Possible jaundice help

[AaronJP1]

DAMN. I ran Mdrol for 5 weeks and the only side I experienced was I got super huge. (Granted I was on a lot of support supps.... and I do take them year round.)

Tried to tell him he needed those support sups more than anything

 

[bluedevil00]

That there superdol phucked u up...
How long were u on it and at what dose?

How will he fix ur liver?

10/20/20/30 he said it should fix itself in time

 

[AaronJP1]

10/20/20/30 he said it should fix itself in time

Next time only 3 weeks & 20mg on the last week maybe...
What did u tell him u took?

 

[criticalbench]

You will never see clinical jaundice in a photo you self take. Jaundice is a later sign of hepatic damage so I would be very concerned. No way superdrol did that to you. You liver was previously damaged and you hurt it more or you have a chronic issue you are unaware of.

 

[AaronJP1]

You will never see clinical jaundice in a photo you self take. Jaundice is a later sign of hepatic damage so I would be very concerned. No way superdrol did that to you. You liver was previously damaged and you hurt it more or you have a chronic issue you are unaware of.

^ nurse

 

[mattrag]

10/20/20/30 he said it should fix itself in time

The liver is very strong.
Make sure you stop all supps (just for safety sake). I would limit all High Fructose Corn Syrup, artificial sweeteners, high Omega 6 FA foods. and anything fried (high temp cooking in lower quality oils like canola result in trans fat). As I usually never have these things (cept my artificial sweeteners in my pre's and intra's) I feel it will speed up your process as all of these are tough for the liver to process and pretty bad for us in the standard american food supply/consumption.

 

[bluedevil00]

You will never see clinical jaundice in a photo you self take. Jaundice is a later sign of hepatic damage so I would be very concerned. No way superdrol did that to you. You liver was previously damaged and you hurt it more or you have a chronic issue you are unaware of.

That's a pretty bold statement to make..

 

[AaronJP1]

Just as long as u get better man....

 

[bluedevil00]

The liver is very strong.
Make sure you stop all supps (just for safety sake). I would limit all High Fructose Corn Syrup, artificial sweeteners, high Omega 6 FA foods. and anything fried (high temp cooking in lower quality oils like canola result in trans fat). As I usually never have these things (cept my artificial sweeteners in my pre's and intra's) I feel it will speed up your process as all of these are tough for the liver to process and pretty bad for us in the standard american food supply/consumption.

Very true basically what the doc said..

 

[bluedevil00]

Next time only 3 weeks & 20mg on the last week maybe...
What did u tell him u took?

Efff that bro I'm not touching the stuff again..I just brought in everything thing I took before on and post cycle so he could see it.

 

[AaronJP1]

Efff that bro I'm not touching the stuff again..I just brought in everything thing I took before on and post cycle so he could see it.

What did he say about it?
Did he know what it was?
Yeah I'm going to stay away from methyls awhile myself.

I'll mess with OTC sups and the andro series that's about it...

 

[mattrag]

Efff that bro I'm not touching the stuff again..I just brought in everything thing I took before on and post cycle so he could see it.

After an experience like this with this compound I would re evaluate why I need it then and then see if I could use something else to achieve my goals. Good job. My buddy also will never use Sdrol again. Me on the other hand... I have stocked up lol. My buddy prefers Helladrol, or even tren compared to this.
Good luck with recovery. Remember water, fruits (within reason), cooked veggies (low heat), and enough protein and good calories to get your liver back to 100%.
Supposedly every 40 something days our liver can completely rebuild itself (all the cells from 40 days ago will be re built). So at most you have a nice stretch of 40 days to recover . Not long at all if you ask me.

Also, good choice in running Torem PCT. Torem, as I understand it, is the least liver toxic of the SERMs most commonly used in PCT.

 

[mattrag]

What did he say about it?
Did he know what it was?
Yeah I'm going to stay away from methyls awhile myself.

