Transdermal Laxogenin and Epicatechin products?

[chainsaw]

Any company make a product with both of these in it transdermal?

 

[jgntyce]

olympus labs

 

[chainsaw]

olympus labs

I don't believe they have a product that combines both in a single product

 

[jgntyce]

I don't believe they have a product that combines both in a single product

my bad

 

[Matthew1237]

You could try epic TD and the new BPS laxogenin TD - it's on sale right now

 

[infinitepower]

I took blackstone labs laxo recently. Was quite impressed for a natty substance.

 

[iThrow]

There isnt a product that contains both... yet... infact Im not aware of a tansdermal EPI product yet outside of Ep1c, however BPS just released a Laxogenin product!

The best price around at $29.99 for a 30 day supply!

 

[MultiVitamin]

Yep, I don't believe there are any 2-in-1's as far as transdermal. There's some oral's that do tho - I believe Vital Labs Anafuse is one of them

 

[vujade]

We have a deal on Iron Legion Vedius at TGB

 

[IronLegion]

It would be quite challenging to provide a sufficient dose of both in a reasonable amount of carrier.

Obviously I recommend trying Vedius, but BPS Laxacrine is a great intro deal and BPS is also using my favorite transdermal carrier (They're licensing Salvo from us).

 

[Volvo140G]

Yeah! And 20% off!

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-deals/271405-ep1c-unleashed-nutriverse.html

 

[slicer89]

Iv actually been running a couple bottles of this https://www.apex-alchemy.com/collections/frontpage/products/epoch and been making killer gains. Its an epicatechin transdermal product.

 

[GrizzleB]

Iv actually been running a couple bottles of this https://www.apex-alchemy.com/collections/frontpage/products/epoch and been making killer gains. Its an epicatechin transdermal product.

Have you taken any other epi products? Just curious if the TD formula is more effective than the oral versions. Id love to run that product as well as the Uro B product they released.

 

[Young Gotti]

Iconogenin is my go to laxo product, I think it's wonderful....it doesn't have epi in it, but I find epi to not work very well anyway

I'd prefer a stack of iconogenin and vector as both have given me great results on their own, together should be a dream

 

[slicer89]

Have you taken any other epi products? Just curious if the TD formula is more effective than the oral versions. Id love to run that product as well as the Uro B product they released.

I have take other epi products and iv seen better gains out of the one i posted (Apex-Alchemy). Im ordering some of the new **** too. Top notch products.

Iconogenin is my go to laxo product, I think it's wonderful....it doesn't have epi in it, but I find epi to not work very well anyway

I'd prefer a stack of iconogenin and vector as both have given me great results on their own, together should be a dream

This epi works, iv been running it stand-alone and have been seeing mild ph like results. No joke, check it out.

 

[ValiantThor08]

I have take other epi products and iv seen better gains out of the one i posted (Apex-Alchemy). Im ordering some of the new **** too. Top notch products.


This epi works, iv been running it stand-alone and have been seeing mild ph like results. No joke, check it out.

Epoch looks interesting. Cant find any reviews on it. And how absorbable is epicatechin transdermal? Any science to back it other than anecdotal evidence?

 

[slicer89]

Epoch looks interesting. Cant find any reviews on it. And how absorbable is epicatechin transdermal? Any science to back it other than anecdotal evidence?

Its a new line of products, came out roughly two months ago. Thats why you wont find many reviews, but its top notch. Yes they’re are studies, let me find them and ill be back to post

 

[ValiantThor08]

Its a new line of products, came out roughly two months ago. Thats why you wont find many reviews, but its top notch. Yes they’re are studies, let me find them and ill be back to post

Cool thanks. I have an interest in epicatechins, but I know orally it is basically worthless. I know of the studies of where it was injected, and it worked well.

 

[Jstrong20]

Cool thanks. I have an interest in epicatechins, but I know orally it is basically worthless. I know of the studies of where it was injected, and it worked well.

I’m not a believer in most supplements but I did see results from an epi product. lol But who knows it could of been spiked.

 

[max silver]

Evomuse TopMuscle contains both, plus a ton of other interesting actives as well.

 

[slicer89]

Heres all the researsh as promised.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378517305008197

^ Liquid crystals are chemically/structurally similar to liposomes.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1211/jpp.58.5.0004

^ Shows TD viability of EGCG which is an ester of Epicat

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bpb/30/2/30_2_343/_article/-char/ja/

^ There are terpenes in the essential oils in the carrier

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03639040600599889

^ Here they stabilize Epicat in solution by adding different anti-oxidants. Epoch contains the potent anti-oxidant, A-Mangostin. Alpha-Mangostin also has anaboic properties of it's own. (Study for that below) v

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-018-0257-4




http://www.jddtonline.info/index.php/jddt/article/view/508

^ again, phytosomes, liposomes, liquid crystals, all similar chemically/structurally

 

[cheftepesh1]

Iconogenin is my go to laxo product, I think it's wonderful....it doesn't have epi in it, but I find epi to not work very well anyway

I'd prefer a stack of iconogenin and vector as both have given me great results on their own, together should be a dream

For laxo this is the best way to go. I’m don’t usually get anything for laxo but with this version I had decent results.


Use code chef for 25% off

 

[thebigt]

For laxo this is the best way to go. I’m don’t usually get anything for laxo but with this version I had decent results.


Use code chef for 25% off

I 3rd this....anyone have doubts just check out the reviews in review section!!!

 

[barrettv]

Have a look into Adamantine by Hydrapharm. Has both Epi and Lax.

 

[Canuckguy]

I'm using Prototype Nutrition's E-spray right now. It's a transdermal epicatechin product.

 

[GrizzleB]

I'm using Prototype Nutrition's E-spray right now. It's a transdermal epicatechin product.

How do you like it? Id like more feedback on these TD epi products. Apex Alchemy stuff definitely has my attention.

 

[Old Witch]

Epoch looks interesting. Cant find any reviews on it. And how absorbable is epicatechin transdermal? Any science to back it other than anecdotal evidence?

I beta tested it. It’s good. Instant pump everywhere you apply it. Beta batch was sticky. I stacked it on the tail end of a dmz cycle so a week with dmz, a week without, and two weeks with dermastrength, I did not use pct products, I did not lose gains, however that dmz was weak. Also the mint and eucalyptus in it will have a tiger balm effect, similar to icy hot. It goes on cold and then burns. Absolutely must use a shower brush. Stack amazing with Laxogenin, I used 20-30 pumps a day for epoch and four pumps of dermastrength. The dmz was 30mg.

 

[ValiantThor08]

I beta tested it. It’s good. Instant pump everywhere you apply it. Beta batch was sticky. I stacked it on the tail end of a dmz cycle so a week with dmz, a week without, and two weeks with dermastrength, I did not use pct products, I did not lose gains, however that dmz was weak. Also the mint and eucalyptus in it will have a tiger balm effect, similar to icy hot. It goes on cold and then burns. Absolutely must use a shower brush. Stack amazing with Laxogenin, I used 20-30 pumps a day for epoch and four pumps of dermastrength. The dmz was 30mg.

How long would epoch last

 

[Old Witch]

How long would epoch last

Longer than a month at 20 sprays a day.

 

[Canuckguy]

How do you like it? Id like more feedback on these TD epi products. Apex Alchemy stuff definitely has my attention.

I've found it good for losing some fat while maintaining muscle.