MesomorphThis LGD fatigue is no joke.. Can't get myself motivated. Need a good pre with stims. Any suggestions?
Dust Extreme v2
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OG Jack3d if you can find it.
Or even some HydroxyElite caps.
MesomorphThis LGD fatigue is no joke.. Can't get myself motivated. Need a good pre with stims. Any suggestions?
Hydroxy is good. I'd say at the 2 cap recommended dose, it's stronger than all the PWO's I've tried including the OG Jack3d.Hydroxy... Huh.. Actually not a bad idea to add a fatburner preworkout. Maybe I'll grab some ignit3
Mr. Hyde is decent if you not too caffeine sensitive, it has about 400mg of caffeine.This LGD fatigue is no joke.. Can't get myself motivated. Need a good pre with stims. Any suggestions?
It's not uncommon in the beginning of the cycle for the first few pins. It should subside though.Does one still experience on cycle fatigue while running test e?
Not offended man. My bench is pathetic and it's not from lack of try. Ive hit chest twice a week for a minute now and have switched up routines etc. trying to get it to grow.I'm really trying to put this in a delicate way and not offend.
You have been on *basically* steroids and now if your doing dbol or test e you are doing steroids.
Your bench is beyond horrible. There's really got to be something wrong. Your progress from when you started is flat on chest. I tried to give you some advice but I'm curious, why do you think its stagnated?
Like I really don't know what the answer is but you've got to do something. When ive ran ph/sarm cycles in the past my bench will go up usually like 40lbs or so.Not offended man. My bench is pathetic and it's not from lack of try. Ive hit chest twice a week for a minute now and have switched up routines etc. trying to get it to grow.
I think there are multiple factors.. My shoulder is one of them, the other is that I don't have that good of a mind muscle connection with my pecs. It's weird. I also have bad form that I'm conscious of and actually think about your advice and Brandaddys when I'm under the bench. I also think there is some truth to what you've said last week about doing too much volume.
Like whatever change you do stick with it for like 4-8 weeks so you can really give it time to see if it works.Yeah brother it's been frustrating. I'm going to revamp my approach to training chest. Your right; what I'm doing is clearly not working. I think I'm going to either 1) use dumbbells only for pressing exercises and then test my bench after a couple weeks, or 2) start training chest only once per week.
I had the same problem when I first went back to bench. Instead of bench, go to Twisting DB Press. It'll work your stabilizing muscles and your tri's/chest. Use weight that will have you failing at rep 10. Do 3 sets of 10-12 reps. Trying to push a rep or 2 past failure. It should kickstart some growth but remember to take sufficient breaks during the week.Yeah brother it's been frustrating. I'm going to revamp my approach to training chest. Your right; what I'm doing is clearly not working. I think I'm going to either 1) use dumbbells only for pressing exercises and then test my bench after a couple weeks, or 2) start training chest only once per week.
I wanna get up to 405 by the end of the cycleCongrats on the dead pr man
Hey bro, I normally don't make comments like this on AM, but since you put it out there.... A healthy sense of guilt is not a bad thing, it can guard us, our consciousness kicks in when we go to far. Since you are on a long run, you have a long time (run+PCT=time off) before another run. Maybe you could stick with 1 compound the next time, that might guard the psychological part.I should talk about sides a little and be a little honest with my experience so far cycling. There is a dark side to this sh1t that I'm starting to become aware of, mainly, the addictive/psychological aspect of it. I just ordered some dbol this morning to dose preworkout (pulse) a couple days a week. I'm thinking back to when I started this cycle in June and was a little intimidated to run sup3r-11 and Dermacrine.. Then I extended the cycle and will be running 2 methyls chasing gains. Although I'm comfortable with doing this and feel that I've researched enough and will run it somewhat "safe," I can't help but feel a slight sense of guilt or just an overall bad conscious about it since it is a selfish risk I'm taking, having a toddler and another one on the way. Seems depression, or maybe anxiety come in waives lately. Nothing concerning at all, but I noticed it when I was dosing Epi at 750, especially my 500mg morning dose. There's no change taking the1. I feel also like I'm getting more and more obsessive with my training, diet, measuring my body, looking in the mirror, weighing myself, reading about different compounds & routines, etc. I can see now how a lot of guys who are serious about lifting are never satisfied and view their physique as a constant work in progress... I'm getting like that... And have an ambivalence to the overall emptiness of the entire process, which kind of scares me. I need to make sure I don't turn into a short fused narcissistic prick.
Anyway, I not trying to be a downer but wanted to somehow describe my psychological experience in this log... I've been on for close to 11 weeks now and got a month to go before PCT. Hopefully I stay healthy.