I'll mess with OTC sups and the andro series that's about it...

yea take this route bros

Though im not 100% convinced the andro series is worth the price, it definitely offers more manageable sides and easier recovery. The claims are REALLY bold. I would think AM over 8 weeks would give me something like 10lbs. No 8-12 over 4 weeks. Just saying. hehe.

 

[AaronJP1]

yea take this route bros

Though im not 100% convinced the andro series is worth the price, it definitely offers more manageable sides and easier recovery. The claims are REALLY bold. I would think AM over 8 weeks would give me something like 10lbs. No 8-12 over 4 weeks. Just saying. hehe.

Yeah that's about what I got so far is roughly 10 pounds & I have about 2.5 weeks left.
Price to sides it's worth it. U got to remember I purchased 4 bottles sealed of v2 for under $320 shipped
Strength has seen a huge jump, like things r super light now...

 

[bluedevil00]

What did he say about it?
Did he know what it was?
Yeah I'm going to stay away from methyls awhile myself.

I'll mess with OTC sups and the andro series that's about it...

Yea he was familiar with it, he said he's seen a few people in from it before..he is a GI specialist so he deals with this sort of thing often.

 

[bluedevil00]

After an experience like this with this compound I would re evaluate why I need it then and then see if I could use something else to achieve my goals. Good job. My buddy also will never use Sdrol again. Me on the other hand... I have stocked up lol. My buddy prefers Helladrol, or even tren compared to this.
Good luck with recovery. Remember water, fruits (within reason), cooked veggies (low heat), and enough protein and good calories to get your liver back to 100%.
Supposedly every 40 something days our liver can completely rebuild itself (all the cells from 40 days ago will be re built). So at most you have a nice stretch of 40 days to recover . Not long at all if you ask me.

Also, good choice in running Torem PCT. Torem, as I understand it, is the least liver toxic of the SERMs most commonly used in PCT.

Yea honestly sticking with anabeta after this...I lost my gains and more it really sucks, not to mention how much I spent on proper pct and support I could have bought months worth of anabeta. Honestly I just got greedy and wanted to see gains faster then what I was seeing even though I was making great progress. Hearing people putting on 20lbs was enough to make me take the plunge. Lesson learned though. Natural only from here on out.

 

[ManBeast]

Good to see you are on your way to recovery.

ManBeast

 

[mattrag]

Yea honestly sticking with anabeta after this...I lost my gains and more it really sucks, not to mention how much I spent on proper pct and support I could have bought months worth of anabeta. Honestly I just got greedy and wanted to see gains faster then what I was seeing even though I was making great progress. Hearing people putting on 20lbs was enough to make me take the plunge. Lesson learned though. Natural only from here on out.

You'd be surprised on what you can accomplish my friend

Good luck!

 

[AaronJP1]

U know Bluedevil what did u feel AnaBeta did for u?
U seem to love it, and I won't buy a bottle until I'm sure WTF it is...

Is it a test booster, nutrient partioner?

WTF is it? Another reason I'm on the fence is because I wanna know if I can use it with recompadrol?

 

[ManBeast]

Anabeta is a natural anabolic.

ManBeast

 

[bluedevil00]

U know Bluedevil what did u feel AnaBeta did for u?
U seem to love it, and I won't buy a bottle until I'm sure WTF it is...

Is it a test booster, nutrient partioner?

WTF is it? Another reason I'm on the fence is because I wanna know if I can use it with recompadrol?

Pm nattydisaster he can give you the run down or www.pescience.com

It's pretty hard to describe bro you gotta try it for yourself. Best of all NO SIDE EFFECTS

 

[T-Bone]

Hey guys gonna see the doc for more blood work again tomorrow. So far they are saying acute drug enduced hepatitis. My bilirubin levels were between 12 and 13 waiting for the rest of the #s and results of the ultrasound. Itching is intense, skin is yellow but over all I think im improving. Doc said no more supplements what so ever. So just a strict diet lots of rest and lots of fluid. Thanks for the concern guys

Sounds like the exact same thing that happened to me. However I was diagnoses with drug induced cholostasis.

