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Final Overview Definitely a successful cycle! Here is how I ended up running it: Sten-zine: 2/2/3/3/3 (caps) Trestobol: 5/5/6/6/6 (caps) Formasurge: 3/3/3/3/3 (pumps) Some key points I noted from this cycle: - Put on some good mass - Strength SKYROCKETED - Bonerz galore - CRAZY, sometimes painful, pumps in the gym - Muscles felt full and pumped all the time, even upon waking in the morning - Night sweats occurred a decent amount of the time - Felt lethargic a good deal of the time the last three weeks. My end of cycle stats: Weight: 212lbs (+27) BF: 12.5% (+4%) Unfortunately I don't have body measurements because I broke my tape :( Pics, first thing in the morning: <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89464"/> <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89466"/> <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89467"/> As you can see, I put on a good deal of mass, upped my calories a little too quick which lead to some unwanted fat gain, but hey that happens and I can shed it later. I think upping the trest a little higher might have worked better against the lethargy so that might be something to keep in mind for someone interested in this type of cycle. These products are legit if you're looking to put on some serious size and strength in a relatively short period of time and run something that kicks in quickly. IF definitely has some good products and I'd recommend them to anyone. Also have some great reps, thanks Caz and Tyga for all the assistance along the ride. Also wanna thank everyone else for following along and providing the support, really motivates me to push myself. All-in-all it was a great cycle! I will continue to log PCT and put up final weight, etc for you guys to know how much I've kept. Here is an updated version of my layout: Clomid: 100 first three days, then 75/50/50/25 Forma: 3/3/2/1/1/1 Abliterate Advanced DAA Endosurge Turbo T-Force
Great review mav! YOUSA beast son! You put on some quality mass and stayed pretty lean.
 
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Day 38 (PCT Day 6)
Just checkin in to let you know that all is well boys. Pecker is holdin up fine so far! Smashin out in the gym also!
 
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Just checkin in to let you know that all is well boys. Pecker is holdin up fine so far! Smashin out in the gym also!
LOL that's great haven't heard the word pecker in a long time... LMAO

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Day 43 (PCT Day 11)

It's been a minute, thought I'd leave an update here... So the first couple days off-cycle I dropped a few lbs which appeared to be all H20. Still had the same size but with a much drier look, which was nice. Towards the end of the first week of PCT I noticed the full, always-pumped look I used to have was gone. I miss that pumped look :( haha. Everything downstairs is fully functional so far, it's been a smooth PCT. Don't have the sky-high libido always sprung feeling going on, but just happy I can stand up haha.... Other than that still banging out the weights and keeping the cals HIGH.
 
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Day 43 (PCT Day 11) It's been a minute, thought I'd leave an update here... So the first couple days off-cycle I dropped a few lbs which appeared to be all H20. Still had the same size but with a much drier look, which was nice. Towards the end of the first week of PCT I noticed the full, always-pumped look I used to have was gone. I miss that pumped look :( haha. Everything downstairs is fully functional so far, it's been a smooth PCT. Don't have the sky-high libido always sprung feeling going on, but just happy I can stand up haha.... Other than that still banging out the weights and keeping the cals HIGH.
Loosing that feeling is the worst lol keep them cals high like your doing and you should keep A LOT of those gains!
 
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Loosing that feeling is the worst lol keep them cals high like your doing and you should keep A LOT of those gains!
That's for sure! And definitely you sure kept Almost all of yours i know!
 
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What's your PCT protocol? SERM and DAA?
 
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Here is an updated version of my layout: Clomid: 100 first three days, then 75/50/50/25
Forma: 3/3/2/1/1/1
Abliterate Advanced
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Endosurge Turbo
T-Force
Here ya go BBG
 
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How do u like the x gels?? I'm about to start them in a week..
Im guna butt in here. Xgels are awesome for in cycle occasionally for the muscles that are hard to truly kill. For me lower traps are hard to get sore and last time a couple hours before my workout I dosed 1g of Xgels. Really pumped out and nade for some soreness the next day. Due to uts possible effect on lipids I wouldn't say run it every day on cycle, just for those days you cant spend 1.5 hours trying to ream out a muscle group
 
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How do u like the x gels?? I'm about to start them in a week..
They're doing alright so far, hard to compare since coming off cycle. I've been dosing 1.5g w/o days and none on off days.
 
