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hahaha.... I'm prob the newest to competing, but yes, myself and MANY guys on here competeHave any of u competed??
hahaha.... I'm prob the newest to competing, but yes, myself and MANY guys on here competeHave any of u competed??
So ive competed in 3 bb shows and 4 powerlifting meets?? But im the inexp one?hahaha.... I'm prob the newest to competing, but yes, myself and MANY guys on here compete
Guys that compete, squat with all sorts of different bar and stance positions. With benching, some guys tuck more, some don't tuck as much. Dependant on body type and style. Like Herderdude said, there's still right vs wrong. You can't sum things up like that. Having competed so many times yourself, I'm sure you know that.Powerlifters bench mre with triceps and delts by using tuckd elbows and a narower grip , bodybuildrs use mre flared elbow and wider grip,,, powerlifters use a low bar squat and bb use a high bar squat
Ok you wil agre with me when I say lifting the most weight is also a result of manipulating leverage , by tucking your elbow your creating mre leverage , im I nt corect?Guys that compete, squat with all sorts of different bar and stance positions. With benching, some guys tuck more, some don't tuck as much. Dependant on body type. Like Herderdude said, there's still right vs wrong. You can't come things up like that. Having competed so many times yourself, I'm sure you know that.
It's called not destroying your shoulders. Benching parallel is terrible for them, for anybody, even Joe Schmo on Mondays International Chest day.Ok you wil agre with me when I say lifting the most weight is also a result of manipulating leverage , by tucking your elbow your creating mre leverage , im I nt corect?
Watch most bodybuildrs dnt tuck , bcuz you want to use mostly chest ,, and bb dnt go for sheer weight but rather form and contraction to stimulate max growthIt's called not destroying your shoulders. Benching parallel is terrible for them, for anybody, even Joe Schmo on Mondays International Chest day.
You don't have to belly bench and exaggerate a tuck. It can still be a slight tuck, still have your chest engaged, and not kill your shoulders all in one shot. Id rather think long term health.Watch most bodybuildrs dnt tuck , bcuz you want to use mostly chest ,, and bb dnt go for sheer weight but rather form and contraction to stimulate max growth
No its true without health your nthng ,, but u get what im trying to say here?You don't have to belly bench and exaggerate a tuck. It can still be a slight tuck, still have your chest engaged, and not kill your shoulders all in one shot. Id rather think long term health.
Yes. By incorrectly bench pressing, you feel that you're working your pecs better. I'm saying, by correctly bench pressing, you're still working everything out, you don't destroy your shoulders, and you don't look like it's your first day bench pressing lolNo its true without health your nthng ,, but u get what im trying to say here?
Delts are the last thing that you want to use while benching. Lats, triceps, and chest are the primary movers. Grip width is going to be 100% dependent on the size of the lifter with some doing pinky on the outer ring and some doing max legal width. Same with squat stance and bar positioning. You're painting in absolutes with placement and width when it is far from true.Powerlifters bench mre with triceps and delts by using tuckd elbows and a narower grip , bodybuildrs use mre flared elbow and wider grip,,, powerlifters use a low bar squat and bb use a high bar squat
Tucking is a slight misnomer as it's not nearly as prevalent in raw benching as it is in geared benching. Either way it's about health moreso than leverage.Ok you wil agre with me when I say lifting the most weight is also a result of manipulating leverage , by tucking your elbow your creating mre leverage , im I nt corect?
Imma steal this!! Hahahaaka the Wikipedia effect.
600 squat in a belt and wraps, 479 bench in a single ply shirt, 385 raw bench, 562 deadlift. But since I know what kind of contest this is, I'll come forward and admit my penis is very average.Have any of u competed??
I agree with that. Would you say that the weight is lesser for the pump and feel of the targeted muscles and proper TUT as opposed to safety concerns? Perhaps that's too broad of a brush.Powerlifting and bodybuilding obviously have different goals. Many bodybuilders use a good amount of exercise variations that wouldn't be considered proper. A lot of these variations that aren't as safe are also performed with considerably less weight than they would be if done "correctly".
It probably depends on the lifter. I will often do light dumbbell rows to feel it better and isolate the back better after doing something like barbell rows or kroc rows. Safety isn't really the concern but targeting the muscles I want to work is.I agree with that. Would you say that the weight is lesser for the pump and feel of the targeted muscles and proper TUT as opposed to safety concerns? Perhaps that's too broad of a brush.
But you wil have the chest of a 3 year old girlYes. By incorrectly bench pressing, you feel that you're working your pecs better. I'm saying, by correctly bench pressing, you're still working everything out, you don't destroy your shoulders, and you don't look like it's your first day bench pressing lol
Haha lol , our weights are almost the same , squating 500 , deadlift 572 and bench 320 raw but I dnt go for weight anymre just focusing on the muscle600 squat in a belt and wraps, 479 bench in a single ply shirt, 385 raw bench, 562 deadlift. But since I know what kind of contest this is, I'll come forward and admit my penis is very average.
Exactly my point , for bb its about the muscle nt the movement/weight ,, stil loving the kroc rows thoughIt probably depends on the lifter. I will often do light dumbbell rows to feel it better and isolate the back better after doing something like barbell rows or kroc rows. Safety isn't really the concern but targeting the muscles I want to work is.
