Perhaps, what did you run deca at? I think many of the problems from tren is that your body can go on a very low deficit and it tends to stop hunger yet you're growing on it. Sides seems to come randomly when you need to feed yourself and as I stated before it doesn't feel like low blood sugar or hunger, it's quite weird. And people also claims that eating much carbs leads to night sweats so which I probably due to more growth. After all tren is the best muscle builder out there, sure you don't gain the most weight but you can be sure it's all muscle and fatloss.
Extreme strength gains. Abiblity to eat and not gain weight. Ragging libidio.
Very true my test and tren were equal doses .
I ran deca at 500mg/week with test at about 600mg/week. I was also running tren on a fairly low carb diet, and ran deca during a bulk. For size, I personally like trest ace over tren, but it's not very dry!
Could be the dosage then. I understand why people prefer other things for size but the thing with tren is that you gain weight with so little calories and it's no water and you loose fat better than any other compound. I think people sometimes don't realize how much they can actually eat on tren without gaining fat but it can be quite hard eating a lot on tren. Dbol blows most things out of the water but you also know it's just that (water) and you'll loose it.
I am still collecting knowledge of how diff esters work. Most ppl dont realise that Test E and Test C are slightly diff in their effects even though they seem almost identical but Test C is a bit stronger and more size than Test E and Test P MG/MG. My knowledge so far only is on a few compounds [mostly Testosterone, nandrolone, boldelone] and tren is not 1 of them. That said taking you can get diff sides from esters with Tren, and maybe Tren E has a more propensity to give sides at even low doses. I usually always run any 19nor at least 50mg more than Test as I have seen that even though "science" has told us that they react to andro receptor diff but it seems that the thought of "run Test at low dose levels and let the more potent steroid to do all the work" is good advise with. The 2 times I have ran Tren was at 300mg/week and 450mg/week. I will always start a Tren cycle with A first then E for the long term. I have noticed that tren e does give me slightly more sides than A at the same MG but A will give me anger and night sweats.
I used to think the same, but done a few runs now with no test at all using either low dose EQ, or trest, instead.
True, but trestolone (injectable) is far far far more anabolic/androgenic than both tren/dbol, and with daily exemestane usage (along with raloxifene and some caber/prami) for control of the wicked methyl-estrogen as well as prolactin it produces, then no worries about water/fat gain. It's intense stuff! Sides were wicked compared to tren! And growth is almost immediate. Some people only do 2 week cycles because of how strong the stuff is and how fast you gain from it.
Yup, deca gave me a lot of water weight personally. NPP is great for lean gains though not as good as tren. Fewer sides though.
I was close to buy hex but ended up getting enthanate. Some people say it's more potent, and it was made for humans which is I guess a bonus. Might be more effective per mg but then you could instead increase let's say ace dosage. I think sides and price is more of a consideration here since it's the same compound.
I Agree that nandrolone is not as beast mode as Tren but as for the water weight I think that is a person by person side. When I was doing my last recomp with deca I was seeing striations in all my MAJOR muscles while I still had a belly.
I'm about to run it in the new year and will be pinning it every day!! Pin to win! lol I just use slin pins and use glutes/delts. Super easy. Plus I'll be pinning peptides several times per day around the navel. Fun times! haha
So I know that you pull the plunger out, and backload the gear into the slin pin but how do you put the plunger back in without squirting at least a little gear out of the slin needle?
I never backload. I draw with the slin pin and then pin with the same needle. 0.2-0.5cc of ace is actually easy and quick to draw. And if you have good quality pins (aka BD Ultrafine) then drawing with the same pin won’t be a problem in terms of dulling the needle.
dude no offense but you are taking the scenic rout of pinning gear. I dont even have the time to draw through a 25g let alone a 29,,,,I'm sorry but the *** on EA is full of sh!t you need to pin as close to the lower muscle fibers as you can
EA is that garbage enhanced athlete telling everyone zero info on safe use of AAS and just influences ppl to buy his overpriced crap
Ah I see. Yeah I've never heard of him or his products.
No offense but many ppl do things that are wrong for many years. I know for a fact that the muscle tissue that needs to be targeted is the lower muscle cells and when you pin your gear in the lower area you get a more steady release of the compound as well as a greater effect on the spot injection area. I use 1 1/2" for delts thighs and traps and only use a 1" for biceps, not because I don't have deep enough biceps but it's creepy enough with a 1'.
You have your way that works for you so I guess stick to it, however spot location growth is even more profound with short esters. Just giving you and ppl reading this info. I might have a diff opinion if I did pin ed but I still think your only getting 85% of what the gear has to offer. Hard choice for me since youre write I can't pin ed
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