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Im guna butt in here. Xgels are awesome for in cycle occasionally for the muscles that are hard to truly kill. For me lower traps are hard to get sore and last time a couple hours before my workout I dosed 1g of Xgels. Really pumped out and nade for some soreness the next day. Due to uts possible effect on lipids I wouldn't say run it every day on cycle, just for those days you cant spend 1.5 hours trying to ream out a muscle group
Hmm that's an interesting point. I decided to go with mine post-cycle to help with keeping gains, but that will be a good idea to try in upcoming cycles.
 
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Oh it's pretty good, a couple days in to week 3 now. Nothing too interesting to note. Just trying to hold on to dem gainz.
 
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Oh it's pretty good, a couple days in to week 3 now. Nothing too interesting to note. Just trying to hold on to dem gainz.
Glad to here how much weight you still holding on to with that awesome PCT??
 
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If mav doesn't say all of them, I'm unsub'n.
 
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Day 51 (PCT Day 19)

Well to answer the questions my weight has stayed solid around 203-205 the past week or so. Honestly (and you guys can make your own determination by my end of PCT pics when they come) doesn't look I've lost much muscle mass. More so water and glycogen went with the weight reduction, and I feel a little trimmer too with how my pants are fitting etc which I can give some credit to the Abliterate for. So far I've been able to hold on to my strength as I hit 225x5 on bench again yesterday.. The major downside is downstairs and its REALLY taking some working up to get a stiffie which is no fun. This is what happened around this time period on my halo cycle too, around end of week 2 - week 3 ability to get it up crashed. Hoping as I get to week 4 it starts to return though.
 
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Glad to here your strength and weight are holding .. Just thinking out loud but is it possible your AI is crushing your E too much?? I've notice personally that too low E kills my libido too.. Just a thought..
 
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OMG exactly what I was thinking!!! Would you say it is more so the AI or the clomid crushing it? And thank man!
 
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OMG exactly what I was thinking!!! Would you say it is more so the AI or the clomid crushing it? And thank man!
No problem!! I can't comment on clomid cause it makes me cry like a girl so I use Tamox, but I guess it is possible.. You could lower your dose on both and see if it helps..
 
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No problem!! I can't comment on clomid cause it makes me cry like a girl so I use Tamox, but I guess it is possible.. You could lower your dose on both and see if it helps..
That's what I'll do then, thanks Caz!
 
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What AI or you using?
 

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What are your opinions on accuracy of Formasurge? I feel pump was way off so am drawing it with a oral syringe... 2pumps should equal 1ml...so I been using 1ml twice per day... But I am done with transdermals after this, I feel like the ingredients is not mixing well,,,bunch of crystalized stuff in bottom of bottle kind of like salt
 
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BPS Formasurge is my favorite Form topical right now. I have used it a couple times and it really does wonders. I have noticed if it sits for too long before use, it can clump. I have always shaken the bottle really hard before each use and never had issues with clumping. Give that a shot and see if it works. Also, boiling the bottle in some water can fixer on up too. Just my 2 cents.
 
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What are your opinions on accuracy of Formasurge? I feel pump was way off so am drawing it with a oral syringe... 2pumps should equal 1ml...so I been using 1ml twice per day... But I am done with transdermals after this, I feel like the ingredients is not mixing well,,,bunch of crystalized stuff in bottom of bottle kind of like salt
Honestly haven't had that many problems myself as far as dosing goes. Yes sometimes not much squirts out but then I just squirt a little more. It can tend to clump especially if you've had it for a while... I just make sure to shake it well before using and usually don't run into any problems.