 

[AaronJP1]

Sounds like the exact same thing that happened to me. However I was diagnoses with drug induced cholostasis.

Whats the difference?
U healed up just fine?

 

[T-Bone]

Whats the difference?
U healed up just fine?

Yeah I healed up just fine but it took forever and there were times people didn't think I would make it. The OP's biliruben levels got up to 13. Mine kept going up and up and didn't stabilize for several months. Eventually they stabilized in the high 50's. Normal reference range is 0.1-1.4. My HDL was "too low to get a reading" and LDL was off the charts. I was as yellow as bart simpson. Also lost all desire to eat. Started off around 230-240 pounds and when I left the hospital I was barely 180 and could barely stand. I was itchy 24/7 from head to toe. I had huge scratches and cuts all over from scratching. The nurses actually taped gloves on my hands at one point. This constant itching kept me awake too so I never got much sleep, just in and out of consciousness for say 15 minutes at a time. The only way I could relax was to take a cold shower. I would put it on cold full blast, cold enough so it would numb my skin and I couldn't feel it. Of course this only lasted as long as it took my body to warm up again. If I couldn't take a shower I would just put my feet in an ice water bath and lay back on the bed and sleep for a little bit like that.


Ahhh Memories!. This happened in August 2005, Katrina was making landfall when I was first admitted to the emergency room.

 

[mattrag]

Yeah I healed up just fine but it took forever and there were times people didn't think I would make it. The OP's biliruben levels got up to 13. Mine kept going up and up and didn't stabilize for several months. Eventually they stabilized in the high 50's. Normal reference range is 0.1-1.4. My HDL was "too low to get a reading" and LDL was off the charts. I was as yellow as bart simpson. Also lost all desire to eat. Started off around 230-240 pounds and when I left the hospital I was barely 180 and could barely stand. I was itchy 24/7 from head to toe. I had huge scratches and cuts all over from scratching. The nurses actually taped gloves on my hands at one point. This constant itching kept me awake too so I never got much sleep, just in and out of consciousness for say 15 minutes at a time. The only way I could relax was to take a cold shower. I would put it on cold full blast, cold enough so it would numb my skin and I couldn't feel it. Of course this only lasted as long as it took my body to warm up again. If I couldn't take a shower I would just put my feet in an ice water bath and lay back on the bed and sleep for a little bit like that.


Ahhh Memories!. This happened in August 2005, Katrina was making landfall when I was first admitted to the emergency room.

wow this sounds horrible... was it after an Sdrol run?

 

[T-Bone]

wow this sounds horrible... was it after an Sdrol run?

Yes Superdrol.

 

[AaronJP1]

Yes Superdrol.

Got a bottle for sale u need some?

 

[mattrag]

Yes Superdrol.

If that happened to me I would never run Sdrol again... Getting back into taking PHs would be rough...

out of curiosity do you do any more cycles?

 

[T-Bone]

If that happened to me I would never run Sdrol again... Getting back into taking PHs would be rough...

out of curiosity do you do any more cycles?

I have tried some very mild stuff yes. Nothing methylated or considered harsh. Not much at all though. Right now I'm running an androhard liqua vade cycle and that might be it for a while. That is unless I see something else mild enough for me to consider. For the most part I stick to natural products now. Last year I ran a Trenazone cycle for 5-6 weeks, can't remember how long it was. My ast/alt were slightly elevated and bilirubin was un-affected. Lipids were in the dumpster so to speak but not nearly as bad as a superdrol(death) cycle.

