Upcoming Cycle....Have Questions

[williamsbuild]

Okay, I have did about 5 cycles already so I know all the game. I have one simple question. Do you think I would be able to 'lean out' while on this stack. I am not super overweight but don't get me wrong I am no lean ripped dude. I am currently 6ft tall 245 lbs with estimated 15-17% bf. I am pretty muscular but really want to just get rid of this damn extra fat.
So this is what the cycle is roughly going to look like.
Superdrol 10/20/20/30....might leave last week to 20, but I have never experienced bad sides before with SD.
Epi 40/40/60/60-Should I do higher epi doses?
Standard pct will consist of Clomid Dpol and Recycle
So my question is, do you think I can achieve 'leaning out' while on this cycle. I mean I have taken sd before and I know no matter what you almost always gain weight because it is so damn good lol but do you think if on a clean good strict diet and with cardio I could achieve looking leaner while gaining more muscle. Thanks for reading and leave any feedback bad or good, will appreciate the help.
Here is what I look like right now

 

[pyrobatt]

Okay, I have did about 5 cycles already so I know all the game. I have one simple question. Do you think I would be able to 'lean out' while on this stack. I am not super overweight but don't get me wrong I am no lean ripped dude. I am currently 6ft tall 245 lbs with estimated 15-17% bf. I am pretty muscular but really want to just get rid of this damn extra fat.
So this is what the cycle is roughly going to look like.
Superdrol 10/20/20/30....might leave last week to 20, but I have never experienced bad sides before with SD.
Epi 40/40/60/60-Should I do higher epi doses?
Standard pct will consist of Clomid Dpol and Recycle
So my question is, do you think I can achieve 'leaning out' while on this cycle. I mean I have taken sd before and I know no matter what you almost always gain weight because it is so damn good lol but do you think if on a clean good strict diet and with cardio I could achieve looking leaner while gaining more muscle. Thanks for reading and leave any feedback bad or good, will appreciate the help.
Here is what I look like right now <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=61004"/>

How old are ya and what's your training history?I can give you advice once you answer.

 

[williamsbuild]

How old are ya and what's your training history?I can give you advice once you answer.

I'm 21 and have been lifting since I was 16 and going hard since I was about 17 and a half. Any advice would be helpful. By the way, I have always responded well to superdrol and epi, no bad sides really just minor ones that almost everyone gets. I understand that superdrol isn't for leaning but I love how potent and well it works so I am pretty adament on running it.

 

[ThunderHumper]

21and5 cycles. You're hella cool

 

[Gerbil]

I cant stop laughing at that pic. Just the facial expression is priceless.

 

[williamsbuild]

21and5 cycles. You're hella cool

Was just asking for some honest opinions, no need to try and troll me. Thanks for pointing out the obvious as I said I was 21. It's my life and not yours, simple as that. If you don't want to help why post?

 

[williamsbuild]

I cant stop laughing at that pic. Just the facial expression is priceless.

Obviously i'm jesus lol, I always laugh at that pic myself. So you aren't the only one.

 

[howwedo107]

Change your cycle to 10mg 6 weeks of SD that will help you recomp much better with a good diet and cardio

 

[Gerbil]

I wouldnt stack epi with superdrol. Also you would be better off dieting down to the low teens bf% using an ECA stack. Then running a cycle with clen or t3 to cut down the rest of the way. thats MHO.

 

[williamsbuild]

Change your cycle to 10mg 6 weeks of SD that will help you recomp much better with a good diet and cardio

Not a bad idea, 6 weeks of low dose sd. Might give this a try.

 

[williamsbuild]

I wouldnt stack epi with superdrol. Also you would be better off dieting down to the low teens bf% using an ECA stack. Then running a cycle with clen or t3 to cut down the rest of the way. thats MHO.

I am thinking about getting black mamba, it has 60 mg of ephedra per pill. And I can never find adequately dosed clen from a research chem site or I would run clen. And I keep getting warned about stacking sd with anything so I believe I am going to shy away from it.

 

[pyrobatt]

I'm 21 and have been lifting since I was 16 and going hard since I was about 17 and a half. Any advice would be helpful. By the way, I have always responded well to superdrol and epi, no bad sides really just minor ones that almost everyone gets. I understand that superdrol isn't for leaning but I love how potent and well it works so I am pretty adament on running it.

You sound like you have been on the juice for a while.Let me first say your you probably closed your growth plates early by jumping on cycle before 21(correct me if I'm wrong about before 21).You will also most likely have fertility issues if you ever want to start a family.If you keep hopping from cycle to cycle your looking at expensive surgerys due to your joints,ligaments and tendons not catching up to your muscle.Any human dosen't ajust to sudden muscle gain well and your heart will probably be screwed in your 50's,you may also screw up your libido on a perm basis.

You also don't look 21 but maybe thats a good thing?

Look up the endocrine system on google.Steroids effect everything from bones,thyroid,regular test value,your heart,and the endocrine system.

Now my preechy side is over I shall give you advice

Not trusting clen from RC means you can't trust SERM's either in my opinion.I do trust my source though.
Heres the cycle I suggest you run:

Epi 5 weeks @ 40mgs if you can.Stack with
Furazadrol(look up clones) @ 150 to even 300 mg's for 7 weeks.Similar to winstrol and liver friendly.
I wouldn't use t3 unless your okay with rebound weight gain.Most of the myths / some info on t3 can be found here in my thread:http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/204947-fighting-my-genetics.html

For you to decide.

