Maybe it's all that 'May flower'?Some times I do that myself so often that it flies over my head when someone does it to me.
Maybe it's all that 'May flower'?Some times I do that myself so often that it flies over my head when someone does it to me.
Maybe it's all that 'May flower'?
BPS licensed it from PP as they (pp) discontinued it. Yes, the new one will be same actives, only different carrier and yes it can be used by itself, but dermacrine does require an OTC PCT, as it is slightly suppressive. The Sustain Alpha is to help restore/maintain your natural Testosterone production after/during Dermacrine use. If you don't know about Post Cycle Therapy or testosterone suppression, you should read up on both before using a hormonal product like Dermacrine....mmmm :thinking: . . . is Dermacrine a Promordial Perf products or a BPS products??
I sincerely not understand... and the new improved one (It seems I understand it will be available in July) is BPS labeled or PP labeled ?
and... It cam be used stand alone (followed or with ) SUstain Alpha?
The new one will be only with a different carrier (ingredients a re the same??)
Im confused about the use ofSustain Alpha because of this: ( found in a description of Sustain Alpha)
" Consider Sustain Alpha the natural alternative to Dermacrine. Sustain Alpha can also be used as post cycle therapy (PCT) for pro-hormone products (i.e. Dermacrine) to maximize testosterone production after a cycle.
Well, I don't work for Primordial, but I'd bet they simply meant that it's a way to manipulate your test levels without suppression......I know what OTC PTC means... and what to use or not to use... The confusing thing (not BPS related .) is the SUstain Alpha description . I understand pertfectly and I agree that It can be used as PTC AFTER the Dermacrine. The confusing thing is that it can be used AS ALTERNATIVE to Dermacrine.
This. We are our own company totally different people.BPS licensed it from PP as they (pp) discontinued it. Yes, the new one will be same actives, only different carrier and yes it can be used by itself, but dermacrine does require an OTC PCT, as it is slightly suppressive. The Sustain Alpha is to help restore/maintain your natural Testosterone production after/during Dermacrine use. If you don't know about Post Cycle Therapy or testosterone suppression, you should read up on both before using a hormonal product like Dermacrine.
Exactly, Dermacrine is a mild hormonal product, but still hormonal. Some would like to avoid that route and then sustain alpha would be the closest natural product we offer that compares.Well, I don't work for Primordial, but I'd bet they simply meant that it's a way to manipulate your test levels without suppression.
:drunk:I never, ever, run a cycle without dermacrine. ...never
Still the best estimate I have been given. Will drop more info as it comes.any word when the new formula will be released? mid july is right around the corner...
Knows how to please, lol.Now you talkin like a champ!
No. Primordial Performance designed the new carrier, and we believe it to be one of the most effective carriers on the market atm.Is BPS Dermacrines new carrier same as RS-Transaderm carrier or similar, such as dry fast leaves no residue ?
This and we have nothing to do with that other company.No. Primordial Performance designed the new carrier, and we believe it to be one of the most effective carriers on the market atm.
Its 3-5 pumps per day but dries much faster. Also that other one you speak of is 147 dollars so its not even close to competing with this product. Hell you could by almost 4 bottles of this dermacrine or buy just 1 of theirs.please tell me the amount you need to apply is going to be less than it is now- i love derma but sometimes the amount you have to slather on is just a PIA..the two things i really like about RS is the amount applied and that it lasts more than 24 days per tube..anything you guys can comment on about those two points?
Its 3-5 pumps per day but dries much faster. Also that other one you speak of is 147 dollars so its not even close to competing with this product. Hell you could by almost 4 bottles of this dermacrine or buy just 1 of theirs.
cool..drying was my issue with it, not the amount.Its 3-5 pumps per day but dries much faster. Also that other one you speak of is 147 dollars so its not even close to competing with this product. Hell you could by almost 4 bottles of this dermacrine or buy just 1 of theirs.
No problem at all and I agree with you. Thanks for the support.cool..drying was my issue with it, not the amount.
i dont know how they can justify $147.00..i got some when it first came out and it like $50.00. $147.00 is just insane. i got more out of PP's topical anyway so its a no brainer for me.
thanks for the info!
Working on something good with NPAny update on what the ETA might be?
Awesome news!Working on something good with NP
YEah thats just crazy, I'll be running BPS Dermacrine for sure.Its 3-5 pumps per day but dries much faster. Also that other one you speak of is 147 dollars so its not even close to competing with this product. Hell you could by almost 4 bottles of this dermacrine or buy just 1 of theirs.
Stoked about the news.Working on something good with NP
The reason i never bought derma was because of the lotion/residue sustain alpha left on me. (BPS pick up sustain, fix the carrier and the drying time! Loved me some SA) ill be picking up some derma since its different now.. and im not gonna pay $147 for some transdermCan't wait to see some of the comparisons from the dermacrine fans. Should bee a great improvement.
The carrier that BPS is using is a creation of Primordial. The new carrier is also available on our Sustain Alpha, Dermatherm Target, and intro product AndroEnhance.The reason i never bought derma was because of the lotion/residue sustain alpha left on me. (BPS pick up sustain, fix the carrier and the drying time! Loved me some SA) ill be picking up some derma since its different now.. and im not gonna pay $147 for some transderm
Either way, thats ALL good news!The carrier that BPS is using is a creation of Primordial. The new carrier is also available on our Sustain Alpha, Dermatherm Target, and intro product AndroEnhance.
agreed. bps and primordial are two quality companies.Either way, thats ALL good news!
Snap this is wicked deal times 10 !http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/208276-new-dermacrine-promo.html
^^^ logging opp right there for the new carrier version!
Yep, When I was first told about BPS picking it up, I was very happy. Great company. Great product offerings.Either way, thats ALL good news!
Hereto, why do you call Androenhance an intro product?
Sorry if I hadn't seen that question before, boss.I asked this in another thread, but is a pct needed on this? If so what should be used? Any typical sides users experience?
So something like daa/erase? 4 or 8 weeks?Sorry if I hadn't seen that question before, boss.
In my opinion, I'd recommend a light pct (i.e. a SERM is overkill) for precautionary measures. Dermacrine is VERY mild and users shouldn't experience symptoms like feeling shut-down so long as they follow recommend protocol. Any other questions, feel free to ask.
Precisely. I would say those two would be sufficient for either 4 or 8 weeks. Although, I'd say if you were going to use Dermacrine for an extended period of time (anything longer than 4wks) I would dose Erase (or even FormaSurge with it/toward the end of your run).So something like daa/erase? 4 or 8 weeks?
So this would be good:Precisely. I would say those two would be sufficient for either 4 or 8 weeks. Although, I'd say if you were going to use Dermacrine for an extended period of time (anything longer than 4wks) I would dose Erase (or even FormaSurge with it/toward the end of your run).
I wouldn't stagger the daa+erase, but I've always ran Erase when supplementing DAA (I think I get 'puffy' looking, albeit it may just be in my head).So this would be good:
Weeks 1-4 dermacrine
Weeks 5-6 daa
Weeks 7-12 daa+erase
Weeks 13-14 erase
Or would you not stagger the daa and erase? Would it be productive at all to run other natty boosters like endosurge, activate xtreme, etc with the pct?
Are PP's products going to be available on Nutraplanet again any time soon?All new topicals will release mid-July
-Matt
I have been told it is being looked into, but it might be Nutraplanet no longer stocking the products. Letting them know how much you would like to see PP products in their store might help!Are PP's products going to be available on Nutraplanet again any time soon?
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