Pre-workout for pumps and stims

[spirall08]

I'd like a PWO for BOTH pumps and stims.
Is vaso-6 the best thing for pumps? (citruline as well but everything has that).
So in trying to find something with BOTH Vaso-6 and caffeine, I came up with 3 options:

-Hypermax Extreme
-Sparta Nutrition Kraken
-Olympus Labs I am Supreme

Thoughts/feedback on these? Open to other suggestions with BOTH pump and stims.

Thanks.

 

[stopstalking]

I’m loving foxus xt with Xgels. Vado 6 would be excellent to add to the mix as well

 

[The Express 42]

Just pick a good pre and add your pump. I used prekaged and I add in SNS VASO6 And now SNS GLYCERPUMP!

 

[The Solution]

Considering Vaso-6 is being removed from a lot of products due to a lawsuit you can go that route if you want.

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ThermoLife has filed a lawsuit against Compound Solutions alleging that Vaso6 is nothing but green tea extract and that its science is fake

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Both are loaded for pumps with Nitrates and Citrulline at a clinical dose
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Both products would be fine to add a standalone Vaso6 (If you prefer) from SNS.

 

[spirall08]

Just pick a good pre and add your pump. I used prekaged and I add in SNS VASO6 And now SNS GLYCERPUMP!

What doses you take and which do you like better? (Taking both plus a PWO will get expensive).

 

[ValiantThor08]

Get Vasoblitz, and if you like exotic stimulants, get the new Ma Supps stim that has DMHA, and combine.

 

[The Solution]

Get Vasoblitz, and if you like exotic stimulants, get the new Ma Supps stim that has DMHA, and combine.

Given the FDA is going after companies with DMHA do you see that product being reformulated? I also saw this article in the Wall Street Journal today

The FDA issues warning letters regarding DMHA and phenibut - Stack3d

The FDA has issued warning letters to over ten different supplement companies regarding products containing DMHA and phenibut.

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[ValiantThor08]

Given the FDA is going after companies with DMHA do you see that product being reformulated? I also saw this article in the Wall Street Journal today

The FDA issues warning letters regarding DMHA and phenibut - Stack3d

The FDA has issued warning letters to over ten different supplement companies regarding products containing DMHA and phenibut.

www.stack3d.com

I see some companies will still hold on to DMHA for now because it isn't yet on that FDA tool you added. Once it is added, I see most if not everyone reformulating. If the FDA does not have it scheduled, it will still be sold through research sites.

 

[ValiantThor08]

MA supps may not need to reformulate as they are claiming to use a real plant extract as their DMHA.

 

[LeanEngineer]

I’m loving foxus xt with Xgels. Vado 6 would be excellent to add to the mix as well

That would be a nice set up. X gels for the muscle pumps and focus xt for the stims.

 

[aaronuconn]

Alternative (way cheaper) option:

SNS caffeine tab + GlycerPump or Vaso-6.

 

[aaronuconn]

Alternative (way cheaper) option:

SNS caffeine tab + GlycerPump or Vaso-6.

 

[aaronuconn]

Alternative (way cheaper) option:

SNS caffeine tab + GlycerPump or Vaso-6.

 

[Resolve10]

Alternative (way cheaper) option:

SNS caffeine tab + GlycerPump or Vaso-6.

If you just wants some caffeine and Vaso-6 this would be the way to go IMO.

Otherwise it’s going to depend on what else you like (or how you respond) to other things in the formulas. For example I am Supreme would be a good option if you want more exotic stims, Hypermax if you want a big caffeine dose, etc.

Anecdotally I have been really enjoying Controlled Labs White Warped and it’s a great value for a straight forward but effective pre-workout. Pumps have surprised me a bit, but if you wanted you could add Vaso-6 to that for a pretty affordable but comprehensive combo.

 

[DEVANS89]

Viagra and coffee

 

[DEVANS89]

Viagra and coffee

 

[spirall08]

Given the FDA is going after companies with DMHA do you see that product being reformulated? I also saw this article in the Wall Street Journal today

The FDA issues warning letters regarding DMHA and phenibut - Stack3d

The FDA has issued warning letters to over ten different supplement companies regarding products containing DMHA and phenibut.

www.stack3d.com

They trying to ban vaso6 and DMHA? On top of already going after DMAA. Damn.

 

[spirall08]

Otherwise it’s going to depend on what else you like (or how you respond) to other things in the formulas. For example I am Supreme would be a good option if you want more exotic stims, Hypermax if you want a big caffeine dose, etc.

Anecdotally I have been really enjoying Controlled Labs White Warped and it’s a great value for a straight forward but effective pre-workout. Pumps have surprised me a bit, but if you wanted you could add Vaso-6 to that for a pretty affordable but comprehensive combo.

Yea I'd like some of the other things a full pwo brings. 1 scoop of Hypermax seems to be pretty similar in caffeine to 1 scoop of White Warped.

Currently using Dust Xtreme (350mg caff, 75mg dmaa). Although I only dose a little more than half a scoop.
Trying to ween down on the stims a little. I think eliminating the DMAA is gonna be a tough transition. Which is why I'm trying to keep the other stims relatively high at first.

 

[John Smeton]

EcY stack with agmatine

Millennium Sports has Ragnorok Elite , which is a quite good pre-workout for good pumps, and energy. I'd do the caffeine version, as there's a caffeine and non caffeine version.

 

[DEVANS89]

They trying to ban vaso6 and DMHA? On top of already going after DMAA. Damn.

Thermolife is trying to get vaso6 banned

 

[Old Witch]

Try Vicious Labs The Blood Lord before it’s gone. Discontinued.

 

[The Solution]

Yea I'd like some of the other things a full pwo brings. 1 scoop of Hypermax seems to be pretty similar in caffeine to 1 scoop of White Warped.

Currently using Dust Xtreme (350mg caff, 75mg dmaa). Although I only dose a little more than half a scoop.
Trying to ween down on the stims a little. I think eliminating the DMAA is gonna be a tough transition. Which is why I'm trying to keep the other stims relatively high at first.

Which is exactly why FullBlitz would fit the bill
Simple yet effective and there is countless feedback on here to point that out

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