You can run clen or eca for 2 weeks on and 2 off if you choose to run them at all.You can also extend your time on clen or eca by using keto which can be read about in my guide here: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/200109-guide-new-outlook.html

Eat at a 500 calorie negitive and do your cardio (not that slow pace bull.If you want fat loss do running or circuits.)and you should be south of 13 %.

I would however cut a little before you cycle
Make sure your pct is a SERM,not an over the counter product.

You can also use ostraine with nolva in pct for added strenght.My test levels are back to normal using this last pct.

Hope I helped!

 

[williamsbuild]

You sound like you have been on the juice for a while.Let me first say your you probably closed your growth plates early by jumping on cycle before 21(correct me if I'm wrong about before 21).You will also most likely have fertility issues if you ever want to start a family.If you keep hopping from cycle to cycle your looking at expensive surgerys due to your joints,ligaments and tendons not catching up to your muscle.Any human dosen't ajust to sudden muscle gain well and your heart will probably be screwed in your 50's,you may also screw up your libido on a perm basis.

You also don't look 21 but maybe thats a good thing?

Look up the endocrine system on google.Steroids effect everything from bones,thyroid,regular test value,your heart,and the endocrine system.

Now my preechy side is over I shall give you advice

Not trusting clen from RC means you can't trust SERM's either in my opinion.I do trust my source though.
Heres the cycle I suggest you run:

Epi 5 weeks @ 40mgs if you can.Stack with
Furazadrol(look up clones) @ 150 to even 300 mg's for 7 weeks.Similar to winstrol and liver friendly.
I wouldn't use t3 unless your okay with rebound weight gain.Most of the myths / some info on t3 can be found here in my thread:

For you to decide.

You can run clen or eca for 2 weeks on and 2 off if you choose to run them at all.You can also extend your time on clen or eca by using keto which can be read about in my guide here

Eat at a 500 calorie negitive and do your cardio (not that slow pace bull.If you want fat loss do running or circuits.)and you should be south of 13 %.

I would however cut a little before you cycle
Make sure your pct is a SERM,not an over the counter product.

You can also use ostraine with nolva in pct for added strenght.My test levels are back to normal using this last pct.

Hope I helped!

Thanks for the reply and the good information instead of just saying I am a dumbass for using ph's before I was 21. You mentioned things about the joints tendons and ligaments, I have a serious issue with left leg pain that feels like severe nerve pain. Could that be related? If so please elaborate. And as for the suggestions on a cycle I would love to do clen or t3, but I don't have a good research chem site. I know you can't say it publically but maybe you can pm me it. Thanks for all the help.

 

[apoxtle]

look at he top of the page. great products for your research kid.

 

[pyrobatt]

Thanks for the reply and the good information instead of just saying I am a dumbass for using ph's before I was 21. You mentioned things about the joints tendons and ligaments, I have a serious issue with left leg pain that feels like severe nerve pain. Could that be related? If so please elaborate. And as for the suggestions on a cycle I would love to do clen or t3, but I don't have a good research chem site. I know you can't say it publically but maybe you can pm me it. Thanks for all the help.

You train your joints tendons and ligaments just like your muscles.They have to adjust to the torture.Using steroids of any kind makes them fall behind.You get stronger than your joints tendons and ligaments and cause perm damage.Look at pro bodybuilders.They are allways having to go under the knife for back,shoulder,elbow,knee surgery because they gained mass too fast.For this reason I suggest no more than 2 cycles a year.This may give your body time to catch up.

If you ran SD with no SERM(assuming not because you didn't know a good research company) you may have to look into TrT for the remainder of your life.Here's a link explaining the in and out's of pct writen by a board sponsor
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html

This explains how important it is.Here's a quote
"Let's look at the reasons why you need a serm in pct:
HPGA will be suppressed when you take exogenous hormones. The more powerful they are the more you get suppressed. Your body will adjust to the excess and stop making it's own. Unfortunately, when you stop the hormone the body just doesn't start back up. Plus many other things that are suppressed (like estrogen, from non aromatising steroids/PH). What?! How can that be? My ph has no estrogen sides! Okay, let's look at what the body does. To make things simple testosterone is turned into estrogen via and enzyme called aromatase. Body needs estrogen so when you are taking the non aromatising ph the body isn't going to just stop needing estrogen it's gonna try get it. And how? By elevating aromatase and making estrogen receptors more sensitive. Thus your pretty dormant breast tissue estrogen receptors could be turned on full alert. Okay thats about all I will say for now.
What does this SERM do? In simple terms it starts up your balls. Clomid, and the other SERMS, have been shown to increase LH and FSH levels in men. Also, it binds to the estrogen receptor and renders it inactive for the time it's in our system.
"

 

[macsnack]

i have a question for you guys i'm thinking about taking a winstrol, clen and tamoxifen cycle and was gonna take it like this how does it sound?
I'd Begin taking winstrol from week 5th, so this way I will finish taking clen together with winstrol and can begin my post cycle therapy, so i should take the following:
Weeks 1-10 clenbuterol as stated previously (2 weeks on and 2 weeks off, the dosage is increased each 2 weeks, not daily)
Weeks 5-10 winstrol tabs 50 mg daily
Weeks 11-14 tamoxifen (weeks 11,12 40 mg every day, weeks 13,14 20 mg every day)