b5150 i am sorry if you thought was impolite to one of your modertors.i just took time to write a parargraph and he replys with exactly what i went on about not wanting to hear.I do know about gear but not alot.Thats why im here to learn.I'm going to do it no matter what, wouldnt you wanna educate me.I can get gear use it and get big thats not hard.i want to do it the right way and with the right stuff.i also wanna recover from it the way your suppose too.i know the risks i read mick harts laymans guides 1&2 he suggests the dbol but i dont to use that damage to the liver the bloating and acne and other side effects.that when i ran into deca and winstrol and people said it was a good first cycle...that took me here to get the opinons of more experienced users so i have done my reasearch and am ready.I wana talk more with Rodja....again i aplogize if you took my comments the wrong way.
i have a few questions for you
what is the actual substance in "deca"
how long after discontinuation of deca do you start post cycle therapy?
do you know what post cycle therapy is?
does "deca" aromatize?
do you realize we get at least one of these "first cycle recommendation?" threads a day?
what is winstrol a derivative of?
what is deca ****?
how stupid are the people that recommended deca as a standalone cycle to you?
what is your diet like?
what is your goal for the first cycle?
what are you using for estrogen control?
what is your workout routine like?
what kind of supplements do you have to take while on cycle?
what is the proper intramuscular injection routine?
i am not trying to be a **** but you came into this with the wrong attitude. we dont spoon feed anyone, the information is all here in a great number of different threads. you shouldnt really start a cycle until you can answer all of the questions i just asked.
the first cycle most recommended here is testosterone enanthate at 500mgs a week for 12 weeks. Testosterone is cheap, effective, and it doesnt really have any side effects excluding acne and aromatization, which can both be controlled. testicular atrophy is a given but at 12 weeks at 500 mgs it shouldnt be that bad at all.
typically test enan comes in 10ml vials at a concentration of 250mg/ml. you can get one vial for between 20 and 40 dollars. you can inject once or twice a week, most do 2 just for he hell of it but 1 is fine. for instance, one 1ml shot (250mgs) monday and another 1ml shot (another 250mgs) thursday or friday, or just one 2ml shot (500mgs) every monday. it takes 4 weeks to kick in.
again, i wouldnt recommend starting your cycle until you read, in detail, all of the information provided on this forum