Because BP is the only option to increase chest mass....But you wil have the chest of a 3 year old girl
Dated article is irrelevant and, again, makes erroneous assumptions on training styles.
Its bad when the 19 year old shows u up ,,haha my man just stop posting and have a shake to get over yourselfBecause BP is the only option to increase chest mass....
Dated article is irrelevant and, again, makes erroneous assumptions on training styles.
Ive stated this already but my point exactlyThis thread is a mess , if all your concerned with is muscle growth then you don't have to bench or squat. Emg analysis shows similar m activation in leg press and squat and highest activation for chest during decline movements. U can get the same results with dare I say hammer strength machines
Once you go past parallel force on the meniscus and joint increase significantly. Unless looking for athletic performance enhancement I don't see the point
I agree with u here , I think form is dependent on goaland a litle dependent on you as individualI have tracked my progress every 6 months since 2011 and I can tell you since I have gone ATG in the last 8 months, I have seen more growth in the 6 month time period. I've seen too many studies and talked to too many bodybuilders not to continue doing ATG. I also have had a knee reconstruction in the last couple years, so I don't believe having a bad knee is an excuse. Do what you will. ATG works. It seems like you guys are just making excuses not to make a proper rep. Then again, what is proper?
If benching doesn't work your chest you probably have some pectoralis major activation issues. If you can get those pecs to fire correctly you will feel it in your chest.But you wil have the chest of a 3 year old girl
My apologies Mr. Louie SimmonsIve stated this already but my point exactly
No ive no problem feling my chest working during a bench, but while we are on the topic , shouldrs I cant feel working that much , I do fel side laterals but db pres and milatery press I dont feel working , any tips on this?If benching doesn't work your chest you probably have some pectoralis major activation issues. If you can get those pecs to fire correctly you will feel it in your chest.
You haven't done a thing besides parrot bro lore over and over. Your problem is that you think that there is zero carryover between the two when there is a ton each way. Feeling a muscle contract is fine and dandy, but that in and of itself doesn't mean a thing.Its bad when the 19 year old shows u up ,,haha my man just stop posting and have a shake to get over yourself
Nah man! This thread is amazing! Keep it going!This thread is a mess...
Wants to dispute proper squat and bench technique and its merits with a guy with a master's in exercise science and one of the top drug free squatters in the world.No ive no problem feling my chest working during a bench, but while we are on the topic , shouldrs I cant feel working that much , I do fel side laterals but db pres and milatery press I dont feel working , any tips on this?
You didn't know that shoulder press is the most difficult lift to master and learn?Wants to dispute proper squat and bench technique and its merits with a guy with a master's in exercise science and one of the top drug free squatters in the world. Wants to ask the internet how to shoulder press. I know that this is impossible for you to realize because you are a child, but doesn't that seem a little off to you?
Im glad you think im great my manOne of the most.... uh...... entertaining threads I have read in a while.
To type it out so the great jaces can understand:
gr8 thred. Wood reed agn.
Nope did not know thisYou didn't know that shoulder press is the most difficult lift to master and learn?
No y?? Just bcuz you change your view on things when someone else tels you your wrong doesnt mean I have toWants to dispute proper squat and bench technique and its merits with a guy with a master's in exercise science and one of the top drug free squatters in the world.
Wants to ask the internet how to shoulder press.
I know that this is impossible for you to realize because you are a child, but doesn't that seem a little off to you?
And I am not taking anything away from rodja , I like these disputes we have as this is a beter way of learning then just agreeing with everything everyone saysWants to dispute proper squat and bench technique and its merits with a guy with a master's in exercise science and one of the top drug free squatters in the world.
Wants to ask the internet how to shoulder press.
I know that this is impossible for you to realize because you are a child, but doesn't that seem a little off to you?
Obvious sarcasm is obvious.Nope did not know this
Weren't you the one throwing around the arrogant claim earlier?No y?? Just bcuz you change your view on things when someone else tels you your wrong doesnt mean I have to
Wich one was this?Obvious sarcasm is obvious.
Weren't you the one throwing around the arrogant claim earlier?
You are just. Narow minded as if your way is optimal for everyone , imo u can never knw it al as smeone can always teach u smthng new , if u go threw life wth this aprouch than your progres wl be limitd to. Your own arogance,, sory if I pisd u of ,,
Ask and ye shall receive.Wich one was this?
Yes and this is true , ive learned a lot talking to you but it doesnt mean ive changed my views,, now I know that a tucked elbow is beter for safety but im stil going to flare mine as this works best for pecs imoAsk and ye shall receive.
Then that's not learning.Yes and this is true , ive learned a lot talking to you but it doesnt mean ive changed my views
Ding! Ding! Ding! What does he win Johnny?Then that's not learning.
This is called not being a sheep ?Then that's not learning.
Yeah....listening to others that are more educated, experienced, and stronger than you makes you a sheep.This is called not being a sheep ?
Just folowing someones advice isYeah....listening to others that are more educated, experienced, and stronger than you makes you a sheep.
Let me put it this way , why dont you follow the advice charles glass gave in the vid?Just folowing someones advice is
When a group of people with more credentials and qualifications tell you that you're wrong, chances are it's true.Just folowing someones advice is
I don't care what he has to say about technique.Let me put it this way , why dont you follow the advice charles glass gave in the vid?
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