseed oil do the trick as well?I take it (same with superdrol) with a serving of olive oil. and a snack
I imagine so. IMO taking pp with fatty meal > taking pp with meal > taking pp with juice > taking pp on empty stomach > not taking pp :lol:I apologize for restarting such an old thread but would a tablespoon of flaxseed oil do the trick as well?
LOL..well said bro..actually, January will be my first PP cycle but i got 4 bottles in total before it disappeared..should do me for the next few years!!:woohoo:I imagine so. IMO taking pp with fatty meal > taking pp with meal > taking pp with juice > taking pp on empty stomach > not taking pp :lol:
you have AX pheraplex or knock off? If youre like me then youll really love phera it really is a good gainer in all areas and low sides if any.LOL..well said bro..actually, January will be my first PP cycle but i got 4 bottles in total before it disappeared..should do me for the next few years!!:woohoo:
i have 4 genuine AX 60 cap bottles that all expire in Feb. '09. i plan on vacuum sealing the three i don't use up in January and storing them in my fridge to extend shelf life. If the cycle works for me in the new year, i will also probably try to pick up a couple bottles of the knock-offs (preferably GL's Phera-Max) before they disappear too.you have AX pheraplex or knock off? If youre like me then youll really love phera it really is a good gainer in all areas and low sides if any.
have you done any other OTC oral steriods? Im just wondering because you are stocking up on phera but you have yet to cycle it....I cant find any decent priced AX phera so i go with GL's pmax.i have 4 genuine AX 60 cap bottles that all expire in Feb. '09. i plan on vacuum sealing the three i don't use up in January and storing them in my fridge to extend shelf life. If the cycle works for me in the new year, i will also probably try to pick up a couple bottles of the knock-offs (preferably GL's Phera-Max) before they disappear too.
Nope, this will be the first..closest i've come in the past is a standalone 1-AD cycle last July..i've done the real thing before and know how to run a proper post cycle therapy so it's all good..i stocked up on Phera-plex because it was disappearing and figured if i didn't like it, i could always sell it...i almost never see any negative comments about it so i have high hopes and will likely pick up some Phera-Max in the New Year..cheers.have you done any other OTC oral steriods? Im just wondering because you are stocking up on phera but you have yet to cycle it....I cant find any decent priced AX phera so i go with GL's pmax.
Phera-max is an Ergomax LMG clone, just fyii will also probably try to pick up a couple bottles of the knock-offs (preferably GL's Phera-Max) before they disappear too.
Really?!..i was sure it was a Phera-plex clone..i will have to investigate..thanks bro.Phera-max is an Ergomax LMG clone, just fyi
Are you absolutely sure about that? According to the labels Phera-max is the exact same compound as PP which is different from Ergomax. So it's either fraudulent advertising or you're dead wrong. Which is it?Phera-max is an Ergomax LMG clone, just fyi
Uhhh are you sure? Im pretty sure its not. check your info again. phera max - phera plex see?Phera-max is an Ergomax LMG clone, just fyi
Well I have a bottle of phera-max and phera-plex right in front of me and the main ingredient on each is 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol. I also have a bottle of Ergomax in front of me and the main ingredient is 17-methyl-delta-2-etioallocholane. IF the label claims are accurate there is no question that phera-max is essentially the same thing as PP (+5mg) and I sure as hell hope it is b/c I stocked up on it.Uhhh are you sure? Im pretty sure its not. check your info again. phera max - phera plex see?
That's my thought as well. However, I actually responded to this thread b/c I've seen other threads in which others made similar assertions ("phera-max is really ergomax") and were never challenged.actually i think sonicology doesnt really have his facts str8.
wow that would change things a bit if it came out true:think:That's my thought as well. However, I actually responded to this thread b/c I've seen other threads in which others made similar assertions ("phera-max is really ergomax") and were never challenged.
I'm dissapointed, I thought people on AM were better informed than this. Phera-plex and Ergomax are isomers of the same compound, hence they can both be written the same way so it's not fraudulent advertising (although the name is misleading - you're noticing the PHERA-max when you should be noticing phera-MAX).Are you absolutely sure about that? According to the labels Phera-max is the exact same compound as PP which is different from Ergomax. So it's either fraudulent advertising or you're dead wrong. Which is it?
WOW! thanks alot for the link. I was really just egging you on to post a stronger post on this topic. :stick:I'm dissapointed, I thought people on AM were better informed than this. Phera-plex and Ergomax are isomers of the same compound, hence they can both be written the same way so it's not fraudulent advertising (although the name is misleading - you're noticing the PHERA-max when you should be noticing phera-MAX).
Phera-plex is pure 5a 2-ene isomer, whilst Ergomax is a mix of the 5a/5b 2-ene and 5a/5b 3-ene isomers. SNS Methyl-plex was close to phera-plex being 80% 5a 2-ene and 20% 5b 2-ene, whilst Pherabol was an exact Phera-plex clone at 100% 5a 2-ene. Phera-max is Ergomax (contains all isomers), consult this thread for further information
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/generic-labz/43678-cross-reference-pheramax.html#post507929
lol no worries bro, the reason I know about this is because I made the same mistake as you guys and thought phera-max was phera-plex. As I already said the name is a bit misleading, and the fact they chose DS's nomenclature for PP over ALRI's nomenclature for Ergomax makes it doubly so.btw my apologies. reps for you.
Its obvious as well because all of there clones are ALRI's products, hence they have no superdrol clone.lol no worries bro, the reason I know about this is because I made the same mistake as you guys and thought phera-max was phera-plex. As I already said the name is a bit misleading, and the fact they chose DS's nomenclature for PP over ALRI's nomenclature for Ergomax makes it doubly so.
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