What is the best dose pre workout?
Umm..
What?
ARA is best used at 1-2g pre workout, yesWhat is your favorite dose ara, the prework?
It is not recommended to mix Carnitine salts, it has been brought up a few times on AM and apparently you will lose the individual benefits of them.1.5 grams of ARA 1.5 grams LCLT 1.5 grams ALCAR 3-6 grams of GMS
I only use 2gr carnitine tartrate.It is not recommended to mix Carnitine salts, it has been brought up a few times on AM and apparently you will lose the individual benefits of them.
1-1.5g
so 4-6 caps of X-Factor.
I'm genuinely curious about this, particularly given that some products like Evogen's Carnigen actually have multiple types blended. I can't find anything with a quick search; do you know why you'd lose the individual benefits? Is it just a function of insufficient dosing of each?It is not recommended to mix Carnitine salts, it has been brought up a few times on AM and apparently you will lose the individual benefits of them.
I looked quick, this is one study showing negative interaction but I have seen threads going into more depth than thisI'm genuinely curious about this, particularly given that some products like Evogen's Carnigen actually have multiple types blended. I can't find anything with a quick search; do you know why you'd lose the individual benefits? Is it just a function of insufficient dosing of each?
If I find the other examples I will come back hereOriginally Posted by Propionyl-L-carnitine and acetyl-L-carnitine in chronic fatigue syndrome OBJECTIVES: We compared the effects of acetylcarnitine, propionylcarnitine and both compounds on the symptoms of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS). METHODS: In an open, randomized fashion we compared 2 g/d acetyl-L-carnitine, 2 g/d propionyl-L-carnitine, and its combination in 3 groups of 30 CFS patients during 24 weeks. Effects were rated by clinical global impression of change. Secondary endpoints were the Multidimensional Fatigue Inventory, McGill Pain Questionnaire, and the Stroop attention concentration test. Scores were assessed 8 weeks before treatment; at randomization; after 8, 16, and 24 weeks of treatment; and 2 weeks later. RESULTS: Clinical global impression of change after treatment showed considerable improvement in 59% of the patients in the acetylcarnitine group and 63% in the propionylcarnitine group, but less in the acetylcarnitine plus propionylcarnitine group (37%). Acetylcarnitine significantly improved mental fatigue (p =.015) and propionylcarnitine improved general fatigue (p =.004). Attention concentration improved in all groups, whereas pain complaints did not decrease in any group. Two weeks after treatment, worsening of fatigue was experienced by 52%, 50%, and 37% in the acetylcarnitine, propionylcarnitine, and combined group, respectively. In the acetylcarnitine group, but not in the other groups, the changes in plasma carnitine levels correlated with clinical improvement. CONCLUSIONS: Acetylcarnitine and propionylcarnitine showed beneficial effect on fatigue and attention concentration. Less improvement was found by the combined treatment. Acetylcarnitine had main effect on mental fatigue and propionylcarnitine on general fatigue.
^^this^^ been working out for 30 years and 2 weeks in my 2nd cycle of X-Gels, 1 gm of SNC Alcar 500, 500 mg vitamin c and 1.5 scoops of WFR. Did shoulders: military presses, military presses and more military presses with front raises and shoulder shrugs. Finished with preacher curls...Was pumped like crazy. Been lifting since Jim Botin nautilus days and totally believe in ArA...Uncle T1g with 1.5-2g of Alcar and Potassium nitrate....pumps are incredible
bugger, so I guess that means no ALCAR with your Compete?I looked quick, this is one study showing negative interaction but I have seen threads going into more depth than this
If I find the other examples I will come back here
Yes sir, in our study they did 6 caps of X-Factor daily.Studied shown that effective dosage is 1.5 of ara for 50days workout. Or is it consecutive 50 days straight to take 1.5 of ara even on rest day they will take 1.5 of ara?
Almost painful pumps lol1g with 1.5-2g of Alcar and Potassium nitrate....pumps are incredible
Wheres the statistics at
Cooper has posted on it before. Taking multiple forms is not as effective as taking one at a higher dosageI'm genuinely curious about this, particularly given that some products like Evogen's Carnigen actually have multiple types blended. I can't find anything with a quick search; do you know why you'd lose the individual benefits? Is it just a function of insufficient dosing of each?
I believe I saw an actual study on this at ergolog or somewhere a year or two back.Cooper has posted on it before. Taking multiple forms is not as effective as taking one at a higher dosage
I think i read before thar 1,5 was the dosage in animal testYes sir, in our study they did 6 caps of X-Factor daily.
New Study Shows Omega-6 Fat Arachidonic Acid Builds MuscleI think i read before thar 1,5 was the dosage in animal test
Animal Test is one of my fav ArA products.I think i read before thar 1,5 was the dosage in animal test
HUGE stack right there!! I need to give that a whirl myself.1.5g + Magnitropin + King.
^ Pumps like no other
That is the study I have seen. Not sure about ALCAR and LCLT. They may not have the same interaction. Of course, someone with a more intricate knowledge of exactly how they are processed when taken together might be able to extend the results to ALCAR/LCLT.I have only seen studies showing PLCAR should not be mixed with other carnitine forms. Is there proof LCLT and ALCAR taken together are less effective than alone?
Less effective also does not mean ineffective.
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