Suggestions on dosing and stacking...

[Flblonde77]

Ok, I went to VS and bought PES SHIFT and NOCODRENE. Now, in your honest opinions, should I just start off taking just one, and then incorporate the other later? If so, which is the best one to start with?

As far as taking the supplements, I work out each day around 10am, and I usually like to do fasting cardio in the am, with weights in the evening. I eat right after my cardio workout, and then a snack before weights.

If I were to take any of these in the am, would I need to eat something first? Or can they be taken in a fasted state?

What dosages, timing and advice do you have to get me started? Thanks so much everyone!!

 

[bolt10]

They would be best taken on empty stomach if possible.

Not sure it would matter too much which one you started with first if you choose to go one at a time. I'd probably do Shift first then add Norcodrene later (adding stims for better energy and mood later on in a cut would be my line of thinking).

For Shift either 2 caps upon waking in the AM or you could do one AM and one PM.

For Norcodrene start with one cap upon waking to assess tolerance. Once that is assessed a second dose 5-6 hours later (or around that depending on meal timing). If tolerance is fine you can eventually bump up to 2 caps upon waking and 1 later in the day.

 

[LeanEngineer]

I agree with bolt10. I can't disagree with a pes rep But you will get good results with this stack! I recommend it all the time. Have you used these two product before seperate or no?

 

[kbayne]

Ok, I went to VS and bought PES SHIFT and NOCODRENE. Now, in your honest opinions, should I just start off taking just one, and then incorporate the other later? If so, which is the best one to start with?

As far as taking the supplements, I work out each day around 10am, and I usually like to do fasting cardio in the am, with weights in the evening. I eat right after my cardio workout, and then a snack before weights.

If I were to take any of these in the am, would I need to eat something first? Or can they be taken in a fasted state?

What dosages, timing and advice do you have to get me started? Thanks so much everyone!!

Like Sean said, going go to be best taken in a fasted state away from insulin release.

 

[Flblonde77]

I agree with bolt10. I can't disagree with a pes rep But you will get good results with this stack! I recommend it all the time. Have you used these two product before seperate or no?

No. I have never used them before. Looking forward to giving them a shot.

 

[Flblonde77]

They would be best taken on empty stomach if possible.

Not sure it would matter too much which one you started with first if you choose to go one at a time. I'd probably do Shift first then add Norcodrene later (adding stims for better energy and mood later on in a cut would be my line of thinking).

For Shift either 2 caps upon waking in the AM or you could do one AM and one PM.

For Norcodrene start with one cap upon waking to assess tolerance. Once that is assessed a second dose 5-6 hours later (or around that depending on meal timing). If tolerance is fine you can eventually bump up to 2 caps upon waking and 1 later in the day.

Thank you!!!