I will eat my words, matt wins the fight, I thought for sure Gracie would take it...
oh well
I ment matt hughes
oh well
I ment matt hughes
It was brutal, just brutal.
I am gutted.
Gracie made 1.3M for this fight.The UFC must have paid him very well. If Gracie wins, then what, would STILL be thought of as one of the most dominate fighters ever, I dont think he would fight on a continuous basis. Since he lost, he has his first defeat in the octagon and has some what tarnished his rep. He's still one of the best, but I will always remember the time Hughes beat his ass. Gracie shouldve stayed away from UFC and continued to fight an occasional easy match over in Pride.
Was he tested??I heard that hughes popped for gear, any body know if there is any truth to this????
Royce is not much older than Hughes, only 7 years so it is not as if it was Helio fighting.
In my mind, the problems lies in that the Gracie's believe that BJJ is all they need to win. This is clearly not the case. Hughes was not needed to prove this, all one had to do was watch Sakurabu.
I don't get the Hughes hate either. He's very no nonsense and people seem to mistake thisfor him being an a-hole.Glad I did'nt pay for that event, that was one of less interesting UFCs I've seen, too many fights over too fast.
It's suprises me how much Hughes hating was going on before the fight on the MMA forums. Many people interpreted Matt's comments about Royce as arrogant, to my eye it was just realistic analysis of where Gracie old school is versus where Militech new school is.
What's not to like about Matt Hughes? Down to earth,hardworking,talented and tough, working on new skills and improving the old and not talking smack about others, I don't get the hate.
Alessio armbaring Sanchez with his own neck would have been cool, overall, IMO, that event was definetly not worth $40.
Royce is only 39, where as Hughes is 32, only 7 years.7 years is a huge difference in competitive sports. Royce is in his forties and it hard to be competitive at that age especially when fighting someone who is in their prime.
GSP will win that fight. GSP was controlling the first fight until Hughes pulled off the slick arm bar. To me its weird how Hughes can be so dominant at times, and then look like sh*t at other times. BJ pretty much dominated him, then Charuto handled him pretty well(lost a split, prob should've won). Styles make fights, and Gracie's style does not match up well with Hughes( I actually thought Gracie had a good chance). When Hughes brings the A game it is tough to handle him. Judging by GSP/Hughes 1, and the progress GSP has made, I think Hughes may be in trouble. One thing Hughes has over all his opponents is strength, not with GSP. GSP is a huge and strong 170.Hopefully Matt Hughes can go kick GSP's ass now again.
Where did you hear that? Miletich Camp using juice!!!!!, no way.(being sarcastic)I heard that hughes popped for gear, any body know if there is any truth to this????
and where did you hear this little tale?I heard that hughes popped for gear, any body know if there is any truth to this????
I hope so, Ive always like GSP and his fighting style. He seems like a real nice guy in his interviews. Since his first meeting with Hughes, I think he's improved a ton, he freaking dismantled Trigg.GSP will win that fight. GSP was controlling the first fight until Hughes pulled off the slick arm bar. To me its weird how Hughes can be so dominant at times, and then look like sh*t at other times. BJ pretty much dominated him, then Charuto handled him pretty well(lost a split, prob should've won). Styles make fights, and Gracie's style does not match up well with Hughes( I actually thought Gracie had a good chance). When Hughes brings the A game it is tough to handle him. Judging by GSP/Hughes 1, and the progress GSP has made, I think Hughes may be in trouble. One thing Hughes has over all his opponents is strength, not with GSP. GSP is a huge and strong 170.
and where did you hear this little tale?
Yeah I suppose the gallant gracie and his 1.3 million dollar check is in no way frugal as opposed to the man who has been consistently fighting for years(Mr. Hughes).It's the suprising sound of Matt's wallet opening, he's a frugal countryboy, one might say cheap, usually the only thing he springs/pops for is the coffee part of a country breakfast.
He meant to say "popped for gear", meaning busted or in trouble for using gear.Pardon my ignorance, but what does "pop for gear" mean? I understand the gear, but the pop?
Pardon my ignorance, but what does "pop for gear" mean? I understand the gear, but the pop?
never heard of such an accusation but perhaps your buddy is 'in the know' or maybe he just thinks he is. if hughes had popped, it would be a little more known. JMO.One of my buddys told me, that is why I am asking!!!!:frustrate
:bruce3:Right, its amazing how retarded people are. Most people I talk to truely believe that Bruce Lee could beat Fedor or any MMA guy. I try to reason with them(which is an obvious mistake) telling them Bruce Lee never had a real fight, weighs 140 pounds, didn't have the training technology, it goes in one ear and out the other. There rebuttal is "Yeah, but you never know, Bruce Lee was a bad ass". At this point, I begin pondering why I'm on this earth, and possibly leaving it. I'd like to apologize for semi starting a Rickson/Bruce Lee conversation.
Nuthugging is justified when your boy beats ass, ala Hughes.I'm know I'm sounding like a serious Hughes nuthugger, but I don't think we've seen the best of him yet.
Oh, I gotta go with hendo on that one. Could go either way, it just seems hendo is a little better at everything then Hughes. Hughes has better ground n pound, but hendo is great at escaping. Could go either way I guess. Now on to Hughes being in Pride open weight, I just can't see who he could beat. Both Nogs, Fedor, Crocop, Barnett, Aleks, Kharitonov, Silva, Shogun, Werdum, it goes on and on, I just don't see him beating any of these guys. Hughes/Bustamante would be good.Pride Open weight, no, but much more competitive than the requisite Japaneses cans they put in.
Welterweight? Henderson_Hughes? I'd take Hughes. He could duck Henderson's punches like Arona did to Silva and shoot,I think he can trade a lot better than most currently realize and he's better on the ground with far better gas.
I'm know I'm sounding like a serious Hughes nuthugger, but I don't think we've seen the best of him yet.
I love watching Henderson's fights. The only guy that has figured out how to submit the guy is Nogueira...and he did so twice. I'd like to see Henderson fight any of the guys mentioned above. And while I'm at it...for some reason I swear I remember recently hearing that Penn is going back down to Lightweight...anybody else hear this?From what I can tell about Dan Henderson, he was the ****, probably still is, but he's coasting now in his weight class that's not as talented as the UFC Welterweight division of Hughes, GSP, Penn, Sherk,Riggs,Sanchez and Diaz.
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