 

[mattrag]

I have tried some very mild stuff yes. Nothing methylated or considered harsh. Not much at all though. Right now I'm running an androhard liqua vade cycle and that might be it for a while. That is unless I see something else mild enough for me to consider. For the most part I stick to natural products now. Last year I ran a Trenazone cycle for 5-6 weeks, can't remember how long it was. My ast/alt were slightly elevated and bilirubin was un-affected. Lipids were in the dumpster so to speak but not nearly as bad as a superdrol(death) cycle.

I don't even wanna know what my lipids are at now.... Hoping Ursobolic and my pretty good diet is keeping it from reaching critical mass...

 

[bluedevil00]

Yeah I healed up just fine but it took forever and there were times people didn't think I would make it. The OP's biliruben levels got up to 13. Mine kept going up and up and didn't stabilize for several months. Eventually they stabilized in the high 50's. Normal reference range is 0.1-1.4. My HDL was "too low to get a reading" and LDL was off the charts. I was as yellow as bart simpson. Also lost all desire to eat. Started off around 230-240 pounds and when I left the hospital I was barely 180 and could barely stand. I was itchy 24/7 from head to toe. I had huge scratches and cuts all over from scratching. The nurses actually taped gloves on my hands at one point. This constant itching kept me awake too so I never got much sleep, just in and out of consciousness for say 15 minutes at a time. The only way I could relax was to take a cold shower. I would put it on cold full blast, cold enough so it would numb my skin and I couldn't feel it. Of course this only lasted as long as it took my body to warm up again. If I couldn't take a shower I would just put my feet in an ice water bath and lay back on the bed and sleep for a little bit like that.

Ahhh Memories!. This happened in August 2005, Katrina was making landfall when I was first admitted to the emergency room.

God that's horrible bro.. Im having a hard time sleeping too and have itched my feet to blood. I can't even imagine 5x worse than me.

 

[T-Bone]

God that's horrible bro.. Im having a hard time sleeping too and have itched my feet to blood. I can't even imagine 5x worse than me.

Try an ice-water bath for your feet. Its a shock to the system at first but trust me it feels nice. Get a plastic tube and fill it half with ice and half with water but not so much that when you put your feet in you spill it. I used the one I got from the hospital. I saved it. I think you can probably get them at a drugstore though.

 

[T-Bone]

God that's horrible bro.. Im having a hard time sleeping too and have itched my feet to blood. I can't even imagine 5x worse than me.

Yeah at one point I was yelling at the nurses telling them they better give me something for the itching or I would jump out of the window!. No joke. They "cuffed" me to the bed. This was well into it, not sure exactly the time-line but at first they would give me IV benadryl then sometime later, days, weeks, or whatever not sure they wouldn't give me anything. They said there was nothing they could give me that was not metabolized by the liver and I needed to wait to see if I would get better and my liver values would start to go down. My skin even developed a "smell". Wouldn't wish what I went through on my worst enemy.

 

[bluedevil00]

Yeah at one point I was yelling at the nurses telling them they better give me something for the itching or I would jump out of the window!. No joke. They "cuffed" me to the bed. This was well into it, not sure exactly the time-line but at first they would give me IV benadryl then sometime later, days, weeks, or whatever not sure they wouldn't give me anything. They said there was nothing they could give me that was not metabolized by the liver and I needed to wait to see if I would get better and my liver values would start to go down. My skin even developed a "smell". Wouldn't wish what I went through on my worst enemy.

Know any tricks for sleeping? I've gotten about 4 hours in the last 48

 

[T-Bone]

Know any tricks for sleeping? I've gotten about 4 hours in the last 48

Put your feet in an ice bath and lay back and you should be able to get some sleep. Either that or take a super cold shower. No hot water at all, just all cold. Stay in long enough to so your skin is numb. Also you could take a super cold bath. Stand in the tub at first for a few minutes. Then slowly lower yourself into the tub. When you dry off, just pat yourself with the towel instead of brushing yourself with it.

 

[Jonny784]

How's it coming man? Any update? Feeling better?

