THETEST,
Bodybuilders have a tendency to try to mix and match drugs and supplements hoping to gain an advantage.
Unfortunately sometimes this is not the best approach as it doesn't always work and it can be difficult to understand why.
Dr. D is advocating an inverse SERM approach for example. While there is nothing wrong with this approach I feel it just isn't necessary.
Using ATD only is very effective at bringing back the HPTA and you can verify this with bloodwork. (I did so after discontinuing the ATD and my test levels were still 796 and LH was ABOVE normal) and this was after only 2 weeks of ATD use.
ATD did kill my sex drive. Since then I've used PCT by AX and I have found it to be just as effective while actually increasing my libido. I know of others that have reported this effect as well. In fact I would say that PCT makes me hypersexual as I have to be careful during bumpy car rides.
Here's a proven protocol:
Pick one ATD or ATD analog.
(If you use stright ATD you will lose your libido during PCT)
Dose at 3 caps daily for 2 weeks
Dose at 2 caps daily for 2 weeks
Either continue taking Retain or (if you have a prescription and a valid medical need) take Remeron at 7.5mg daily.
Remeron is very effective at keeping muscle-mass/weight up PCT.
Get bloodwork in 2 weeks to verify your total test, free test, LH levels and if you can FSH.
Keep training, cut the volume down a little bit and make sure you eat enough!
ATD alone is formidable PCT, but if you are losing mass, RETAIN or Remeron are effective.
One final thought, if you take Remeron, do cardio. Trust me on this, it's highly anti-catabolic and you won't lose muscle and it will keep you from gaining fat. I consistently gain weight post-cycle using remeron and gain strength.