I remember all the buzz, aka Forerunner Labsl....but since SARMS came out it's gone silent lol
They still around?
They still around?
Really?As far as we know, Forerunner Labs and AMS are re-vamping their line ups. Should be ready and out within the next two weeks.
BSL does have 1-DHEA (Chosen 1) and 4-DHEA (Brutal 4ce) but there's a ton of companies producing products.Really?
I think I just noticed Blackstone Labs does some products like this!
I don't see much in terms of reviews tho, and information compared to how well SARMS have taken off.
Andros are still around and very effective at that. The problem is that many are horribly underdosed (literally almost every brand out requires multiple bottles of each compound for a single effective run).Iron mag labs still has andros and just came out with a new one that's similar to epiandro, but only 1 step conversion. I just bought some andro from primeval labs. And andro the giant and super mandro are very popular.
Any idea when that OL release will be happening? I don't wanna have to buy another underdosed bottle for this run if I can grab OL before I run outBSL does have 1-DHEA (Chosen 1) and 4-DHEA (Brutal 4ce) but there's a ton of companies producing products.
Primeval is making everything - plus they have Tri-Andro (the strongest dosed tri-andro product).
Olympus labs is about to release an Andro Line (which we may or may not be running an exclusive on ).
On top of that, we carry XCEL's new products.
Raw Anabolics has a raw anabolic kit that we carry.
Innovative Labs has Monster Plexx (a quintiple DHEA stack).
As well as others, that we carry right on the site. DHEA has an incredible amount of information and studies, respectively, the information is all out there.
We're releasing a compound database that breaks down each and every compound and the pertaining products.
We're hoping within 2-3 weeks!Any idea when that OL release will be happening? I don't wanna have to buy another underdosed bottle for this run if I can grab OL before I run out
Dhea derivatives are not methylated so they are much less liver toxic than other methylated designers. They are still prohormones and side effects like hair shedding and increased prostate weight are still a possibility. Dhea derivatives are the only prohormones still legal in the us (except for a few progestins that are not worth taking or even talking about they suck so bad) so you will be seeing a bunch of these products flood the market soon.Great responses, thank you everyone.
They're a pain to import, are they safe side wise? No hair loss?
I thought I read ages ago, they have much less sides and produce good gains. It's definitely confusing between all the products.
The most effect DHEAs are very expensive. I had one quoted to make, not sell, make,....at $80 a bottle for an effective dose for 30 days.Andros are still around and very effective at that. The problem is that many are horribly underdosed (literally almost every brand out requires multiple bottles of each compound for a single effective run).
Fortunately, super mandro and Andro the giant are the full 300mg of actives plus absorption enhancers in each bottle. We also have androvar which has full effective doses of epiandro.
I prefer properly dosed andros over Sarms any day of the week.
They are indeed very expensive to manufacture, and are all patented by HiTech. If you do want one manufactured for you legally, you can get one at a much more affordable rate.The most effect DHEAs are very expensive. I had one quoted to make, not sell, make,....at $80 a bottle for an effective dose for 30 days.
so far through 10 logs here on AM, the only side effect we've heard of is slight lethargy.I thought they were a little more side free! My mate doesn't wanna risk hair loss, told him to stick to Osta ��
Dzine an msten aren't controlled substances.
They are however illegal to sell per dshea requirements.
Just a suggestion, take it for what you will, but you guys are using some awfully large esters in your formula for the DHEA compounds. For example, you've got Decanoate attached as the ester for your 1AD product. So, at 75mg of 1AD that leaves you with only 47mg of 1AD over all because of the large size of the Decanoate ester.They are indeed very expensive to manufacture, and are all patented by HiTech. If you do want one manufactured for you legally, you can get one at a much more affordable rate.
The multiple delivery systems we offer (SEDDS/Cyclosome/etc) also make dosing of these compounds MUCH more affordable.
That's what I'm working on atm, actually. I just want to make sure it has every detail the user needs to know before they start the cycle, including the pros, and cons.pogue those priceplow write ups are excellent. Could you do one for Decabolin?
