i think there are some stuff out there like core-zap that gives you more focus rather than a rush. Not 100% sure tho that they do not have caffeine though. Hopefully this gave you some direction to look in tho.
zap by Core has 200mg of caffeine per 4 cap serving. That won't be a presupp you
would be interested in using. There is a co. called Trionix and they have a preworkout
supp called Endorphix and this has no caffeine, creatine, or NO you might want to
look up the info on this supplement. Good luck.
just came off a 6-8 run of eca and wanted to take a break from caff and i wanted a kick in the ass in case i get tired from runing " the one" next week
Controlled Labs Blue GEne has a nice nootropic effect, nice joint effects, great strength and hormone effects, and no creatine, arginine/no, or stims of any kind.
I've been drinking 4 scoops of Axcell through the day and 2 scoops intra-wo and I must say, stamina is outstanding. Also, I took 2 weeks off of training for full body recovery, the 1st day back, hit chest super hard, here it is 2 days later and I am not sore at all. It's not even tender in the slightest since.
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