Great news boys. Cycle has begun. Will post details in a few. Have to get some work done first.
Ill be following ur log bro and i have a log going as well with the same goodies. Tren , prop, t3! Ill follow ur log bro , what are your specific goals for this cycle? Id like to gain some weight and get ripped but im not to sure how i wanna eat yet. LOL Right now im just keeping it clean!Quick update before class. My glute & delt are sore. There is no redness whatsoever, but it's sore. My ass feels kind of like a girl punched it last night before bed & my shoulder feels like it has a bruise. That's about it. No fever or anything, although I do feel warmer (probably just the T3). In other words, everything is great.
Honestly man, I want to put on around 10lbs or so while leaning up pretty nicely. I figure in order to do this, I need to take in somewhere around 3500-4000kcal/day with protein being my main source. So far I've been keeping it clean. I plan on having 2 cheat meals/week (on Thursdays & Saturdays for football ). What is your diet looking like? Actually, what's the link to your log? Did you homebrew your Test & Tren?Ill be following ur log bro and i have a log going as well with the same goodies. Tren , prop, t3! Ill follow ur log bro , what are your specific goals for this cycle? Id like to gain some weight and get ripped but im not to sure how i wanna eat yet. LOL Right now im just keeping it clean!
Bro, 100mcgs of T3? You're crazy!
Hahaha ive lowered it now to 75mcgs. Bro i was up at around 125mcgs but since everyone "claims" tren will not let you put on fat and is a great cutter im going to lower it to 50-75mcgs most likely maybe even lower and when i add in winnie ill lower it even more.Bro, 100mcgs of T3? You're crazy!
Will it ever get any better? lol. I'm sitting down like an old man here, nice & slow.Tren is speculated to give people the coughing fits if you nick a vein and inject. I've only had it once.. but it was a violent fit. It is quite rare and you shouldn't expect it.
Prop is delayed soreness... in fact, I've never been sore immediately off of any compound.. it's always 1-2 days later and can last up to a week. Some precautions may help, but in the end it is the actual compound in depot that will give you the soreness that you hear about.
What is the ventro? Is that the outside of ur quad?i forget if this was already asked.. but why aren't you pinning Prop/Tren in the same barrel? Even if you have EOD with Prop, and ED with Tren.. or vice-versa, the days that require both compounds to be pinned, you can draw both into the same barrel and pin your Glute/Quad/Ventro with upwards of 4cc's if need be.
Beware of the itchy scalp bro.. It took about 4 weeks for my scalp to start itching. I've heard from Dr. D and the guys at CEM that you can actually wash out the solution (assuming you have spiro 5% solution) after about an hour. That's the absorbtion time of it. So wake up early.. apply it in.. then wash it out so you don't have to deal with the smell all day. then apply again at night. I live so close to work that I (me personally) am thinking of doing it during lunch as well. I am a bit paranoid though.Thanks andros. Anyways, update:
Sides: Today I noticed my scalp was itching just a little. As of right now I'm only using 5% Sprio at night before bed. Instead of applying Spiro twice daily, I think I will throw in a low dose of Finasteride during the day, then hit the Spiro at night before bed. I'm not quite sure if I'm going to do this just yet. I'm going to keep running the Spiro 1x/day at least through tomorrow to see how the itching does. Libido is just about the same if not slightly higher. I found myself getting random wood today throughout the day & while in class, so I'm guessing everything is still ok down there. That's pretty much it. Tomorrow is my favorite lifting day, so update will be much better.
Tonight I'm pinning Prop in left glute & Tren in left lat. We'll see how that goes.
I was looking into this. I always knew you could hit larger muscles with more cc's, but I haven't done it yet. I guess I wanted to see how the pinning would go first before getting into more detail. I think I will just start doing this from now on because I'm turning into a pin cushion & running out of pin spots. Are glutes/quads/ventros the only sites that can hold 4ccs? Right now I'm pinning about 1 1/2 ml of Test Prop & .45 ml of Tren Ace. Would I be ok hitting delts with this much oil? I'm very hesitant to hit quads & I probably won't.i forget if this was already asked.. but why aren't you pinning Prop/Tren in the same barrel? Even if you have EOD with Prop, and ED with Tren.. or vice-versa, the days that require both compounds to be pinned, you can draw both into the same barrel and pin your Glute/Quad/Ventro with upwards of 4cc's if need be.