 

[longhornsp]

How's it coming man? Any update? Feeling better?

This. Hope your feeling better

 

[T-Bone]

He could be back in the hospital or maybe just feeling to shi*tty to do anything.

 

[Jonny784]

He could be back in the hospital or maybe just feeling to shi*tty to do anything.

Yea damn. Hope he's doing ok but just hasn't gotten back on here in a while. I hate these kinds of stories. But it's a good reminder of the possible repercussions of AAS use. He even went about the cycle with proper precautions, but you never know how your body will react especially if you have an underlying sensitivity.
In the words of Dave Chapelle playing Rick James, superdrol is "a hell of a drug."

 

[T-Bone]

Yea damn. Hope he's doing ok but just hasn't gotten back on here in a while. I hate these kinds of stories. But it's a good reminder of the possible repercussions of AAS use. He even went about the cycle with proper precautions, but you never know how your body will react especially if you have an underlying sensitivity.
In the words of Dave Chapelle playing Rick James, superdrol is "a hell of a drug."

Yes I went through the same thing as him, only worse back in 05. I also took all the pre-cautions and "support supps" but if your body is gonna react poorly to a drug or supplement no amount of "support supps" is going to help. If a drug or supplement is hard on your liver, it is hard on your liver. Taking so-called support supplements aren't going to protect you from harm.

 

[GoinHamOnIt]

Damn brothas it's story like these that make me not wanna finish my cycle of mdrol good god currently 12 days in and I feel fine but so did he... Crazy stuff

 

[Cheif]

Damn brothas it's story like these that make me not wanna finish my cycle of mdrol good god currently 12 days in and I feel fine but so did he... Crazy stuff

You'll be fine man.
Make sure you have plenty of support supps.
Especially liver supps.

 

[Diemess]

Damn brothas it's story like these that make me not wanna finish my cycle of mdrol good god currently 12 days in and I feel fine but so did he... Crazy stuff

What makes it worse is that he hasn't made a post or updated us with his condition. Hopefully the guy is alright...I'm sure after this ordeal this is the last place is wants to be at.

Let me go check the webMD forums...haha I kid I kid!

 

[GoinHamOnIt]

Hahaha exactly some scary **** I feel for him but somehow I don't believe he took his support supps like he should and drank enough water I've been pounding that **** just as important as eating like a horse and goin ham on the weights in the gym... Hopefully I don't jinx myself lol... I should started a cycle log but didn't know if I'd have a following enough to bother with it... Hopefully dudes alright... Ima go pound some water now lol..

 

[Ayy]

I'm gunna be extra careful after reading a story like this.

WATERWATERWATER
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[grngoloco]

I'm gunna be extra careful after reading a story like this.

WATERWATERWATER
MILKTHISTLEMILKTHISTLEMILKTHISTLE

Getting labs done during cycle can indicate a possible problem long before symptoms appear

 

[SPS]

I'm gunna be extra careful after reading a story like this.

WATERWATERWATER
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Well since this thread was bumped I will comment, does anyone else think its odd how dark his piss is on the first page? I mean even on something like superdrol if you are putting down one to two gallons of water a day it shouldn't be that dark... That's my experience atleast, I wonder if something could have been wrong with his kidneys too or what

 

[grngoloco]

My piss is significantly darker and smellier on sdrol ... a lot more so than even with tren...

 

[survey]

Very glad I read this. I was going to purchase some super dmz tomorrow. Needless to say, my plans have changed.

 

[survey]

When I was 12 y/o my dad and I joined a gym. We got to be good friends with the owner who was, at that time in his late 40's. He was a power lifter and apparently running a cycle here and there. About 8 years after we joined, we got word that he had died of liver failure. He had been admitted to the hospital and was awaiting a liver transplant when he died. I guess its good to be reminded that this stuff is dangerous and must be taken seriously. Hopefully this guy is ok and we'll here from him soon.