Quite a lot of inferencing going on here. Lets assume all the assumptions above are correct do you have any bloodwork to corroborate this? Reads like narrative fallacy to me eg it makes me sleep more so test must have gone up. Fine, but where is the data to evidence this was the actual outcome? More aggression in the gym. I'm assuming youre saying this comes from mechanism of test increase? If so once again where is the data, btw there are in my personal experience more effective sleep aids than test. Perhaps we should label these as test boosters as well on the assumption more sleep = more test?
I keep on coming back to the same point. Lots of assumptions based on 3rd party research and lots of inferences but no solid direct tangible data for the products being repped. Not one rep has posted a single number in this thread. I'm not expecting supra-physiological levels of increase. No one expects that. of a natural test booster.
lol wow. You on a test booster right now bra? You're awfully aggressive. :silly:
I understand where you're coming from. I really do. However, I think your crusade may be slightly misguided. The bloodwork litmus test you keep proposing is based on a reductive premise. It suggests that one
must empirically observe significant increases in t-levels to experience the benefits I alleged.
Due to the fact that all I'm looking for from a test booster is increased energy/well-being/libido/aggressiveness, I don't
need bloodwork to corroborate that which I can unequivocally determine through subjective analysis. I know what I felt.
Some of the effects I noticed may not even have come about via increased T, but perhaps through boosts in dopamine, adaptogenic stress relief and cortisol reduction (Mucuna Pruriens/Ashwagandha/LJ100). Had I claimed that test-boosters directly impact muscle protein synthesis, I'd agree with you, but that's not what I said.
I gave you my subjective assessment of what Test1fy did for me. The inferences I made are largely inarguable if one experiences the same effects I did. There are plenty of other anecdotal accounts that mirror my experience.
So what you're essentially saying is that you need empirical evidence for these anecdotes, or else we're all liars, and that hurts man.
Furthermore, I added enhanced sleep as
one benefit that
I noticed. You've honed in on it as if it were the majority of my post. Perhaps I didn't communicate my point very well, so I'll try to be more concise. The
primary benefits I observed were "feeling awesome, energized, alpha, and frankly, horny". These are
sensations and
feelings. My overarching point was that if one
feels this way, one is more likely to have better workouts, as I did. That's it.
My claim is very simple: Unless you're young and certain your t-levels are in great shape, you
may notice improved energy, well-being, confidence/aggressiveness, and libido. If you experience these sensations, you will likely have better workouts. If you have better workouts, you will experience better muscle growth. Additionally, you
may sleep better, which should further assist your recovery and test production. I say these things because a) I experienced them first hand, and b) there is research behind each and every ingredient in Test1fy. If you'd like me to post the studies, done by, you know, doctors and experts, I'd be happy to...but it sounds like that wouldn't be good enough for you.
Lastly, I find it quite interesting that you believe boron directly boosted your testosterone, but Alphamax, which contains boron, did "nothing". The cognitive dissonance here is somewhat perplexing and kinda lifts the curtain on your agenda.