The ventro is basically your hip. It is located right under your waist on the side of your leg.What is the ventro? Is that the outside of ur quad?
I would apply Spiro 2x a day, but the thing is during the day, I swear like a maniac walking around campus, so putting it on it would come right off unless I woke up early enough to put it on. In either case, I am going to start dosing Finasteride tonight & keep running with the Sprio. If the itching stops, I'll do this throughout the cycle. If it continues, I'll double the Spiro & drop the Finasteride, & possibly pick up some more hair products. My Spiro doesn't smell for some reason. I have the wholesalehairproducts one so that isn't really the problem.Beware of the itchy scalp bro.. It took about 4 weeks for my scalp to start itching. I've heard from Dr. D and the guys at CEM that you can actually wash out the solution (assuming you have spiro 5% solution) after about an hour. That's the absorbtion time of it. So wake up early.. apply it in.. then wash it out so you don't have to deal with the smell all day. then apply again at night. I live so close to work that I (me personally) am thinking of doing it during lunch as well. I am a bit paranoid though.
Also BigVrunga swears by emu oil. I haven't had a chance to try it yet but it will be in my next hair stack.
In either case let me know what works for you as I will be doing another Tren/Test cycle and I am curious as to what works for other people to stop hair loss/shedding.
haha... oh yes, I remember the first time with traps too... somehow I thought of Robocop2 and Nuke.I was looking into this. I always knew you could hit larger muscles with more cc's, but I haven't done it yet. I guess I wanted to see how the pinning would go first before getting into more detail. I think I will just start doing this from now on because I'm turning into a pin cushion & running out of pin spots. Are glutes/quads/ventros the only sites that can hold 4ccs? Right now I'm pinning about 1 1/2 ml of Test Prop & .45 ml of Tren Ace. Would I be ok hitting delts with this much oil? I'm very hesitant to hit quads & I probably won't.
Today I pinned my right delt with Tren Ace & split the Prop in my traps. I must say this was an experience.
Glad to hear the itchy scalp has subsided. That was a big fear for me. I still have some shedding going on, but it's normal shedding I believe. Next Cycle I will try to apply it 3 times a day since it's only good for about 4 hours at a time.The itchy scalp hasn't occured much today, but I smeared my head with Spiro last night. I have a feeling maybe the night before it might've rubbed off as I put it on too close to bed time. Another thing is my joints (some of them such as my elbow) are starting to hurt a little. I think I'm going to pick up some joint support supps or simply up the flax oil a tad so lube things up. Besides these minor sides, everything is ship shape.
It's been a week today. I will post up my weight tomorrow & get my BF% checked this Friday hopefully before lifting. I seem to be a little more cut to the eye. We will see.
I'm going to pay a little more attention & see if I notice a difference in lethargy on days I pin both vs. days I only pin Tren. I think the day I pin prop & the day after, I'm fine. Then when the prop is almost out of my system & I only pin tren, I get in trouble. If my hypothesis is correct, I will begin pinning prop ed at a lower dosage to hit the same amount of test/week I'm on now.Hey true , while ur lethargy may be do to the tren as im experiencing some right now as well, i have read a couple logs where it was due to there prop being EOD, even a close buddy of mine had this problem, once he went ED with it tho he was fine. Just a thought.
I'm going to pay a little more attention & see if I notice a difference in lethargy on days I pin both vs. days I only pin Tren. I think the day I pin prop & the day after, I'm fine. Then when the prop is almost out of my system & I only pin tren, I get in trouble. If my hypothesis is correct, I will begin pinning prop ed at a lower dosage to hit the same amount of test/week I'm on now.
