Raloxifene side effects VS Nolva / Clomid

[Heybros1]

Does Raloxifene have similar side effects to nolva and clomid? I have heard it works wonders with no side effects as apposed to nolva which I just don't believe. Both nolva and clomid make me angry, negative, and irritable within days. I wake up mad. The longer I take either one that rage turns to depression. no fun

 

[hyperCat]

Does Raloxifene have similar side effects to nolva and clomid? I have heard it works wonders with no side effects as apposed to nolva which I just don't believe. Both nolva and clomid make me angry, negative, and irritable within days. I wake up mad. The longer I take either one that rage turns to depression. no fun

Everyone is different but I’ve never had any issues with ralox. Never tried nolva but their are a fair number of ppl who’ve reported side effects like you describe. I don’t recall ever reading about anyone having bad sides from ralox, although I’m sure some probably have. Ralox is very good at gyno prevention and treatment, but not great for restarting natural testosterone production. You may want to consider torem which seems to also have fewer side effects then nolva or clomid, but is better for a restart than ralox.

 

[Heybros1]

I'm not doing a restart I'm just trying to tone down a flare up/swollen gland. I already have some on the way I'm trying it regardless but thought maybe someone may have some experience with it that also got bad side effects from nolva to do a comparison.

 

[The Express 42]

I swear for whatever reason ralox gave me pretty severe chest pain that subsided about two days after I stoppers. I was using legit evista too

 

[Hyde]

Never had any sides from it, but I don’t from Nolva either. Clomid makes me moody/sad and kinda limp-dicked. Does seem to increase my spunk though (if you can bust a nut on it), FWIW.

 

[thebigt]

Everyone is different but I’ve never had any issues with ralox. Never tried nolva but their are a fair number of ppl who’ve reported side effects like you describe. I don’t recall ever reading about anyone having bad sides from ralox, although I’m sure some probably have. Ralox is very good at gyno prevention and treatment, but not great for restarting natural testosterone production. You may want to consider torem which seems to also have fewer side effects then nolva or clomid, but is better for a restart than ralox.

torem was really gaining steam awhile back, but then it seems to have gone off the radar?

 

[jrock645]

torem was really gaining steam awhile back, but then it seems to have gone off the radar?

Hard to find. Not many places have it. I mentioned using it to my doc and it made his eyebrows go up, nothing else did. I think itd be more popular if it was widely available.

 

[Smont]

torem was really gaining steam awhile back, but then it seems to have gone off the radar?

I like it, I think nolva is a little stronger tho. But to the op having the side effects he listed, that could be due to having low testosterone at the time he is on them. Haven't heard of ppl getting those sides from nolva

 

[Hyde]

I like it, I think nolva is a little stronger tho. But to the op having the side effects he listed, that could be due to having low testosterone at the time he is on them. Haven't heard of ppl getting those sides from nolva

Definitely, Nolva at 40mg is stronger than 120mg Torem and less than half the price, and everywhere without being faked. And you can use it for the fastest gyno control.

Torem would be the best choice for longer use since it’s healthier, apparently. Or if money is truly no object.

 

[thebigt]

Definitely, Nolva at 40mg is stronger than 120mg Torem and less than half the price, and everywhere without being faked. And you can use it for the fastest gyno control.

Torem would be the best choice for longer use since it’s healthier, apparently. Or if money is truly no object.

torem was reported to be porn star status as far as erections, libido go, if memory serves me right...this would be a big selling point for an old guy like me, lol!!!

 

[Hyde]

torem was reported to be porn star status as far as erections, libido go, if memory serves me right...this would be a big selling point for an old guy like me, lol!!!

Definitely not, unless what I have had both times was bunk/Nolva. You don’t even notice it.

 

[Smont]

torem was reported to be porn star status as far as erections, libido go, if memory serves me right...this would be a big selling point for an old guy like me, lol!!!

I've noticed zero effects on erections or libido from it

 

[Smont]

Sounds like caber

 

[thebigt]

Sounds like caber

hey, im old...was going by memory, lol.

 

[Renew1]

Hard to find. Not many places have it. I mentioned using it to my doc and it made his eyebrows go up, nothing else did. I think itd be more popular if it was widely available.

Mike carries it:

Toremifene-Citrate – MA Research Chems

maresearchchems.net

 

[jrock645]

Mike carries it:

Toremifene-Citrate – MA Research Chems

maresearchchems.net

yeah he’s probably the only one I know of that for sure has it. Literally none of the steroid suppliers carry it.

 

[Smont]

yeah he’s probably the only one I know of that for sure has it. Literally none of the steroid suppliers carry it.

Pre has it too

 

[Smont]

...

 

[jrock645]

Pre has it too

was referring to torem

 

[Smont]

I like to use nolva over a ai on cycle most of the time. To mimic the effect of 20mg nolva 3x week, I need 50mg of ralox daily. But ralox I can use with stuff that raises prolactin and nolva I can't. I also think ralox is better at "getting rid of gyno" in it's early stages.

Just my opinion based on my experience here. I'm not stating facts

 

[Rad83]

I like to use nolva over a ai on cycle most of the time.

Just curious why ?

 

[Smont]

Just curious why ?

Because it works 10x better for me. You need estrogen to grow, and for health reasons. I also feel way better with my estrogen higher vs mid range or low. nolva keeps the estrogen from binding to breast tissue so I don't grow tits. And there's health risks to using a ai too much or too often

 

[Smont]

If I do need a ai, I choose exemestane, less negetive sides