Yeah buddy.. It's easy when your on cycle to think that your gonna have to pct anyway, so why not push the envelope a little more... YoungBodyBuil brought up a good point that I'm probably not on a strong enough test base, which is why I've got the lethargic and depression sides. I'm only dosing Dermacrine at 2 pumps and The1 isn't giving me a stimulating effect like Epi did at 750mgs...Hey bro, I normally don't make comments like this on AM, but since you put it out there.... A healthy sense of guilt is not a bad thing, it can guard us, our consciousness kicks in when we go to far. Since you are on a long run, you have a long time (run+PCT=time off) before another run. Maybe you could stick with 1 compound the next time, that might guard the psychological part.
I had the same thought in the back of my mind. Knowing that LGD just now entered its 2nd clinical test phase made me paranoid. I am not going to run any more SARMS myself. I am going to give andro 1 & EPI a try... Although I know there not problem free, at least I know they have been through clinical studies, so I know what I am getting into.I think I'd also feel much healthier and wouldn't have the worries that I do running SARMS, since we really don't know the long term clinical sides from use like we do with AAS...
My back, legs and traps have seen the most growth. It's hard to tell how much fat I've gained because I definitely started to retain water when I began MK on Friday... I went up 3lbs over the weekend. It's been challenging eating at maintenance kcals since my appetite is through the roof from both the LGD and quitting chew. I'm trimming some kcals off, watching sodium intake, and started taking a baby aspirin to help with the bloating sides from the MK..BTW, how is the recomp going, any solid changes?
They work lol.Day 30. Weight 172. 1hr AM lifting; 15min HISS cardio post workout
Chest & Arms:
Flat DBP: 50x12, 55x10, 50x10, 45x12, 45x12
Flies: 40x12, 40x12
Arms:
Incline Alt Curls: 25x15, 30x10, 35x9, 25x12
Reverse Grp EZ Curls: 55x10, 55x10
Preachers: 75x12, 55x15
Skull Crushers: 75x15, 75x15
Kickbacks: 55x12, 55x12
15mins on elliptical
I woke up unmotivated and decided to do a light workout this morning. I tried to start out doing DB incline presses but felt something pop in my shoulder when I was kicking the weights back to begin the set... I had a wicked cramp the rest of the workout. I think I'm going to have to do barbell presses on incline... It's a little more shoulder friendly for me. I'm still going to tweak my chest routine around until I find something that works. On flat DB presses, I followed the advice Brandinooooo gave about doing twists... I could definitely feel the stabilizer muscles being worked..
Anyway, I gotta admit that it did feel nice to just get in and out of the gym this morning... Those long ass workouts are starting to burn me out. Although, I do look forward to my back days since I'm seeing very noticeable results.. I've always preferred working my back, I just love the feeling of getting a sweet lat pump.
Yes they do sir... Im actually a little sore this morningThey work lol.
Yeah I think that's the Folli.. I started noticing a gradual increase in vascularity a few days into dosing it. I'm definitely putting a lil fat on but fck it man.. I can cut later. My priority has become to get my lifts up and maintain strength through PCT.. I think I'll get leaner in the long run...Looked good dude. More vascular.
I'm just curious, you using a belt and straps on dl?Day 35. Weight 175. 1hr15mins AM weights.
Back & Shoulders:
Deadlifts: 135x8, 185x5, 225x3, 275x1, 315x1, 365x1, 315x3, 315x2, 275x6, 275x6
T-Bar Rows: 90x15, 115x12, 115x12, 115x10
Back Extensions: 3 sets of 20
Seatbelts: 45x10, 45x10, 45x10
BB Shrugs: 135x20, 185x15, 185x15, 185x15
Rear BB Shrugs: 135x20, 135x20, 135x20, 135x15
Face-pulls: 45x15, 45x15, 45x15
DB Lateral Raise: 15x15, 15x15
Plate Raise: 25x12, 25x12
365 went up very clean, which surprised me a little... Last week I really struggled to lock it out. I'm feeling really good repping 275 & 315, which is pretty sweet.
I'm slowly going to start training my shoulders again. Last couple of days I noticed that my right shoulder isn't popping at all.. Maybe the MK is working its magic a little.
No belt no straps.. I do use straps on bb shrugs thoughI'm just curious, you using a belt and straps on dl?
Oh man I understand but just the belt will make it even so much easier. When I started a never used one but on your heavy lifts its amazing.No belt no straps.. I do use straps on bb shrugs though
I can't get into the belt... I've tried but feel less flexible. Also, I lost 70lbs last year and got saggy skin that feels weird when I use a belt. I think not using one is suppose to strengthen your core more.. Particularly the transverse abdominisI'd say anything 80% and under you really don't need a belt. It will just become a crutch you'll have to rely on to hit your numbers. When you do go above 80% and get into the sub 5 rep range, it is really nice to wear a belt just for support and it will slightly aid in performance. Mostly just the support is nice, especially for someone like me who has a very limited amount of experience and has already had 3 back injuries. **** isn't fun. Lol.
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