Yea im pinning ED and its great. Tren is EOD though.
My right delt was like this yesterday, i hit my shoulders super hard , and i woke up this morning and bam, all gone. Just heat it and give it time. I pinned my left delt last night and was by far my best inject, woke up this morning to minimal pain if any which makes me uber frigin happy as tonight is prop tren in the same barrel! My workouts are finaly kicking ass bro and its a great feeling!Late night update (Genetics is driving me crazy):
I have a lump on my left delt. It isn't red or hot, but it is tender to the touch & very sore. I believe I pined it yesterday with Tren solo? The lump isn't at the pin site, but right below it. My guess is the oil leaked out of the muscle & is in between the muscle tissue & epidermis? I've tried massaging the area but I don't really feel a knot or anything.
Good to hear, bro. You can only go up from here! I followed Ubi's advice & pinned quads for the first time ever. HOLY SH*T!. My right quad (the only 1 I pinned) is extremely sore. It's annoying to walk around. To think I was going to hit legs today. We will see, maybe I'll slide the tampon in & work through it. Damn is it sore!My right delt was like this yesterday, i hit my shoulders super hard , and i woke up this morning and bam, all gone. Just heat it and give it time. I pinned my left delt last night and was by far my best inject, woke up this morning to minimal pain if any which makes me uber frigin happy as tonight is prop tren in the same barrel! My workouts are finaly kicking ass bro and its a great feeling!
LOL bro i had to take gluts outa rotation because i couldnt walk , i was hobblin all over, brought pain so bad to my lower back/ass area that i wanted to cry sometimes, i was like wow im a pussy LOL. My quad hurts a little still but nothing like my glut. How do your traps feel? Im trying to find another spot, how far down is your ventro from ur waistline and can you pin bigger volumes there? I mean my test/tren volume is 2.5 mls.Good to hear, bro. You can only go up from here! I followed Ubi's advice & pinned quads for the first time ever. HOLY SH*T!. My right quad (the only 1 I pinned) is extremely sore. It's annoying to walk around. To think I was going to hit legs today. We will see, maybe I'll slide the tampon in & work through it. Damn is it sore!
if you put your palm on your hip bone, and point your hand down directly to the floor, the area that forms a triangle between your index and middle finger is the ventroglute. It is a dense fleshy zone that sort of forms a dimple if you are on your side and raise your leg laterally. There are a few sites that point it out in somewhat alright detail.. one is for nurses.. I forget the link.. it's been so long.
I forgot to reiterate to X that I refrain from pinning Prop in my quads.
Ubi, I hate you lol. I'm walking around with a limp like a huge douchebag. I'm going to pop 3 Motrin now & go get a heat pad to help this go away. I won't be lifting today seeing as I can barely WALK! lolif you put your palm on your hip bone, and point your hand down directly to the floor, the area that forms a triangle between your index and middle finger is the ventroglute. It is a dense fleshy zone that sort of forms a dimple if you are on your side and raise your leg laterally. There are a few sites that point it out in somewhat alright detail.. one is for nurses.. I forget the link.. it's been so long.
I forgot to reiterate to X that I refrain from pinning Prop in my quads.
That's weird. I've always liked pinning quads. They have been good to me. But then again I also like pinning calves if that tells you anything. I suppose I'm the oddball of the bunch.Ubi, I hate you lol. I'm walking around with a limp like a huge douchebag. I'm going to pop 3 Motrin now & go get a heat pad to help this go away. I won't be lifting today seeing as I can barely WALK! lol
3clipse, Traps were a breeze. I pinned Prop there, do it!
I'm immediately regretting my quad decision, never again. Always stay away from legs.
Ubi, I hate you lol. I'm walking around with a limp like a huge douchebag. I'm going to pop 3 Motrin now & go get a heat pad to help this go away. I won't be lifting today seeing as I can barely WALK! lol
3clipse, Traps were a breeze. I pinned Prop there, do it!
I'm immediately regretting my quad decision, never again. Always stay away from legs.