Inexcusable Dana. You now have a false champion in Machida. That was the worst decision I have seen in MMA. Unbelievable.
Nice spoiler title..Inexcusable Dana. You now have a false champion in Machida. That was the worst decision I have seen in MMA. Unbelievable.
The only worse decision that comes to mind is Alan Belcher or Yoshihiro Akiyama at UFC 100. but I agree this was a horrible call by the judges and I too am upset.Nice spoiler title..
There have been worse decisions..
I thought Hamil vs Bisping was bull****, as was Page vs Forrest.. but it is objective...The only worse decision that comes to mind is Alan Belcher or Yoshihiro Akiyama at UFC 100. but I agree this was a horrible call by the judges and I too am upset.
Yes, he keeps a incredible pace but he does not seem to have the ability to convincingly finish against Kongo and Rothwell other than swarming and smothering! With Kongo/Rothwell, he dominated by taking them down. Kongo has no grond game but got up repeatedly. Rothwell looked like he was getting punched by his little sister and could eat those for another round or two. Cain does have grat work ethic but I thing he'll quickly be destroyed by someone who will stuff his takedowns or take him down and one who has good striking at the same time.As an aside, Cain is damn good. I know Nog gets the Brock/Carwin winner, but I can't wait to see Cain get a shot soon.
I disagree. I think that Rothwell looked battered, beaten and as if his will was being sapped - and this is only after the first round. While the specific point at which the fight was stopped could be labeled "premature," it was more of a cumulative recognition that Rothwell was being handled.Yes, he keeps a incredible pace but he does not seem to have the ability to convincingly finish against Kongo and Rothwell other than swarming and smothering! With Kongo/Rothwell, he dominated by taking them down. Kongo has no grond game but got up repeatedly. Rothwell looked like he was getting punched by his little sister and could eat those for another round or two. Cain does have grat work ethic but I thing he'll quickly be destroyed by someone who will stuff his takedowns or take him down and one who has good striking at the same time.
Apologies. I just figured people would have seen it while it was happening or hacked it immediately. My mistake.Nice spoiler title..
There have been worse decisions..
Well, when the judges blow a fight it reflects poorly on the UFC = Dana White. That is what Dana has to do with it.What's Dana got to do with it?
I think Rothwell had no heart left at the end of round one. He looked like a guy just trying to survive rather than a guy fighting to win.I disagree. I think that Rothwell looked battered, beaten and as if his will was being sapped - and this is only after the first round. While the specific point at which the fight was stopped could be labeled "premature," it was more of a cumulative recognition that Rothwell was being handled.
Dana doesn't control the AC and it doesn't reflect poorly on the UFC, it reflects poorly on the AC.Well, when the judges blow a fight it reflects poorly on the UFC = Dana White. That is what Dana has to do with it.
Like a rag doll being handled by a bulldog!While the specific point at which the fight was stopped could be labeled "premature," it was more of a cumulative recognition that Rothwell was being handled.
gotta disagree on that one. I just watched it again and there's a major punch knocking alan backwards as well as a take down somewhere near the end. I was like oh interesting but not shocked.The only worse decision that comes to mind is Alan Belcher or Yoshihiro Akiyama at UFC 100. but I agree this was a horrible call by the judges and I too am upset.
On the bright side Brock doesn't seem to KO anyone either, and might make for a good fight if that's what it comes down to. Cain could gain a bit more weight and still not wind up a fatty.I cant believe cains punches cant hurt people more than tthey do. when he had him against the fench most could have gotten KO'ed right there. rothwell can take a beating but he was done. he would have gotten taken down again and beat. it was fine with me im glad he won cain is freakin sick but i wish he would reach back for some more power.
too bad it wasnt a 7 round fight.....
I disagree. Thats your opinion, mine is it reflects poorly on the UFC/Dana.Dana doesn't control the AC and it doesn't reflect poorly on the UFC, it reflects poorly on the AC.
Where u been jessep? Did u see Mir's face? Knocked Coture senseless. Broke Heath Herrings orbital bone with one punch! No comparison!On the bright side Brock doesn't seem to KO anyone either, and might make for a good fight if that's what it comes down to. Cain could gain a bit more weight and still not wind up a fatty.
LOL. I was left scratching my head too. I can't say that I'm surprised though. I'm pretty sure Dana went over to Shogun and told him that he won the fight while Lyoto was about to give the in ring post fight interview.I think he was robbed as well, but for all 3 judges to score the fight the same way that leads me to believe there's something about the scoring system that I don't understand.
:haha:I disagree. Thats your opinion, mine is it reflects poorly on the UFC/Dana.
End of story.
I think all reffs make some mistakes. There were fights when people did things against the rules and the refs didn't stop it. For instance Anderson had a fight where he had his fingers wrapped in the gloves of his opponents, I believe it was 3 fights ago, and the ref didn't stop it. The Guida vs Nightmare fight Guida was getting hit by straight up and down elbows and i'm pretty sure thats against the rules.Hi. I was thinking that whatever I'm missing was whatever they talk about judging in japan... that in a championship fight the champ gets the round unless he really loses it with the expectation being that the challenger will try and kill the ****in guy so as to not let the judges get a say. Seems like a good idea but I thought the american system took none of that into account. Anyways, you guys think Dana is overdoing it when he says Mazzagotti has no business ref'ing MMA fights?
And I'm sure Ben R has got aches and pains just like Mir and Herring and I'm sure they needed help off the mat. I'm talking more about the one punch power that made Gonzaga think he was in line at burger king from Carwin. My point is it takes a series of shots from Brock mostly coming from him pinning you first and then doing as we wishes while laying on you. I do remember the herring highlight reel punch but (and it has been a while since I"ve watched the whole fight) I'm thinking that what Cain took from Kongo will be about as hard as he'll get with brock as long as he [cain] stays off his back. I'm not debating his power just maybe the aim and lack of one punch KO.Where u been jessep? Did u see Mir's face? Knocked Coture senseless. Broke Heath Herrings orbital bone with one punch! No comparison!
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That's not easy when you are fighting a guy with a style like Machida.That was a perfect example of why it is important to finish the fight. Don't ever let it go to decision.
Randy the ear cabbage Couture would beg to differ.On the bright side Brock doesn't seem to KO anyone either.
Agreed. Rutten/Randleman was horrible. But Machida/Shogun was really a hit below the belt for me because I am a huge fan of Shogun and literally nobody gave the guy a snowballs chance in hell at beating him, and he did, decisively in fact.Don't forget that aggression and octagon control are also important parameters of the Unified Rules. It's very obvious that Shogun won that aspect of the fight.
Also, if you want to see the worst decision ever on a championship match, check out Bas v Randleman from UFC 20.
Are you refering to the strike to the back of the head in the second round? Hardly seems as impressive as a straight from kongo or carwin.Randy the ear cabbage Couture would beg to differ.
Nah rampage sucked ass in that fight he didnt do anything but get hit, Forrest controlled the entire fight and easily won. Hamill vs Bisping was another BS fight thought but this one was probably the worst decision I have ever seen, Machida won 1 round if he was lucky. Shogun out struck him, controlled the fight, had better aggression, and did more damage.I thought Hamil vs Bisping was bull****, as was Page vs Forrest.. but it is objective...
edit: nevermindAre you refering to the strike to the back of the head in the second round? Hardly seems as impressive as a straight from kongo or carwin.