BPS Formasurge is my favorite Form topical right now. I have used it a couple times and it really does wonders. I have noticed if it sits for too long before use, it can clump. I have always shaken the bottle really hard before each use and never had issues with clumping. Give that a shot and see if it works. Also, boiling the bottle in some water can fixer on up too. Just my 2 cents.
Yes I used this stuff on my last cycle as well and it definitely does its job. Yeah exactly sometimes gotta shake it. Never tried the boiling water idea, but sounds good for future reference.
 
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How you feeling now that you lowered your dose? Libido coming back???
 
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How you feeling now that you lowered your dose? Libido coming back???
Ehh it's alright but not much better. If I shake my arms I can hear my elbow joints crack so estro is still low lol. I'm down to 25 clomid and 1 pump of forma, and just considering ditching the forma this last week and maybe going back to 1 pump for a week or 2 after the pct... Was gonna ask your guys advice on this.
 
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Ehh it's alright but not much better. If I shake my arms I can hear my elbow joints crack so estro is still low lol. I'm down to 25 clomid and 1 pump of forma, and just considering ditching the forma this last week and maybe going back to 1 pump for a week or 2 after the pct... Was gonna ask your guys advice on this.
What week of PCT are you in now??
 
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Ehh it's alright but not much better. If I shake my arms I can hear my elbow joints crack so estro is still low lol. I'm down to 25 clomid and 1 pump of forma, and just considering ditching the forma this last week and maybe going back to 1 pump for a week or 2 after the pct... Was gonna ask your guys advice on this.
you can drop the forma for now, add it back in once your done with the clomid. No need for a high dose of formestane, just want to control the estro rebound
 
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What week of PCT are you in now??
About halfway through week 4

you can drop the forma for now, add it back in once your done with the clomid. No need for a high dose of formestane, just want to control the estro rebound
Perfect man, that's what I had in mind doing a pump again for a week or 2 after to prevent rebound, thanks!
 
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Day 60 (PCT Day 28)

Well this is it, last day of official PCT boys. It's been a ride. Estro seems to be in a fair enough range I'm feeling pretty good and no libido problems. I will use a pump of forma a day along with what test boosters I have left for the next week or two... I'll edit the post on the first page for you guys to check out exactly how things ended up for me. To those of you who have followed along, muchos gracias for all of the support and advice!
 
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Though for fun I'd post a little food porn for you guys. Cooked almost 6k cals for worth of grub last night! Here's some of it, pancakes and pasta is gluten free as I'm going to attempt a gluten free diet for a little bit and see if I can reap the benefits.

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Day 60 (PCT Day 28) Well this is it, last day of official PCT boys. It's been a ride. Estro seems to be in a fair enough range I'm feeling pretty good and no libido problems. I will use a pump of forma a day along with what test boosters I have left for the next week or two... I'll edit the post on the first page for you guys to check out exactly how things ended up for me. To those of you who have followed along, muchos gracias for all of the support and advice!
Glad everything came together at the end.. Thank you for a great log!!
 
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Though for fun I'd post a little food porn for you guys. Cooked almost 6k cals for worth of grub last night! Here's some of it, pancakes and pasta is gluten free as I'm going to attempt a gluten free diet for a little bit and see if I can reap the benefits. <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90565"/> <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90566"/> <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90570"/>
That's like 3 days of food for me.. Lol
 
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Though for fun I'd post a little food porn for you guys. Cooked almost 6k cals for worth of grub last night! Here's some of it, pancakes and pasta is gluten free as I'm going to attempt a gluten free diet for a little bit and see if I can reap the benefits. <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90565"/> <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90566"/> <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90570"/>
Looks delicious! Gluten free is expensive lol
 
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Though for fun I'd post a little food porn for you guys. Cooked almost 6k cals for worth of grub last night! Here's some of it, pancakes and pasta is gluten free as I'm going to attempt a gluten free diet for a little bit and see if I can reap the benefits. <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90565"/> <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90566"/> <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90570"/>
Love that shizz !!
 

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