Health Scare from OL K1ngslayer

[hardtoget]

I have taken MK677 in the past with good success and hardly any side effects but after just 2 days of taking K1ngslayer I almost landed in the hospital. I was splitting up the 6 capsules to 3 capsules 2x/day with large meals. So the day after Thanksgiving I woke up with sharp hunger pains, ate some protein and carbs for breakfast (eggs and oatmeal). Shortly after eating I felt very shaky, my vision was off, couldn’t think clearly, terrible kidney pain in my back. Had a banana after that, felt really good and then came back down with hypoglycemic symptoms once again. I’ve never really had hypoglycemic episodes in the past, but this was just horrible. I keep hydrocortisone on hand because I have issues adapting to stress, it took 15mg of HC to at least feel normal again and I have stopped the K1ngslayer until I speak with my primary care.

I can only think I am dealing with some sub clinical health issue that is endocrine related. I’ve taken multiple ACTH tests only to pass each time and some doctors think it’s all in my head. Let’s just say I will refuse to go to the ER right now with COVID going on and I have to self medicate with HC during times of high stress. I really don’t know if I have an underlying issue or I just had a bad reaction from something with the supplement.

I’ve taken supplements over 12 years now and never reacted like this. Somethings just seems off. Don’t know if anyone else has had a similar reaction to a GH boosting product before.

 

[Afi140]

Never had a negative reaction to kings slayer but definitely stop it until you can get in to see a doctor.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Maybe you had an allergic reaction to the rhizome extract.

 

[hardtoget]

Maybe an allergic reaction is a plausible idea but I've had an allergic reaction to Cipro in the past (itching, swelling throat) and nothing close to this latest experience. This had everything to do with blood sugar regulation, it's either an HPTA issue or its early signs of diabetes is my take. My understanding is IGF-1 decreases blood sugar levels and the pituitary should make more ACTH to send a strong signal to the adrenal glands to make more cortisol to balance out the increase in insulin and balance blood sugar. It's considered a counter-regulatory hormone. I'm no doctor but this should be endocrinology 101.

 

[Jcollis]

You didn’t eat anything to immediately help your BG. Oatmeal is a complex carb and the fat in the eggs slows your digestion even more. Then a banana is a bit faster but you already had a belly full of the oats and eggs. You weren’t close to the hospital, you just didn’t know what you were doing. Next time, sugars! Orange juice, syrup, pancakes, coke, jelly, gummy bears. Put any of that on something made of processed white flour, low fat and eat until you feel amazing. Boom I saved your life.

 

[hardtoget]

If you do sugars and have low cortisol you’ll have nothing to balance out your blood sugar. I realize anti-catabolic is the name of the game but having low cortisol in a hypoglycemic situation will lead to death. It’s a proven fact many who have been on HGH with underlying adrenal insufficiency will die from a crisis without exogenous HC.

 

[BCseacow83]

If you are having these types of issues I would invest in a BG monitor. Did you test your BG during the episode?

Why are you comparing KS to MK-677? MK in all likely hood will raise one's BG.

I have never taken KS but I do know that people all over the net keep describing themselves as "going hypo" when they are simply feeling the effects of strong ghrelin mimetics. I have felt real hypo from slin and I have felt almost an identical feeling from ghrp's. They feel VERY VERY close except one, the actual hypo, is verifiable with a BG monitor. The other, ghrelin "hypo," will not show low BG on a meter but feels pretty much identical.

 

[hardtoget]

Makes sense, I think I will need to invest in a glucose monitor after this episode. It still would be worth investigating with a doctor what happened in this situation. Even the feeling of low blood sugar is pretty horrible, almost like I can’t get enough food in me.

 

[hardtoget]

Found my answer. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14698506/