Phera clones

[supermike78]

hey guys I gotta quick question
EST Phera-Vol is: 17a-methyl-etioallochan-2-ene-17-b-ol

Kilo Sports Phera-Mass is: 17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

Its only a slight name difference but are they totally the same thing or not? Cholan vs chan
thanks

 

[TexasLifter89]

dude i answered this yesterday... est has added an extra bulking ingredient

 

[slow-mun]

Its not an extra bulking compound. Phera-Vol is mostly a 2-ene product, but contains a mixture of the 5a/b isomers. Its closer to Ergomax LMG in that regards than Pheraplex. FWIW, I used to be a rep for EST and there have always been a few mistakes or slight inaccuracies in the product write-ups. Nothing that is dangerous to consumers, but things can be confusing at a first glance.

 

[slow-mun]

hey guys I gotta quick question
EST Phera-Vol is: 17a-methyl-etioallochan-2-ene-17-b-ol

Kilo Sports Phera-Mass is: 17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

Its only a slight name difference but are they totally the same thing or not? Cholan vs chan
thanks

They are the same thing, so the choice between the two should be based on cost and brand reputation.

 

[TexasLifter89]

oh i had read somewhere they it was different because they added an extra bulking somewere along the line

 

[slow-mun]

oh i had read somewhere they it was different because they added an extra bulking somewere along the line

If it was by one of their reps, then I'm not suprised. It is untrue, however.

 

[thebigt]

Its not an extra bulking compound. Phera-Vol is mostly a 2-ene product, but contains a mixture of the 5a/b isomers. Its closer to Ergomax LMG in that regards than Pheraplex. FWIW, I used to be a rep for EST and there have always been a few mistakes or slight inaccuracies in the product write-ups. Nothing that is dangerous to consumers, but things can be confusing at a first glance.

how would you rate ergomax lmg v pherplex. i quess what i am asking is if adding the 5a/b isomers makes it better or worse.

 

[ShakesAllDay]

how would you rate ergomax lmg v pherplex. i quess what i am asking is if adding the 5a/b isomers makes it better or worse.

IIRC, ErgoMax was more androgenic.

 

[Usf97j4x4]

how would you rate ergomax lmg v pherplex. i quess what i am asking is if adding the 5a/b isomers makes it better or worse.

Pheraplex > Max LMG

 

[Usf97j4x4]

If it was by one of their reps, then I'm not suprised. It is untrue, however.

I just realized who you are... lol

 

[jsp0882]

how would you rate ergomax lmg v pherplex. i quess what i am asking is if adding the 5a/b isomers makes it better or worse.

I have been told that pheraplex is the only one that is all the 5a isomer which is the better one apparently and the only clone close was sns methyl plex xt which was an 80/20 split

 

[thebigt]

I have been told that pheraplex is the only one that is all the 5a isomer which is the better one apparently and the only clone close was sns methyl plex xt which was an 80/20 split

good info.

 

[supersize77]

I have been told that pheraplex is the only one that is all the 5a isomer which is the better one apparently and the only clone close was sns methyl plex xt which was an 80/20 split

What about p-plex?

 

[TexasLifter89]

What about p-plex?

its cheap and results ive seen in posts are good. so i would say you cant beat it unless you find a cheaper version of phera

 

[jsp0882]

its cheap and results ive seen in posts are good. so i would say you cant beat it unless you find a cheaper version of phera

if u don't have anything on hand why not just go with epistane, havoc, or a superdol knockoff?

 

[TexasLifter89]

its not me haha, im only 18 no need for these.

 

[jsp0882]

its not me haha, im only 18 no need for these.

sorry quoted the wrong person. i meant it towards the guy asking about p plex

 

[supersize77]

sorry quoted the wrong person. i meant it towards the guy asking about p plex

Well, actually...I've got this cough, cough...friend who has plenty p-plex...my question was in regards to the post stating methyl plex was the closest thing to phera-plex...my understanding is p-plex is the closest thing.

 

[jsp0882]

Well, actually...I've got this cough, cough...friend who has plenty p-plex...my question was in regards to the post stating methyl plex was the closest thing to phera-plex...my understanding is p-plex is the closest thing.

whats the ratio of a to b isomers?

 

[supersize77]

whats the ratio of a to b isomers?

Not sure off the top of my head but it's higher than 80%(upper 90's I believe)...I was convinced p-plex was the best out there after reading this thread
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/69759-best-phera-plex-2.html

 

[jsp0882]

Not sure off the top of my head but it's higher than 80%(upper 90's I believe)...I was convinced p-plex was the best out there after reading this thread
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/69759-best-phera-plex-2.html

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=859738

different opinions by everyone. if u can get it cheap try it. if it costs the same as something else u can get u might as well do that. all superdrol clones are the same i think.

 

[slow-mun]

how would you rate ergomax lmg v pherplex. i quess what i am asking is if adding the 5a/b isomers makes it better or worse.

The 5a isomer is the more anabolic of the two with the 5b isomer being the more androgenic. Phera-Vol has more of the 5b isomer. If you're wondering which one I think is the best, then I'd have to say that P-Plex is probably the best version on the market for the next week or so. There's a thread on another forum which validates that assumption. I gave a bottle of P-Plex to a person to run after he used a product that we suspected was bunk. His results were like night and day.

I just realized who you are... lol

Slow-mun AKA Solomon1979 AKA Salemander AKA Salmon AKA Sal AKA Sol. Most people who know me just call me Sol. I also put "The Doctor" as my avatar on just about every forum that I frequent to avoid any confusion.

 

[ams1]

i would say the pplex by CEL. a few friends have takin it. they gained a few pounds of dry lean mass