Can you tell me where you got this information? Are you basing it on what sides of nandrolone in general or do you know something specific about NorDHEA itself?One of the concerns I have about NorDHEA is its impact on HDL, HCT and micro vascular degradation. The information I have looked at so far has been conflicting. If you could cover some of this it would be great
To be perfectly honest, there is no 100% sure way to know. Since we've only had 1 single study on one of the DHEA based PHs, a lot of it is going to be speculation based off that and all the other data on nandrolone and it's previous nor-dione and nor-diol precursors. Just like all other AAS, nandrolone has its pros and cons, but you'll just have to wait for the article to come out to read the full breakdown.No sorry Nandrolone. I did not want to de-rail the thread by talking about Nandrolone so I am assuming that as it is the target hormone side effects would be similar for the NorDHEA. Is this assumption correct?
we utilize long esters, short esters, and no esters whatsoever across various products.Just a suggestion, take it for what you will, but you guys are using some awfully large esters in your formula for the DHEA compounds. For example, you've got Decanoate attached as the ester for your 1AD product. So, at 75mg of 1AD that leaves you with only 47mg of 1AD over all because of the large size of the Decanoate ester.
If you would switch it to acetate or propionate you would have much more of the overall hormone left over all and get more into your system -- regardless of the delivery system you use. The UTA study on 1DHEA used 330mg a day and had no special delivery system at all and got great results with the base hormone and grapefruit extract.
Just a suggestion, take it for what you will, but you guys are using some awfully large esters in your formula for the DHEA compounds. For example, you've got Decanoate attached as the ester for your 1AD product. So, at 75mg of 1AD that leaves you with only 47mg of 1AD over all because of the large size of the Decanoate ester.
If you would switch it to acetate or propionate you would have much more of the overall hormone left over all and get more into your system -- regardless of the delivery system you use. The UTA study on 1DHEA used 330mg a day and had no special delivery system at all and got great results with the base hormone and grapefruit extract.
the unfortunate truth is that ALL hormonal products will impact hdl/ldl in a negative manner. no way around this.To be perfectly honest, there is no 100% sure way to know. Since we've only had 1 single study on one of the DHEA based PHs, a lot of it is going to be speculation based off that and all the other data on nandrolone and it's previous nor-dione and nor-diol precursors. Just like all other AAS, nandrolone has its pros and cons, but you'll just have to wait for the article to come out to read the full breakdown.
Seems like it would just be more efficient to recommend the end user to take more capsules multiple times throughout the day. To me, the longer ester makes it just more of an expensive solution to a problem that might not be there. An ester isn't going to hang around for a long time in the stomach, it's meant for an intramuscular depot to slowly release from the injection site.we utilize long esters, short esters, and no esters whatsoever across various products.
1-AD = long ester
1-Test = no ester
quite a few feature the acetate ester.
The esters used in each formula are utilized to impact the specific purpose of that product. For example, 1-AD utilizes the long ester as its more designed for a cut(where all day anabolism is more important than large hormonal spikes), while 1-test is more designer for a bulk where spiking hormone levels can benefit gym enhancemnt
Right, but my argument is that the length of the ester doesn't make it break down longer in the digestive tract. However, the longer the ester, the longer it will take to break down when it is injected IM.Actually an ester is to make it more lipophilic
I am not disagreeing with you, I agree. It's not my company however, so it is what it is.Right, but my argument is that the length of the ester doesn't make it break down longer in the digestive tract. However, the longer the ester, the longer it will take to break down when it is injected IM.
Should I send you my CV?I am not disagreeing with you, I agree. It's not my company however, so it is what it is.
This is why you see me suggesting 1-Testosterone(no ester) 10:1 over any other 1-andro product.
i feel stupid asking(doesn't take much to make me feel stupid LOL)...but what is CV?Should I send you my CV?
I'm not sure, as esters are quickly removed by enzymes in the blood.Right, but my argument is that the length of the ester doesn't make it break down longer in the digestive tract. However, the longer the ester, the longer it will take to break down when it is injected IM.
It's called a sarmStill waiting for something to be invented that dosen't effect hairloss or Libido/ED!
Mast/Prov Without the hair loss.
Deca without the deca dick.
Oh and primo without the price tag lol!
Circumcised vasectomy?i feel stupid asking(doesn't take much to make me feel stupid LOL)...but what is CV?
Curriculum vitae aka resumei feel stupid asking(doesn't take much to make me feel stupid LOL)...but what is CV?
LOL you and I agree on many many topics in regards to these prohormones it seemsCurriculum vitae aka resume